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Subject: The "Assault" Rifle

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Posted by: xXWeS IZ S1CkXx
Your So Bad, The AR Is Over powered As it is! the Br is only as powerful as the person using it. you kids make me laugh


The AR needs better range and a skill variable like a headshot bonus to compete with other weapons. You faux "pro" kidsonly think that because AR's beat you at close range coupled with the broken beat down system, the least effective niche the BR fills. AR starts are a joke because anybody who doesn't have downes syndrome can easily pick you off across an open map.

[Edited on 07.28.2009 8:34 PM PDT]

  • 07.28.2009 8:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: xXWeS IZ S1CkXx
Your So Bad, The AR Is Over powered As it is! the Br is only as powerful as the person using it. you kids make me laugh


True. But there should be a way to give the AR the same credit. As of now, its only used for suprise attacks, swift beatdowns, and decoration. If it actually took MORE skill to use it then it would have a place in MM.

  • 07.28.2009 8:35 PM PDT

If you want to see the MC die, play Legendary. If you want to see MC finish the fight, play Halo 3. If you want to see MC finish the fight by dieing, why did you waste six years when you could have done it yourself right now?

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I have trouble understanding everyones point of view on this. As I've already said... twice, the AR is the strongest standard starting weapon yet. It still serves its purpose too. On almost every player's career stats I see, it's the number 3 most used weapon. Second being Melee, likely many of them are from the AR. Finally BR is almost always number 1. And yet you think it should be even MORE effective in a wider range of scenarios?

[Edited on 07.28.2009 8:51 PM PDT]

  • 07.28.2009 8:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: bansheeownz
I have trouble understanding everyones point of view on this. As I've already said... twice, the AR is the strongest standard starting weapon yet. It still serves its purpose too. On almost every player's career stats I see, it's the number 3 most used weapon. Second being Melee, likely many of them are from the AR. Finally BR is almost always number 1. And yet you think it should be even MORE effective in a wider range of scenarios?


If Bungie left it out of Halo Reach, who would miss it? Especially if they dressed up the smg. All im saying is that it needs to live up to its name, assault.

  • 07.28.2009 8:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ridin Dirtym99
If Bungie left it out of Halo Reach, who would miss it? Especially if they dressed up the smg. All im saying is that it needs to live up to its name, assault.

Are you suggesting we make the SMG the standard starting weapon again and make the Assault Rifle a much more effective weapon at medium range?

Actually when put that way, I kind of like it.

  • 07.28.2009 8:57 PM PDT

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Thats not what I was saying but actually... I kinda like that too.

  • 07.28.2009 8:58 PM PDT

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Completely eliminate it from matchmaking, or at least don't make it the staring weapon. I frequently swap it for one SMG or switch to my magnum. That's saying something.

  • 07.28.2009 9:05 PM PDT

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Oh my god! Did my misunderstanding just assassinate this thread? Okay, we gotta forward this idea to Bungie asap. It's either genius or complete insanity.

[Edited on 07.28.2009 11:45 PM PDT]

  • 07.28.2009 11:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
The Halo 1 AR had less range than the Halo 3 AR. Both are horrible weapons, the H3 AR just gets a bad rap because the melee system in Halo 3 is broken. In the sense that melees never fail to connect unless there's some sort of lag or glitch; meleeing is not about skill as it was in Halo 1. If Halo 1 had the Halo 3 melee, the AR would have been called a noob gun back then too.

Not really, the H3 AR has less range than the H1 AR, im not counting when the reticle stops being red when you look at an enemy, but the maximum distince the opponent has to be in order for you to become inaffective. Most people wont try it, but you can hit someone from accross the map, the map is sidewinder, you are at a base and the enemy is just walking by the shade.

  • 07.29.2009 2:57 AM PDT
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No.

I really think it's the sound that's putting everyone off.

I mean, I like SHOOTING the SMG, but I don't like FIGHTING with it.

Just like I like FIGHTING with the AR, I just don't like SHOOTING with it.

If it sounded better, it would FEEL right.

  • 08.01.2009 12:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: mysterymeat3
Completely eliminate it from matchmaking, or at least don't make it the staring weapon. I frequently swap it for one SMG or switch to my magnum. That's saying something.

Me too, exept instead of smg, i switch it for a plasma pistol

  • 08.02.2009 8:30 AM PDT

Actually, the problem with Halo weapons is that their pitch is too low. If they turned the pitch up, then the weapons would sound more real. BANG!

Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Make it sound like the Halo 1 AR, but with more bass.

45 rounds/magazine
Same accuracy as the Halo 1 AR when fired in full auto
Same accuracy as Halo 2 BR when single-shotted
Accuracy between the two when pulsed
Same power as the Halo 1 AR for bodyshots, 200% damage increase for headshots
2x scope, like the H3 ODST SMG

  • 08.02.2009 9:58 AM PDT
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I want this:

- 60 rounds
- Fully Automatic
- Accuracy: Low to Moderate (depending on rate of fire)
- Range: Medium

  • 08.02.2009 10:34 AM PDT
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let bungie see this thread

  • 08.02.2009 11:28 AM PDT
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the halo 1 assault rifle was the best. I prefer that assault rifle or atleast that one with the same power, it does seem unrealistic to have the same 60 round mag though, but i'd like that. the new halo 3 assault rifles are accurate, but it's clip and power is pathetic and something to be laughed at, in legendary mode it's useless

  • 08.02.2009 11:43 AM PDT

"YOUR DESTRUCTION IS THE WILL OF THE GODS, AND WE ARE THEIR INSTRUMENT."

Revive the Halo CE Assault Rifle, hands down. That thing is pretty cool, shoots down Banshees and doesn't afraid of anything.

  • 08.02.2009 11:45 AM PDT

Longer range Halo CE AR.

I, in my opinion, think that the BR is the weapon to get, but, when I spawn and the other team has BR's I want something that can compete. The H3 AR is a really good CQB weapon but the person using it doesn't have a chance against someone with a BR, on sniper tower, on The Pit, whilst you look for cover but can't find any.

-More range added to the AR

-A bit more accurate

-A 2X scope like ODST has on the SMG

  • 08.02.2009 12:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: Manbearpig0
Combine the two versions. Give it the accuracy and range of the MA5C, but the sixty round magazine, lower power, and rate of fire of the MA5B. And instead of using either sound effect, introduce a brand new, much meatier effect that makes people spasm with glee.


This guy is thinking the right way. This is definitely the best solution and is probably what bungie has already done for Reach.

  • 08.18.2009 7:23 AM PDT
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Posted by: N4T1V3 BO1
halo 3 but a bit louder

why louder? they were GAS propelled, it says so in the description of the weapon

  • 08.18.2009 7:16 PM PDT

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