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Subject: The Time Travel Theory Revisited... once again
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Now, i am not sayin anything in here is fact, but it is certaintly possible the way i see it. From the beginning you know the end. I don't believe Bungie would write this based on an assumption that everyone has read the Fall of Reach book. Maybe they are saying that you will play as a Master Chief coming from the future that already well knows how this battle ends since he was right above the planet when it happened the original time.

Perhaps what happened is in the slipspace warp at the end of Halo 3 legendary, Master Chief is sent back to the attack on Reach. The past Master Chief did not take part in the battle of Reach i think, am i right? So maybe the future Master Chief goes into the battle knowing he would never see the real himself since he is above the planet. So he goes into the battle to try and change the attrocity of the planet being glassed. and the reason no tails or rumors of him battling there are passed with the other stories of John-117 is because anyone who sees the future MC in that battle ends up dying themselves and so does the future MC.

This would mean that the past MC would live and go on to do all the things in the Halo trilogy only to be sent back to Reach in that slipspace and it would repeat over and over again. So the thought is that MC would in fact return, as Microsoft has promised us he would, but with a twist.

And this also means that if this does happen, Master Chief would never again be seen anywhere past the end of Halo 3. So if he should ever return in a game after Reach (that is Halo even still lives after this since Bungie is abandoning it) then the game would either have to be the past MC in a battle BEFORE the fall of reach, or some game in between the events of the stories in the trilogy. No game can be made after the events of Halo 3 and still feature MC if this theory is in fact true.

If any of u have any thing else u would like to disprove this theory with, please feel free to post it. I will see what I can come up with. Thanks.

[Edited on 07.26.2009 2:33 PM PDT]

  • 07.26.2009 2:28 PM PDT

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Can you put some paragraphs in please, then people will atempt to read it.

  • 07.26.2009 2:30 PM PDT
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ya sure, ill go back in and edit it. thanks :)

  • 07.26.2009 2:31 PM PDT
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"...Experience hath shewn, that mankind is more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed." - DoI

i read all of that.
now let me explain why no time travel theory ever makes sense.

shaw-fujikawa drives dont bend time. they only bend space. thats why no one out of the thousands of jumps that happened ever went back in time, time progressed normally. they all arrived at their destinations at easily predictable times. why anyone would think this would be different just because there was an explosion happening at the time of the jump is beyond me.

thanks and have a good day.

  • 07.26.2009 2:38 PM PDT

the game has already been confirmed to be a prequel.

  • 07.26.2009 2:42 PM PDT

ya ya and mabey the arbiter also travels bac in time cos the unsc nd the elites made a time traval device aftar halo 3 and the arbiter helps the cheef out that would be 1337 does nyone agree?

  • 07.26.2009 2:42 PM PDT
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alright. good point man. Ur probably right. lol :D i was not so well informed about their drives used for space travel my bad.

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that was the same as my idea accept i thought the chief and cortana would try to stop the covenant from destroying reach.

  • 07.26.2009 2:46 PM PDT

This would be a good time to point out that the US Government seriously did consider nuking the moon during the Cold War as a show of force. Project A119.

"A large explosion on the Terminator line would put the sun behind the mushroom cloud, making the explosion visible with the naked eye from Earth."

Then the US decided they'd just send in Neil Armstrong to land on it. Neil Armstrong - the one man on the earth that was considered a suitable replacement for a nuclear missile.

What is it about the word "prequel" that people are having such a hard time understanding?

  • 07.26.2009 2:49 PM PDT
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what is wrong with u?
THERE IS NO TIME TRAVEL!!!

  • 07.26.2009 2:49 PM PDT

Well look ya your right about the shaw fukijawa drives, but if you have ever read the books you would know that the amount of information they know about slipspace is little to none, so it is possible if bungie wanted it to be, the explosion of the halo very well could placed them back in time, for we have no idea what slipspace combined with the explosion might or might not have done, however it is a risky path to take, going back in time, bungie would have to make up alot of stuff maybe cortana would explain for example its hard and i dont think its like bungie to do something like that. It is possible they could travel back in time but i highly doubt bungie is going to have that happen.

  • 07.26.2009 2:52 PM PDT
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Sorry, didnt mean to report that message. my bad. But also, this technically would be a prequel guys. The events would technically be happening in a TIME before Halo 3. think bout that.

  • 07.26.2009 2:52 PM PDT
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Wolverfrog, are u being sarcastic? lol I cant tell?

  • 07.26.2009 2:54 PM PDT
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im gonna go back in time ans stop u from writing all these -blam!- paragraphs about something this retarded

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My god, everyone calm down hahaha. I was just saying that as of right now we cannot say anything for sure. To be honest, I do not think that they should do this time travel idea because it could piss off lots of ppl if they dont do it perfectly correct. It could cause a lot of issues, and just plainly saying, Bungie does not appear to be the type of creators to do that. My point in making this was to show that u can't entirely say that ur positive it will not happen. Not saying it will happen or that it should. So quit being douches lol. :D

  • 07.26.2009 2:57 PM PDT

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ok for easiness i will call future master cheaf the legendary sparten and the one in the past the heroic sparten. ok. so legendary sparten goes back in time to reach (u can clearly see the planet at the end of halo 3) and he crashes onto reach. this is what the coma station says when they say slipspace rupture identificed and also they r making pinpoint transitions into orbital defenses. so master cheaf legendary edition crashes into one of the orbital defense grids and he meets legendary cheaf. here he saves linda and kellys life. and also fred (he clearly has a knife specialty in the novella) from here they go crash into reach surface ('why do you always jump" means he did it before and if hes in the past now that means he would have jumped before halo 3 u see my logic thanks) where they meet the other 300 spartens. but bungie says all the spartens are dead. so the cheaf only witnesses tthe 300 spartens wiped out by 1 million jackels and elites. and mabey grunts too they are cute lol. so then the master cheafs and the last spartens save reach. but only after meeting the arbitor who also comes back in time after halo 3 thats why u see his ship leaving mars where lord hood was (notice the orange sky). and he is the big guy in the banner. kelly is the small one bcuz she is fast and that makes total since even though she looks compleatly different on the cover of ghosts of onyx. also arbitor is the big guy. fred is the guy with the knife becuz they say in the novels all he ever used as a knife. well i think they did. they have one seen in halo second strike where he us messing with his knife. this means he has knife specialty oviously. and then u have linda. awesome sniper. wat more do i need to say. and then right in the center is our green pimp the legendary master cheaf. the past master cheaf died with his 300 spartens. please post ur thoughts on this innovative theroy. thanks!

  • 07.26.2009 3:17 PM PDT

Armor Lock isn't overpowered. You just suck at Reach :)

Reach isn't bad, you're just a BK :)

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Time travel theory is stupid.

  • 07.26.2009 3:21 PM PDT

yea, that makes sense. also there cud be a mythic edision mastur cheef who brings the past 1 back 2 life at the end, and then it cud turn out it is captan keys in disgise as a sparten so the flood wudnt notice he wus still alive cos u see after you punch keys skull in halo 1 the flood part of him grows a new one and then he rips out of the flood bag and gos threw a portal wich takes him back to reach, the portal which mastur cheef activates when he blew up halo) so do you see wat i mean k thanks.

  • 07.26.2009 3:24 PM PDT

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It mention in the games Reach was glassed. So you didn't need to read the books.

Theory=Shot in the face.

There IS NO TIME TRAVEL.

  • 07.26.2009 3:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wolverfrog
yea, that makes sense. also there cud be a mythic edision mastur cheef who brings the past 1 back 2 life at the end, and then it cud turn out it is captan keys in disgise as a sparten so the flood wudnt notice he wus still alive cos u see after you punch keys skull in halo 1 the flood part of him grows a new one and then he rips out of the flood bag and gos threw a portal wich takes him back to reach, the portal which mastur cheef activates when he blew up halo) so do you see wat i mean k thanks.
my friend has a cousin who works for bungie and my friend says that he says that the master cheaf (john) is actually JOHN forge in halo wars. it would make since. they are both badasses. and why would bungie name two people john if they were not the same person. i think that he gets transported to reach also when hyperdrive generators blows up the sun. and here he is the mythic cheaf who has no armor. and then the 3 of them team up.

  • 07.26.2009 3:27 PM PDT

time travel is to complicated (didnt read because of spacing issues) its just a cool easter egg

  • 07.26.2009 3:29 PM PDT
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Well look ya your right about the shaw fukijawa drives, but if you have ever read the books you would know that the amount of information they know about slipspace is little to none, so it is possible if bungie wanted it to be, the explosion of the halo very well could placed them back in time, for we have no idea what slipspace combined with the explosion might or might not have done, however it is a risky path to take, going back in time, bungie would have to make up alot of stuff maybe cortana would explain for example its hard and i dont think its like bungie to do something like that. It is possible they could travel back in time but i highly doubt bungie is going to have that happen.
i have read the books. and no, its not possible.
all the explosion couldve done is pushed the back half of in amber clad onto a different vector than the front half, which is what happened. saying the explosion mysteriously made chief go back in time is like saying eating a pbj could mysteriously turn you invisible.

  • 07.26.2009 3:32 PM PDT
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my friend has a cousin who works for bungie and my friend says that he says that the master cheaf (john) is actually JOHN forge in halo wars. it would make since. they are both badasses. and why would bungie name two people john if they were not the same person. i think that he gets transported to reach also when hyperdrive generators blows up the sun. and here he is the mythic cheaf who has no armor. and then the 3 of them team up.


This isn't possible my friend, sorry. We see Forge when he is grown up in Halo Wars. John was chosen for the SPARTAN 2 project from the age of 6. A SPARTAN 2 can't just slip under the radar and come out of his suit and pretend to be a normal soldier. The UNSC need them too much to allow them to do this.

  • 07.26.2009 4:35 PM PDT

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- X01... KIA
- X10... KIA
- X25... KIA
- X51... MIA

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i read all of that.
now let me explain why no time travel theory ever makes sense.

shaw-fujikawa drives dont bend time. they only bend space. thats why no one out of the thousands of jumps that happened ever went back in time, time progressed normally. they all arrived at their destinations at easily predictable times. why anyone would think this would be different just because there was an explosion happening at the time of the jump is beyond me.

thanks and have a good day.


Now, they didn't use those drives, they went through a sort of portal.
Also these theories are very possible because during some slipspace malfuncton in the Halo Universe a Spartan was sent back to 2004 and I believe was never seen again, this would be called a space-time continum.
I wouldn't exactly like to see this, but just the same old battle on Reach... I don't know.
But it does make sense that this could happen, remember 343 in Halo CE? He said something about John doing it (Activating Halo) before, and didn't see his problem activating it now. He also said something about not having the updated "Combat Skin?" My memory is vague, but the main ideas there are very true.

  • 07.26.2009 5:05 PM PDT