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Subject: How is this any different from halo 3?
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Posted by: Neveri
Firefight is horde mode

Saying that proves your ignorance, Horde is a hold out mode, which have been in games forever.

and stamina isn't exactly a shield, it acts the same, but is drained faster and doesn't have a bar to go with it, and you said regenerating health, which this game doesn't have

  • 07.27.2009 4:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: Neveri
So you're playing as an ODST, the only difference I can see, is they added a cylinder on the front of the SMG and called it a new weapon, you can't throw grenades as far, you can't jump as high. Am I missing something?


more similiar to halo CE, this is a must buy... even for You :)

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  • 07.27.2009 4:32 PM PDT
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NO GROUP INVITES!!!

Oh and SMG is a bit more different from Halo 3 SMG (M7).
ODST SMG (M7S) has suppressor (whether it actually has any effect on gameplay is unknown), 2x zoom, it's more accurate and has (according to gameplay vids) only 48 rounds rather than 60. And no dual wielding. Not really that different but it's not only cosmetic thing.

  • 07.27.2009 4:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: IIGhoulishtieII
No shields, no elites, more strategic battles, freeroam capabilities, firefight, able to hold more grenades, new pistol, no BR, no sword......


Technically, there aren't any shields. Isn't there a sort of "Stamina" bar, which replaces shields?

  • 07.27.2009 4:42 PM PDT
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This is Halo 3
and...
This is Halo 3:ODST
see the difference?
:P

  • 07.27.2009 4:43 PM PDT

Posted by: spatutator
If you dont like it, dont buy it.


Ya, what he said

  • 07.27.2009 4:46 PM PDT

Posted by: Neveri
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Posted by: Neveri
There's clearly health regenerating in the video.

And yes, the fall damage and not jumping as high is the same as halo CE.

hey moron, its stamina, already confirmed by bungie, no its not regeneration health, its like a small sheild, after your stamina is gone, your health goes down and you need health packs to regenerate.


So it's a shield lol, but calling it stamina obviously makes it a new *feature*


No because in halo shields recharge automatically but instead if your not near health pack center and your health is low your pretty much screwed

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Look. You know you are going to buy it. Everyone is. Since everybody loved Halo 3 they will still love ODST. Stop trying to act like your dollar is worth more than ours. And stop acting like your some superior person. Its not working. Im not trying to sound like an ass or anything but c'mon. Everyone who is complaining about ODST will buy it. Just like everybody else. And if you arent well, all your other friends will be playing it and not regular Halo 3. You will want to play with friends and I am sure they will be on it. I am also certain that barley anybody will put in their Halo 3 disk after the release of ODST. Since nobody really plays Halo 3 campaign. And since ODST will have the multiplayer disk. Its just fact.

  • 07.27.2009 5:51 PM PDT

Posted by: Neveri
Posted by: IIGhoulishtieII
No shields, no elites, more strategic battles, freeroam capabilities, firefight, able to hold more grenades, new pistol, no BR, no sword......


I consider regenerating health that gives you aproximately the same toughness as master chiefs shield, a shield, it's the same gameplay dynamic. More strategic battles? Not from a recent gameplay I saw, looked pretty straightforward to me. Firefight is a shiny name for co-op. The *new* pistol is the pistol from halo 1, and is the only redeeming factor about this game.

not health stamina when your stamina goes down you lose health

  • 07.27.2009 5:54 PM PDT

Posted by: urk
Eat raw meat.
Punch a bear in the face.


If you don't know who I am, the feeling is mutual.

If your looking for a value, here's what you get:
- A Halo Campaign with co-op, collectable skulls and audiofiles, new story / characters, and new style.
- Firefight. Halo Survival Mode. That's worth $20.00 right there (Battlefield 1943 is $20.00 for four maps).
- Second disc containing Halo 3 Multiplayer and three new maps valuing $10.00.
- New achievements in ODST and Halo 3, and Recon armour.

I think it's the second best deal since the Orange Box. But that's just me.

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  • 07.27.2009 6:00 PM PDT

have you ever played a free roam game on split screen? no you haven't because there is no other game like this. No matter what, Bungie knows what a good game is, and i would bet my life that there will be no gameplay better than the gameplay in this game, unless it was another halo game.

  • 07.27.2009 6:06 PM PDT

"When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons! What am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give EL1TE SUPR3MACY lemons! Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!"

New Campaign, new hero. Didn't you watch the trailer?

  • 07.27.2009 6:10 PM PDT

Posted by: Neveri

I consider regenerating health that gives you aproximately the same toughness as master chiefs shield.


Lies

  • 07.27.2009 6:16 PM PDT

How about the fact that it's Halo, it has a new story, you play as multiple characters, and it has an open world free-roaming city. Levels and objectives can be done in any order you want.

If you've seen everything, including firefight, and you don't want it, don't buy it. You won't hurt my feelings one bit. The game will still kick ass and firefight will probably be more fun without you online.

EDIT: In fact thinking about it, this game is more different than Halo 1, 2, or 3.

What makes Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 any different from Call of Duty Modern Warfare? What makes Mass Effect 2 different from Mass Effect? What makes any sequel different? What makes Bioshock 2 any different from Bioshock? What makes Guitar Hero 439 different from Guitar Hero 2? The truth is, this game is more different than Halo 3 than any of the two games I listed.

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  • 07.27.2009 6:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: Neveri
So you're playing as an ODST, the only difference I can see, is they added a cylinder on the front of the SMG and called it a new weapon, you can't throw grenades as far, you can't jump as high. Am I missing something?
no radar

  • 07.27.2009 6:29 PM PDT

Posted by: Neveri
Firefight is horde mode

No. Firefight is survival mode. Which was out long before GoW.

  • 07.27.2009 6:41 PM PDT

Keep it classy Flood.

Posted by: Neveri
Firefight is horde mode


GoW did not invent Survival gametypes. Hell, with your logic, Horde=Galaga.

  • 07.27.2009 7:17 PM PDT

Group is Soldiers of War, ask for invite if you're interested

If you don't understand the difference, read the Bungie articles about it or just wait till September to find out.

If you're a fan, you should like it.

  • 07.27.2009 7:19 PM PDT

X74

there is actualy swords

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To sum everything up for the OP..

Its Halo 3

- No Mastercheif
- "Sheild" is stamina that does not come back.. Its like Halo: CE but the shield protecting your hp is less and it doesn't come back
- Small Hops, and fall damage
- SMG now has scope and more accurate
- VISR
- Fireflight kinda like a Survial thing
- Anything any other Halo Campaign has had (Skulls, co-op etc)


Bonuses

Maps for Halo 3
More Achievements
More Vidmaster Achievements do em all get skulls on maps omg Recon


In the End its just another Halo.. Its like an expansion for a game.. Why its 60 Bucks welcome to Microsoft.. They decide the price... Deal with it

And also... Haven't you noticed that all Halos are alike!.... Its not like an expansion should be a new game.. It if was they would call it something else.

  • 07.27.2009 7:38 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Some health regenerates. Think Halo 1.

  • 07.27.2009 7:40 PM PDT

FEET FIRST INTO HELL

Posted by: Neveri
So you're playing as an ODST, the only difference I can see, is they added a cylinder on the front of the SMG and called it a new weapon, you can't throw grenades as far, you can't jump as high. Am I missing something?


ya the Chiefs' dick in your mouth. Loser

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Posted by: IIGhoulishtieII
No shields, no elites, more strategic battles, freeroam capabilities, firefight, able to hold more grenades, new pistol, no BR, no sword......


...I thought there was only rush or get rushed in team slayer/slayer

  • 07.27.2009 11:48 PM PDT

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