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Subject: Halo Reach - New Game Engine

Posted by: BirdKiller
I don't know what's wrong with the Halo 3 engine. The very first part of Siera 117 I still marvel at.


When you compare forest levels like that to the competition, Halo 3 looks very dated. And even if we excuse that, the absence of Anti-Aliasing is downright criminal. I can get used to Halo 3's graphics, what I can't get used to is pixelated pirates. I hope Halo: Reach truly delivers in graphics and places Bungie right back at the top back in Xbox's glory days when Halo 2 was bar-none when it came to graphics.

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Posted by: General Heed
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You know, now that I think about it. The Halo 3 Engine actually does push the Xbox 360 close to its limits. Even though it's a heavily modified version of the Halo 2 Engine, it still does use a lot of power from the 360. In fact, I think that Halo 3 actually pushes the 360 so much that it can cause the xbox 360 to overheat and have problems later on. If Halo Reach uses an even more powerful game engine, it could really push the xbox 360 past what it can handle.

I wonder if it's possible to overclock the xbox 360 cpu and gpu like you can on the PC maybe then, Halo Reach could run smoothly on the 360 without frying your console.

The Halo 3 Engine doesnt push the 360 to its limit...Look at the CryEngine 3 or Id Tech 5..this Engines pushing the 360 to its limit.
The Halo 3 engine is an improved Halo 2 Engine..watch some Youtube Videos from the old Alpha Halo 3 build and u will see.


The Halo 3 Engine, despite being an advanced version of the Halo 2 Engine does really push the Xbox 360 close to its limits.


NO it doesnt...u dont know anything about the 360 Hardware and Engines there are possible on it.
So stfu


When you play Halo 3 on the console, you can really tell its taking a lot of power. It's not like when you play an original xbox game, the console is fairly quiet. When you play Halo 3, the console makes quite a lot of noise especially with the fans spinning. That's a sign of how much power Halo 3 requires.


Well just because it takes a lot of power to run an engine doesnt mean the engine is pushing the full capabilities of the machine. The Halo 3 engine is probably really inefficient compared to what there capable of doing with there new engine. Halo 3 definitely isnt optimized to max out what the 360 hardware can do, I think when they show Reach up and running u will understand what I mean. Halo 3 engine is based off of Halo 2 code, which wasn't designed around multi core processing and multi threading... if Bungie is going to push the Hardware they have to build an engine from the ground up, designed around the 360 hardware.

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New to the bungie.net scene,migh sound stupid but does anyone know i Reach will be a first person shooter,or will it be like halo wars?

  • 08.10.2009 11:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: Lego281
New to the bungie.net scene,migh sound stupid but does anyone know i Reach will be a first person shooter,or will it be like halo wars?


Halo Reach will be a First Person Shooter. Every Halo Game made by Bungie will always be a First Person Shooter.

  • 08.11.2009 8:19 AM PDT
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No.

Posted by: Lego281
New to the bungie.net scene,migh sound stupid but does anyone know i Reach will be a first person shooter,or will it be like halo wars?


wiki moar.

  • 08.11.2009 8:58 PM PDT

Behold my Majicness!

maybe the faces of the humans wont look lik a 5 year old drew them

  • 08.11.2009 9:11 PM PDT

Nothing is better than gaming through the day, into the night, then back into the day. It's like when you finally push that power button you feel like you've accomplished nothing, but at the same time, you can't stop smiling.

I knew Bungie would do something like this. It's almost expected. Every Halo game except Halo 3 set the tone for how graphics should look and what they will look like in the future.

  • 08.11.2009 9:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan153
I knew Bungie would do something like this. It's almost expected. Every Halo game except Halo 3 set the tone for how graphics should look and what they will look like in the future.


Halo 3's graphics weren't that bad. There were a lot of improvements and advancements in Halo 3's graphics.

  • 08.12.2009 9:51 AM PDT

Posted by: General Heed
Lol this game will own all those people that say Gears of War is better cuz its graphics.


yea great job to bungie for getting a game with better graphics 4 years after the original gears of war... also halo reach better not be like halo 3 (in terms of story/campaign) because that was pretty awful. it should go back to its halo: ce roots like odst is kind of doing (hunters, red plasma rifle, good magnum)

and i know the red plasma rifle is from halo 2 dont worry

  • 08.12.2009 1:31 PM PDT

halo 3 wishes it pushes the xbox to its limits... gears of war, call of duty and red faction seem more along those lines but i think games will continue to have better and better graphics. plus, the idea of halo reach having actually good graphics is pretty sick

there was supposed to be a quote but it didnt seem to make it... awkward

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  • 08.12.2009 1:33 PM PDT

Mike Lowery: [singing] Bad boys, bad boys what ya gonna do? What ya gonna do when we come for you?
[Marcus starts ad-libbing the first verse]
Mike Lowery: Dude, you gotta learn the words.
Marcus Burnett: We usually only do the chorus

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i think bungie is going to try to raise the bar with good graphics this time. i hope they don't show a trailer saying it will look like this, but look alot worse.


Nah, Bungie would never do that to us. In fact, back during Halo 2, the trailer for Halo 2 didn't look as good as the final game. The final game was a lot better. Halo 3 wasn't that bad either. So I think the same would apply to Halo: Reach.

interesting fact:when halo 2 was first shown at e3 it was running on a superior version of the original xbox,

  • 08.12.2009 1:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: General Heed
Lol this game will own all those people that say Gears of War is better cuz its graphics.


yea great job to bungie for getting a game with better graphics 4 years after the original gears of war... also halo reach better not be like halo 3 (in terms of story/campaign) because that was pretty awful. it should go back to its halo: ce roots like odst is kind of doing (hunters, red plasma rifle, good magnum)

and i know the red plasma rifle is from halo 2 dont worry


ODST doesn't go back to Halo: CE roots at all. Hunters are in all three Halo games. The magnum is something completely new. It's called an Auto Mag. It has the damage power of a Halo 3 pistol, the speed of a Halo 2 pistol, and the scope of a Halo 1 pistol. So it combines all three pistols. The ODST campaign is an open world mystery type campaign. Halo 1, 2, and 3 all had the same type of campaign. ODST is closer to Halo 2 than it is to Halo 1. It's like Halo 2.5

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No.

He means it goes to the roots in that the hunters are actually HARD.

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Posted by: General Heed
Lol this game will own all those people that say Gears of War is better cuz its graphics.


yea great job to bungie for getting a game with better graphics 4 years after the original gears of war... also halo reach better not be like halo 3 (in terms of story/campaign) because that was pretty awful. it should go back to its halo: ce roots like odst is kind of doing (hunters, red plasma rifle, good magnum)

and i know the red plasma rifle is from halo 2 dont worry


ODST doesn't go back to Halo: CE roots at all. Hunters are in all three Halo games. The magnum is something completely new. It's called an Auto Mag. It has the damage power of a Halo 3 pistol, the speed of a Halo 2 pistol, and the scope of a Halo 1 pistol. So it combines all three pistols. The ODST campaign is an open world mystery type campaign. Halo 1, 2, and 3 all had the same type of campaign. ODST is closer to Halo 2 than it is to Halo 1. It's like Halo 2.5

Huh? I thought that the Automag essentially was the Halo 2 Pistol, the M6C, with a silencer and scope attatched.

  • 08.13.2009 6:05 PM PDT

A wise man once said, "Treat every stressful situation like a dog. If you can't eat it or hump it, piss on it and walk away."

Wow i can't wait!!!

  • 08.13.2009 6:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: General Heed
Posted by: B33FBoY64
Posted by: General Heed
Lol this game will own all those people that say Gears of War is better cuz its graphics.


yea great job to bungie for getting a game with better graphics 4 years after the original gears of war... also halo reach better not be like halo 3 (in terms of story/campaign) because that was pretty awful. it should go back to its halo: ce roots like odst is kind of doing (hunters, red plasma rifle, good magnum)

and i know the red plasma rifle is from halo 2 dont worry


ODST doesn't go back to Halo: CE roots at all. Hunters are in all three Halo games. The magnum is something completely new. It's called an Auto Mag. It has the damage power of a Halo 3 pistol, the speed of a Halo 2 pistol, and the scope of a Halo 1 pistol. So it combines all three pistols. The ODST campaign is an open world mystery type campaign. Halo 1, 2, and 3 all had the same type of campaign. ODST is closer to Halo 2 than it is to Halo 1. It's like Halo 2.5

Huh? I thought that the Automag essentially was the Halo 2 Pistol, the M6C, with a silencer and scope attatched.


No it's a lot different. Not only is the shape and appearance different, but the pistol does a lot more damage than the Halo 2 Pistol. The Automag is meant to replace the Battle Rifle.

In case you didn't know, the Battle Rifle has been removed in ODST. The Automag will be taking its place so that's why the Automag does a lot more damage than the Halo 2 pistol. It's more of a silenced, scoped, faster version of the Halo 3 pistol. But the Automag is essentially a completely new weapon.

Oh and this is starting to get off topic. We should try and stay on topic.

[Edited on 08.13.2009 10:12 PM PDT]

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Hmm.

Well while I wish they'd switched to Unreal 3, this will be good as well. New Engine = Better Graphics and Physics. Good to see Bungie get away from Havok, it's simply god-aweful compared to other Graphics Engines out there.

  • 08.13.2009 10:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: Time Glitch v2
Hmm.

Well while I wish they'd switched to Unreal 3, this will be good as well. New Engine = Better Graphics and Physics. Good to see Bungie get away from Havok, it's simply god-aweful compared to other Graphics Engines out there.


Havok is not a graphics engine. It is a physics engine. There's a difference between the two. The past 3 Halo games have used a game engine called The Halo Engine. They also used the Havok Engine for physics. You can expect Halo: Reach to continue using the Havok Physics Engine. But as for the graphical engine, that's where the changes will be made.

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Posted by: General Heed
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Hmm.

Well while I wish they'd switched to Unreal 3, this will be good as well. New Engine = Better Graphics and Physics. Good to see Bungie get away from Havok, it's simply god-aweful compared to other Graphics Engines out there.


Havok is not a graphics engine. It is a physics engine. There's a difference between the two. The past 3 Halo games have used a game engine called The Halo Engine. They also used the Havok Engine for physics. You can expect Halo: Reach to continue using the Havok Physics Engine. But as for the graphical engine, that's where the changes will be made.


Odd...I swear it was a game engine...Thanks for clearing that up!

Hope they use a different Physics engine then...

  • 08.13.2009 10:33 PM PDT
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No.

....fail.

  • 08.14.2009 4:29 PM PDT

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....fail.


lol...

  • 08.14.2009 9:40 PM PDT
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R.I.P. Halo 2
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Posted by: General Heed
Posted by: Time Glitch v2
Hmm.

Well while I wish they'd switched to Unreal 3, this will be good as well. New Engine = Better Graphics and Physics. Good to see Bungie get away from Havok, it's simply god-aweful compared to other Graphics Engines out there.


Havok is not a graphics engine. It is a physics engine. There's a difference between the two. The past 3 Halo games have used a game engine called The Halo Engine. They also used the Havok Engine for physics. You can expect Halo: Reach to continue using the Havok Physics Engine. But as for the graphical engine, that's where the changes will be made.

Halo 1 used a completely different engine than Halo 2 and 3. It did not use Havok.

  • 08.14.2009 9:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: BOB570
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Posted by: Time Glitch v2
Hmm.

Well while I wish they'd switched to Unreal 3, this will be good as well. New Engine = Better Graphics and Physics. Good to see Bungie get away from Havok, it's simply god-aweful compared to other Graphics Engines out there.


Havok is not a graphics engine. It is a physics engine. There's a difference between the two. The past 3 Halo games have used a game engine called The Halo Engine. They also used the Havok Engine for physics. You can expect Halo: Reach to continue using the Havok Physics Engine. But as for the graphical engine, that's where the changes will be made.

Halo 1 used a completely different engine than Halo 2 and 3. It did not use Havok.


No actually it did use Havok. Every Halo game so far has used Havok for the physics. You can obviously tell by the way bodies land when you die from certain types of explosion. The bodies will always land in a certain position which happens in all 3 Halo games indicating they used the same physics engine. This can also be observed in the game Stubbs The Zombie which also uses the Halo Engine which includes Havok.

  • 08.14.2009 10:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: BOB570
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Posted by: Time Glitch v2
Hmm.

Well while I wish they'd switched to Unreal 3, this will be good as well. New Engine = Better Graphics and Physics. Good to see Bungie get away from Havok, it's simply god-aweful compared to other Graphics Engines out there.


Havok is not a graphics engine. It is a physics engine. There's a difference between the two. The past 3 Halo games have used a game engine called The Halo Engine. They also used the Havok Engine for physics. You can expect Halo: Reach to continue using the Havok Physics Engine. But as for the graphical engine, that's where the changes will be made.

Halo 1 used a completely different engine than Halo 2 and 3. It did not use Havok.


Also, keep in mind that Havok isn't a game engine. It's a physics engine which is commonly used in many games.

  • 08.16.2009 8:59 PM PDT
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Hmm.

Well while I wish they'd switched to Unreal 3, this will be good as well. New Engine = Better Graphics and Physics. Good to see Bungie get away from Havok, it's simply god-aweful compared to other Graphics Engines out there.


Havok is not a graphics engine. It is a physics engine. There's a difference between the two. The past 3 Halo games have used a game engine called The Halo Engine. They also used the Havok Engine for physics. You can expect Halo: Reach to continue using the Havok Physics Engine. But as for the graphical engine, that's where the changes will be made.

Halo 1 used a completely different engine than Halo 2 and 3. It did not use Havok.


No actually it did use Havok. Every Halo game so far has used Havok for the physics. You can obviously tell by the way bodies land when you die from certain types of explosion. The bodies will always land in a certain position which happens in all 3 Halo games indicating they used the same physics engine. This can also be observed in the game Stubbs The Zombie which also uses the Halo Engine which includes Havok.

Ok, please find Halo: Combat Evolved for me.

  • 08.16.2009 9:35 PM PDT