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Subject: The "Assault" Rifle

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Poll: The "Assault" Rifle  [closed]
Halo CE:  37%
(70 Votes)
Halo 3:  20%
(38 Votes)
Eliminated From MM:  17%
(32 Votes)
Kept the same w/ Grenade launcher:  8%
(15 Votes)
made to compete in strength with BR:  19%
(36 Votes)
Total Votes: 191

What would u do with it?

[Edited on 07.27.2009 9:43 PM PDT]

  • 07.27.2009 9:43 PM PDT

halo 3 but a bit louder

  • 07.27.2009 9:44 PM PDT

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Make it sound like the Halo 1 AR, but with more bass.

45 rounds/magazine
Same accuracy as the Halo 1 AR when fired in full auto
Same accuracy as Halo 2 BR when single-shotted
Accuracy between the two when pulsed
Same power as the Halo 1 AR for bodyshots, 200% damage increase for headshots
2x scope, like the H3 ODST SMG

  • 07.27.2009 9:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Make it sound like the Halo 1 AR, but with more bass.

45 rounds/magazine
Same accuracy as the Halo 1 AR when fired in full auto
Same accuracy as Halo 2 BR when single-shotted
Accuracy between the two when pulsed
Same power as the Halo 1 AR for bodyshots, 200% damage increase for headshots
2x scope, like the H3 ODST SMG


Elaborate on single shot

  • 07.27.2009 9:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ridin Dirtym99
Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Make it sound like the Halo 1 AR, but with more bass.

45 rounds/magazine
Same accuracy as the Halo 1 AR when fired in full auto
Same accuracy as Halo 2 BR when single-shotted
Accuracy between the two when pulsed
Same power as the Halo 1 AR for bodyshots, 200% damage increase for headshots
2x scope, like the H3 ODST SMG


Elaborate on single shot
You tap the trigger and only one bullet comes out, like with most automatic weapons in the Halo trilogy.

  • 07.27.2009 9:51 PM PDT
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Needs to be similar to halo 1, controllable ROF, good range,

but it needs to have more damage per bullet, (it is a 7.62 after all) and needs to have less melee reach.

  • 07.27.2009 10:08 PM PDT

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The Halo 1 AR had less range than the Halo 3 AR. Both are horrible weapons, the H3 AR just gets a bad rap because the melee system in Halo 3 is broken. In the sense that melees never fail to connect unless there's some sort of lag or glitch; meleeing is not about skill as it was in Halo 1. If Halo 1 had the Halo 3 melee, the AR would have been called a noob gun back then too.

  • 07.27.2009 10:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
The Halo 1 AR had less range than the Halo 3 AR. Both are horrible weapons, the H3 AR just gets a bad rap because the melee system in Halo 3 is broken. In the sense that melees never fail to connect unless there's some sort of lag or glitch; meleeing is not about skill as it was in Halo 1. If Halo 1 had the Halo 3 melee, the AR would have been called a noob gun back then too.


Your actually dead wrong on that....

In halo 1 the AR could be single shotted, DRASTICALLY improving its range. Due to this it was possible to eliminate the enemy player from across boarding action and at great distances on Blood gulch.

In campaign the CE AR was actually more effective than the pistol against elites, fared well against the flood, and was a potent banshee killer.

In halo 3 the AR is only potent in multiplayer, but it is difficult to use against an BR effectively if u dont know what your doing.

In campaign on heroic or legendary the AR is totally useless.

  • 07.27.2009 10:21 PM PDT

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The AR in H3 can be pulsed too, and will land in the center of the reticle from an Avalanche base to the cliff wall near laser, so they both have the range, the H3 AR just packs more power so its more effective to pulse than the one in H1. Online, however, pulsing is pretty worthless with Halo 3's hit detection, though, and H1 was local play with no lag.

  • 07.27.2009 10:24 PM PDT

You need to be able duel wield it.

  • 07.27.2009 10:27 PM PDT
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the Halo 3 AR is not as effective as the original.... Bottom line, I suspect you may agree with me...

It may have the same range qualities, but the "3" AR doesnt do enough damage to seriously inhibit the enemy, additionally the mag is so shallow that you can only expect 4-10 hits at range before its dry.

In addition to this the Halo 1 AR was MUCH better at killing the enemy once their shields were down.... This may have been due to a combination of a higher rof, and a wider reticule for cqb.

The reticle itself made up for the lack of a long lunge.

  • 07.27.2009 10:29 PM PDT

Charge...BACKWARDS!

Umm, none of those choices in the poll appeal to me.

  • 07.27.2009 10:53 PM PDT
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Make it a mid/close range weapon. Close range when automatic and midrange with small bursts. Same should apply with the Plasma Rifle. All the weapons need more range.

  • 07.27.2009 11:12 PM PDT

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Both the Plasma Rifle and the Assault Rifle need a scope.

  • 07.27.2009 11:26 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

I want the Halo 3 AR as a base.

Increase the magazine to 36 rounds.
Against health/HP/Non-shields: 2x damage for headshots (still would take 3 headshots once the shields were down to kill)
Barrel Mounted flashlight, single and multiplayer
Decrease time to target slightly, lets say H3 AR time to target = 100, H3 BR time to target is 50, HR AR would be ~ 75. Or make it hitscan.

Reduce lunge range to .5 meters for all weapons except Hammer, Sword, and Brute Weapons.

This would make the AR more competitive, by adding more rounds to the magazine, increasing it's effective range.
It would make the weapon take more skill, by granting extra damage for those who aim for the head once shields are down, and reducing the range of melee lunge.

And since the melee range on all weapons is reduced except for specialty weapons, it wouldn't be a major disadvantage.

[Edited on 07.27.2009 11:31 PM PDT]

  • 07.27.2009 11:28 PM PDT
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I want it to be like an automatic BR only little less power

  • 07.27.2009 11:33 PM PDT

Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Make it sound like the Halo 1 AR, but with more bass.

45 rounds/magazine
Same accuracy as the Halo 1 AR when fired in full auto
Same accuracy as Halo 2 BR when single-shotted
Accuracy between the two when pulsed
Same power as the Halo 1 AR for bodyshots, 200% damage increase for headshots
2x scope, like the H3 ODST SMG


agreed**

  • 07.27.2009 11:34 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Dual wieldable in campaign.

  • 07.27.2009 11:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: Uncle Kulikov
Dual wieldable in campaign.

Still Garbage.

  • 07.27.2009 11:47 PM PDT

If you want to see the MC die, play Legendary. If you want to see MC finish the fight, play Halo 3. If you want to see MC finish the fight by dieing, why did you waste six years when you could have done it yourself right now?

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What on Earth is this thread? H3 all the way. It is absolute perfection of what a starting weapon should be and is the most powerful of the standard starting weapons so far. But, that's not good enough for you, is it? No, you won't be satisfied until all you have to do is THINK about the people you see falling to the ground.

I don't want it any more powerful. I don't want it any weaker. There are more pressing issues with other weapons, like the Pistol and the Plasma Rifle.

[Edited on 07.28.2009 12:02 AM PDT]

  • 07.28.2009 12:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: bansheeownz
What on Earth is this thread? H3 all the way. It is absolute perfection of what a starting weapon should be and is the most powerful of the standard starting weapons so far. But, that's not good enough for you, is it? No, you won't be satisfied until all you have to do is THINK about the people you see falling to the ground.

I don't want it any more powerful. I don't want it any weaker. There are more pressing issues with other weapons, like the Pistol and the Plasma Rifle.


Perfect Starting weapon my ass. All it does in Halo 3 is allow for a retarded B button Blitzkrieg. Thats no very good for gameplay. The assault rifle needs some serious work.

  • 07.28.2009 12:07 AM PDT

If you want to see the MC die, play Legendary. If you want to see MC finish the fight, play Halo 3. If you want to see MC finish the fight by dieing, why did you waste six years when you could have done it yourself right now?

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Posted by: Bullet _ Sponge
Perfect Starting weapon my ass. All it does in Halo 3 is allow for a retarded B button Blitzkrieg. Thats no very good for gameplay. The assault rifle needs some serious work.

I'll take this complaint over "stupid camping noob" any day. This starting weapon encourages movement. You don't like it, go back to Halo 2. Let me know if you liked it any more.

  • 07.28.2009 12:09 AM PDT

None of those options appeal to me.

I think that it should have the following:

-35 round clip
-10 rounds a second
-15 bullets to kill
-More accurate. The aiming reticule should be just a wee bit larger than that of the BR from Halo 3. And when you consider that about 1/4 of the bullets go outside the reticule...
-Sounds like a real gun*

*This applies to all weapons.

  • 07.28.2009 12:12 AM PDT
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Eliminated from MM apparently I'm the only one who voted,

AR warriors are incredibly annoying in TS.

  • 07.28.2009 12:21 AM PDT

If you want to see the MC die, play Legendary. If you want to see MC finish the fight, play Halo 3. If you want to see MC finish the fight by dieing, why did you waste six years when you could have done it yourself right now?

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Has everyone forgotten about camping and stealth? It's still extremely effective. Especially against "AR charging newbs." I am still convinced nothing is wrong and that you are all making a big deal out of nothing. Maybe without fall guys like the Plasma Pistol or super jumps, you just need something to bash on.

  • 07.28.2009 12:34 AM PDT

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