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Subject: The "Assault" Rifle

Combine the two versions. Give it the accuracy and range of the MA5C, but the sixty round magazine, lower power, and rate of fire of the MA5B. And instead of using either sound effect, introduce a brand new, much meatier effect that makes people spasm with glee.

  • 07.28.2009 1:29 AM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Make it sound like the Halo 1 AR, but with more bass.

45 rounds/magazine
Same accuracy as the Halo 1 AR when fired in full auto
Same accuracy as Halo 2 BR when single-shotted
Accuracy between the two when pulsed
Same power as the Halo 1 AR for bodyshots, 200% damage increase for headshots
2x scope, like the H3 ODST SMG

If it had headshot and zoom then it wouldn't really be the assault rifle any more, some new breed of super weapon.

I think we could give it more ammo (45 does sound good) in exchange for a slightly longer reload time.

  • 07.28.2009 1:37 AM PDT

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I want a rifle, not something comparable in range to a knife!

  • 07.28.2009 1:48 AM PDT

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What we have in Halo 3 is NOT an assault rifle. It can be considered as a tactical last resort weapon. It only works at close rang with a messed up meele system. Also, nobody wants to start with it on maps like Standoff or Valhalla. The range may be good but the accuracy and power are lacking. I should be able to put up a fight at medium range against someone with the BR. Either that or chang the name of it to the OGSMG. Over Grown Sub-Machine Gun.

  • 07.28.2009 8:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Make it sound like the Halo 1 AR, but with more bass.

45 rounds/magazine
Same accuracy as the Halo 1 AR when fired in full auto
Same accuracy as Halo 2 BR when single-shotted
Accuracy between the two when pulsed
Same power as the Halo 1 AR for bodyshots, 200% damage increase for headshots
2x scope, like the H3 ODST SMG


Modded controlers would have fully auto-matic spot on guns?

  • 07.28.2009 8:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Make it sound like the Halo 1 AR, but with more bass.

45 rounds/magazine
Same accuracy as the Halo 1 AR when fired in full auto
Same accuracy as Halo 2 BR when single-shotted
Accuracy between the two when pulsed
Same power as the Halo 1 AR for bodyshots, 200% damage increase for headshots
2x scope, like the H3 ODST SMG


Modded controlers would have fully auto-matic spot on guns?


Whats your point about modded controlers? Anyway thats a small problem that Bungie can do nothing about. It shouldn't affect the creation or reimagining of a old weapon.

  • 07.28.2009 8:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: Bullet _ Sponge
Make it a mid/close range weapon. Close range when automatic and midrange with small bursts. Same should apply with the Plasma Rifle. All the weapons need more range.

Have you people ever tried firing the Halo 3 assault rifle in bursts? It does work at medium range. Yes, it doesn't have the accuracy or power a BR does at that range, but you can still kill at that range.

I think the Halo 3 AR is fine where it's at. I think it could use a little extra oomph in the sound effect area, but that's about it.

  • 07.28.2009 8:44 AM PDT

I see, you want the AR to have the same strengh as the br, but hate the br because its strong....

  • 07.28.2009 8:45 AM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Make it sound like the Halo 1 AR, but with more bass.

45 rounds/magazine
Same accuracy as the Halo 1 AR when fired in full auto
Same accuracy as Halo 2 BR when single-shotted
Accuracy between the two when pulsed
Same power as the Halo 1 AR for bodyshots, 200% damage increase for headshots
2x scope, like the H3 ODST SMG

If it had headshot and zoom then it wouldn't really be the assault rifle any more, some new breed of super weapon.

I think we could give it more ammo (45 does sound good) in exchange for a slightly longer reload time.
I disagree.... the SMG in H3: ODST has a 2x zoom function. I don't want a it to be a headshot weapon (BR, Carbine, Pistol, Sniper, etc.), but it should have a headshot bonus (like the Halo 1 Plasma Rifle)... for example, it takes 20 bodyshots to kill, but if you land headshots, it would only take 10.

  • 07.28.2009 9:17 AM PDT

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No.

  • 07.28.2009 10:09 AM PDT

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Does everything it was designed to do. It has a shortened clip so you'll more likely go into melee combat.

  • 07.28.2009 12:07 PM PDT

ugh i prefer the smg

  • 07.28.2009 12:10 PM PDT

Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Make it sound like the Halo 1 AR, but with more bass.

45 rounds/magazine
Same accuracy as the Halo 1 AR when fired in full auto
Same accuracy as Halo 2 BR when single-shotted
Accuracy between the two when pulsed
Same power as the Halo 1 AR for bodyshots, 200% damage increase for headshots
2x scope, like the H3 ODST SMG
I agree with everything you said except 200% damage on headshots. There's absolutely no reason to give a full-auto weapon headshot properties. It would only make AR fights more random, and even stupider than they currently are.

Also, no scope. That just blurs the line between the AR and BR too much, and it would make the AR even more ridiculous than it currently is.

[Edited on 07.28.2009 12:15 PM PDT]

  • 07.28.2009 12:14 PM PDT
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No.

Posted by: ROCK3TTman24
ugh i prefer the smg


That's the funniest thing I've ever heard.

It's a damn shame most of you were introduced to halo through the second game. Now bungie has to satisfy the people that were trained by their worst installment. This means including bad features/ weapons. The SMG is one of them.

  • 07.28.2009 12:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Make it sound like the Halo 1 AR, but with more bass.

45 rounds/magazine
Same accuracy as the Halo 1 AR when fired in full auto
Same accuracy as Halo 2 BR when single-shotted
Accuracy between the two when pulsed
Same power as the Halo 1 AR for bodyshots, 200% damage increase for headshots
2x scope, like the H3 ODST SMG
I agree with everything you said except 200% damage on headshots. There's absolutely no reason to give a full-auto weapon headshot properties. It would only make AR fights more random, and even stupider than they currently are.

Also, no scope. That just blurs the line between the AR and BR too much, and it would make the AR even more ridiculous than it currently is.
Fully automatic it would be as inaccurate as the Halo 1 AR (and possibly with muzzle climb), so you would not land the headshots unless you pulse or single shot. Also, I dont see the problem with the scope. The SMG got one in ODST.

  • 07.28.2009 12:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: ROCK3TTman24
ugh i prefer the smg


That's the funniest thing I've ever heard.

It's a damn shame most of you were introduced to halo through the second game. Now bungie has to satisfy the people that were trained by their worst installment. This means including bad features/ weapons. The SMG is one of them.

It's the worst in Halo 3, even when dual-wielded. Bring back the old MA5B with the signature death rattle. Also, I agree as well that Halo: CE blows Halo 2 and Halo 3 out of the water. If ODST manages to do that, than I will consider it a full game over both sequels.

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  • 07.28.2009 1:23 PM PDT

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I would want it to have a missle launcher attachment and the missle heatseek. And shoot heat seeking laser beams at people at 2x the speed of light..

  • 07.28.2009 1:33 PM PDT

My dream AR..

First of all, use the original AR firing sound; the new one sounds like a staple gun.

And I find that if they gave the AR the ability to headshot it could probably stack up with the BR. I can generally bring a person's shield down from a distance by bursting no problem, it's the extra bullets that it requires to take someone else down that usually kill me when all they need is four pulls of the trigger and a headshot. The only problem with giving the AR the ability to headshot is being able to spray people's faces with bullets in close range.


[Edited on 07.28.2009 1:43 PM PDT]

  • 07.28.2009 1:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: UnstableProject
I see, you want the AR to have the same strengh as the br, but hate the br because its strong....


No. I love the BR but it an "assault" rifle should compete. It should be like the M16 w/ scope vs. the M4A1 with no scope.

  • 07.28.2009 4:01 PM PDT

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Make it like the Halo CE assualt rifle, and also make the Shotgun like the Halo CE also

  • 07.28.2009 4:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: C05ta WiNs93
Why make it compete? Just eliminate it and have br starts. The problem bungie wont do this is because it isnt noob friendly (i.e. all of you). So if the game isn't noob friendly there will be less sales. But still ban it from matchmaking and nobody cares about campaign.

Campaign is the most important part of the game.

  • 07.28.2009 8:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: C05ta WiNs93
Why make it compete? Just eliminate it and have br starts. The problem bungie wont do this is because it isnt noob friendly (i.e. all of you). So if the game isn't noob friendly there will be less sales. But still ban it from matchmaking and nobody cares about campaign.


Yes because the BR takes so much skill to use. Oh wait no it doesn't. Stop exaggerating -blam!-.

  • 07.28.2009 8:29 PM PDT
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Your So Bad, The AR Is Over powered As it is! the Br is only as powerful as the person using it. you kids make me laugh

  • 07.28.2009 8:30 PM PDT

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