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Posted by: Grumpy2
Posted by: horrormaster34
Stating facts =/= complaining

Your opinion =/= fact

By the way, are you going to stop me from playing Halo 2 or stating facts about it? Are you going to make shut up? I didn't think so. Until you can, I will continue to speak the truth about this horrid game that is only played by cheaters and children.
You haven't spoken any truths, only your opinion. You have a right to type what you want until such time as a Ninja decides otherwise. My personal opinion of you is that you are a troll. Look up the definition of an internet troll and that is you. You purposefully disrupt threads and I believe you get a certain, lonely, joy out of it. My guess is that you will be dealt with accordingly unless you change your tune.


So you think I haven't posted one thing that is true? That means you think Halo 2 has no glitches. It means that you believe there are no button glitches in Halo 2. It means you believe there is no reload, BxB, double-shot, quad-shot, super-bounch, etc. glitch. Sorry, but you're horribly wrong. Go ahead and disprove everything I have stated. I have only stated facts about Halo 2 and nothing else.

I love how you act like I actually care if I get banned from this -blam!-hole that is filled with nothing but fanboys who think every Halo game is perfect, innovated, and the greatest game ever. If I did get banned it would only be because I actually speak the truth about the Halo series and nothing else. If trolling is the same thing as stating facts, then yes, I'm trolling.

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Posted by: horrormaster34
Posted by: Grumpy2
Posted by: horrormaster34
Stating facts =/= complaining

Your opinion =/= fact

By the way, are you going to stop me from playing Halo 2 or stating facts about it? Are you going to make shut up? I didn't think so. Until you can, I will continue to speak the truth about this horrid game that is only played by cheaters and children.
You haven't spoken any truths, only your opinion. You have a right to type what you want until such time as a Ninja decides otherwise. My personal opinion of you is that you are a troll. Look up the definition of an internet troll and that is you. You purposefully disrupt threads and I believe you get a certain, lonely, joy out of it. My guess is that you will be dealt with accordingly unless you change your tune.


So you think I haven't posted one thing that is true? That means you think Halo 2 has no glitches. It means that you believe there are no button glitches in Halo 2. It means you believe there is no reload, BxB, double-shot, quad-shot, super-bounch, etc. glitch. Sorry, but you're horribly wrong. Go ahead and disprove everything I have stated. I have only stated facts about Halo 2 and nothing else.

I love how you act like I actually care if I get banned from this -blam!-hole that is filled with nothing but fanboys who think every Halo game is perfect, innovated, and the greatest game ever. If I did get banned it would only be because I actually speak the truth about the Halo series and nothing else. If trolling is the same thing as stating facts, then yes, I'm trolling.
More gibberish, still no facts. A troll by any other name is still a troll. But that's ok, I like hunting trolls. Until such time as you are hammered, good day sir.

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So then you believe that there are no glitches in Halo 2? That's what you just confirmed. I have stated facts and you have yet to even try and disprove them.

You also stated that stating facts = trolling. If that's the case, EVERYBODY in the HISTORY OF MANKIND is a troll. Einstein was one of the greatest trolls of all-time. Discovering the world wasn't flat must be the greatest troll moment EVER then. Sir Isaac Newton and all he discovered, great trolling there too I guess.

Seriously, you're nothing but a butthurt Halo 2 fanboy. Keep sucking Halo 2 and believing its the greatest, most innovate game of all-time. Non-biased people like myself will continue to laugh at you and your type.

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Host Advantage
-I agree with this. Having host also means your BR is far more effective at long range and gives you a tremendous leg-up in SWAT games if you can abuse it. For instance if I get host I'll go into a sniper mentality where I avoid close and medium range encounters and only go for long range targets. It also gives you certain perks such as the death grenade. If you chuck a grenade the moment you die it'll explode and inflict damage to anyone in its blast range every time with absolutely no exception whereas if you don't have host and try the same thing the grenade almost always inflicts no damage.

Snipe Swipe
-Keep the sniper out of his scope with a BR. If you're still getting sniped while shooting at distances then you're not actually hitting him. It sounds like you need to lead your shots.

Super Bounces
-I agree it's annoying. Once an opponent is up on Turf they also get the perfect spot to watch for anyone else trying to bounce. It easily breaks the game and I don't get why an invisible ceiling hasn't been added to this map.

Unbalanced teams
-The problem is you're facing a team that joined as a party. Why matchmaking doesn't match a party with only another party is beyond me but if you go in alone you face a good chance of facing a coordinated team that doesn't quit.

Flag capture cheats
-I don't get why you don't adopt a new strategy to counter this. Just live and learn.

Grenades
-Grenades don't home. Some people are just better at spamming them accurately.

Super Lunging, Sticky Grenades and rockets
-It honestly sounds like lag. Regardless of your connection speed you can still have lag because of a bad host.

Battle Rifle
-This weapon's too important to remove. But if someone can perfectly time eight button pushes and trigger pulls together in the heat of battle I'm going to let him have the kill. It doesn't happen to me that often to be honest about it. You lost me here on getting shot over the shoulder and below their knee. That makes no sense. And what difference does it make where the shot came from?

Reload Glitch
-Don't miss in the first place.

Unused Maps
-I agree.

Warthog Gunner
-Again just live and learn. Throw an extra grenade to finish the job.

Threats & Harassment, Underage & Cursing
-Just mute anyone that annoys you.

Doing Nothing About It.
-Bungie released a 1.1 patch soon after the game was released that fixed a myriad of glitches and exploits. They didn't introduce more glitches. Super bouncing and button glitches were present before the patch.

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I didn't state that facts = trolling, you did. You have no credibility since you insist that you would never lose if it wasn't for cheaters. I still don't see facts, only opinions.

If you had stayed in this thread I would not have called you a troll. Instead, you went into another thread and disrupted that thread on purpose. For that, you are a troll.

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Posted by: Grumpy2
I didn't state that facts = trolling, you did. You have no credibility since you insist that you would never lose if it wasn't for cheaters. I still don't see facts, only opinions.

If you had stayed in this thread I would not have called you a troll. Instead, you went into another thread and disrupted that thread on purpose. For that, you are a troll.


I state facts and you call that trolling, therefore stating facts = trolling. Every game I have played that the other team wasn't cheating, I have won. Sorry, but that's a fact. What you fail to see is that because the game is ridden with a player base that is 99% cheaters, the amount of games I play against non-cheaters is extremely low. Because you are too stupid to ask the right questions, you fail to see that it's really easy to play maybe 20 games against non-cheaters and too have never lost.

You also continue to say that I have to state a fact. Again, that means you believe that there are no glitches on Halo 2. Every post you make you keep repeating that statement. EVERY person that has ever played Halo 2 online knows the game has dozens of glitches. The fact that you keep denying the existence of any glitches is just down right stupid.

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Host Advantage
-I agree with this. Having host also means your BR is far more effective at long range and gives you a tremendous leg-up in SWAT games if you can abuse it. For instance if I get host I'll go into a sniper mentality where I avoid close and medium range encounters and only go for long range targets. It also gives you certain perks such as the death grenade. If you chuck a grenade the moment you die it'll explode and inflict damage to anyone in its blast range every time with absolutely no exception whereas if you don't have host and try the same thing the grenade almost always inflicts no damage.


That would explain why my grenade never hurts anybody when I throw it before I die. That is just down right stupid.

Snipe Swipe
-Keep the sniper out of his scope with a BR. If you're still getting sniped while shooting at distances then you're not actually hitting him. It sounds like you need to lead your shots.


It's hard to do that when you spawn with a SMG and even more impossible on most levels since it's spawn-kill city. You're basically a sitting target on most levels that are popular when doing MatchMaking.

Flag capture cheats
-I don't get why you don't adopt a new strategy to counter this. Just live and learn.


It's hard to adopt a new strategy when they grab the flag a good distance away from the actual flag spot. It would be like if I could steal your TV from your front door step. You can guard the TV all you want, but it won't stop me from stealing it.

Grenades
-Grenades don't home. Some people are just better at spamming them accurately.


I find it hard to believe that people can accurately throw their grenades at me from across the map and have them explode on contact. People have thrown grenades at me from 3 feet away and once they hit me, they explode. Same has happen from point-blank range and even from across the map.

Super Lunging, Sticky Grenades and rockets
-It honestly sounds like lag. Regardless of your connection speed you can still have lag because of a bad host.


So you're saying that every game I have ever played has massive log due to a bad host? Yeah, that isn't possible.

Battle Rifle
-This weapon's too important to remove. But if someone can perfectly time eight button pushes and trigger pulls together in the heat of battle I'm going to let him have the kill. It doesn't happen to me that often to be honest about it. You lost me here on getting shot over the shoulder and below their knee. That makes no sense. And what difference does it make where the shot came from?


Every team I play has at least 2-3/4 that can double-shot and quad-shot while moving around, jumping, side-to-side, jump-crouch, and every other move you can think of. If you look when somebody double-shots, the bullets don't always come out from the gun. I have had it where they come from over the players shoulders AND down by their knee at the same time. That means if you jump to avoid them, you'll get hit and if you duck to avoid them, you'll get hit. Either way, you're screwed.

Reload Glitch
-Don't miss in the first place.


Yes, because it's possible to be 100% accurate with every weapon in the game.

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Posted by: horrormaster34
Posted by: Grumpy2
I didn't state that facts = trolling, you did. You have no credibility since you insist that you would never lose if it wasn't for cheaters. I still don't see facts, only opinions.

If you had stayed in this thread I would not have called you a troll. Instead, you went into another thread and disrupted that thread on purpose. For that, you are a troll.


I state facts and you call that trolling, therefore stating facts = trolling. Every game I have played that the other team wasn't cheating, I have won. Sorry, but that's a fact. What you fail to see is that because the game is ridden with a player base that is 99% cheaters, the amount of games I play against non-cheaters is extremely low. Because you are too stupid to ask the right questions, you fail to see that it's really easy to play maybe 20 games against non-cheaters and too have never lost.

You also continue to say that I have to state a fact. Again, that means you believe that there are no glitches on Halo 2. Every post you make you keep repeating that statement. EVERY person that has ever played Halo 2 online knows the game has dozens of glitches. The fact that you keep denying the existence of any glitches is just down right stupid.
Player base that's 99% cheaters? I've come to the conclusion that you are a complete idiot. Still no facts, and that's a fact. You write nonsense and think if you throw a WOT at us we have to believe you.

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I've played 17 games today of Team Training. Every team I faced was filled with cheaters except 3 players. So, lets do some basic math.

(17 games * 4 cheaters per team) - 3 non-cheaters = 65 cheaters out of 68 = ~96%

So, according to today alone, I was only off by 3%. I don't remember who on my team cheated or not, so I can't calculate that as well.

Again, you keep saying that everything I say isn't a fact. Again, that means you are saying there are NO GLITCHES on Halo 2. I love how you keep saying that even though EVERYBODY who has ever played Halo 2 knows that the game is filled with glitches. Even Bungie knew it and patched the game once in 2006.

You have to be some kind of idiot to actually believe that Halo 2 has ZERO GLITCHES.

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LMFAO! You are lying about the cheaters. So your whole statement about facts = no glitches is, again, nonsense. Same goes for your facts = troll crap. Still no facts, only your opinion, so you are still without substance. Prove that you were cheated because your word is not good enough.

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Posted by: Grumpy2
LMFAO! You are lying about the cheaters. So your whole statement about facts = no glitches is, again, nonsense. Same goes for your facts = troll crap. Still no facts, only your opinion, so you are still without substance. Prove that you were cheated because your word is not good enough.


Nope, not lying about cheaters. Bungie has stated on this very site that button glitching is cheating, which means Double-Shooting is cheating. Every team I face has double-shot the entire game.

See, you keep saying that Halo 2 contains ZERO GLITCHES. That means you're saying that people can't double-shot, superbounce, snipe swipe, etc. You're also saying that Bungie never patched Halo 2 back in 2006. It's a FACT that Halo 2 is filled with glitches.

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You are the one who keeps talking about zero glitches, not me. Keep up the whining, though, you're doing so well. I think you are just lousy at games. If you think you are going to change what we have, you are in fantasy land.

Also, I'm still witing for the proof that you only lose because of cheaters. Prove that a button glitcher cheated every time you lost. Come to think of it, that's a lot of losing you're doing if 9 out of 10 cheat you, as you claim.

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Posted by: Grumpy2
You are the one who keeps talking about zero glitches, not me. Keep up the whining, though, you're doing so well. I think you are just lousy at games. If you think you are going to change what we have, you are in fantasy land.


I guess I have to map this out for you since you're retarded.

1) I list a bunch of GLITCHES that Halo 2 has

2) You say that EVERYTHING I said wasn't a fact

3) This means that my list of GLITCHES was a lie, which means none of them exist in Halo 2

4) This means that you believe there aren't GLITCHES like Double-Shot, Quad-Shot, BxB, Superbounce, etc. in Halo 2

5) This would also mean you deny that Bungie patched Halo 2 in 2006 to get rid of bridging, standbying, and other numerous glitches.

Seriously, you need to either stay in school or go back to school and learn some basic reading comprehension.

I am not "whining", but instead you are just inferring that. Inferring = BAD because it often makes you look like an idiot. You can think I'm lousy all you want, fact is, when I play non-cheaters, I beat them. By saying that I'm lousy at games, you're saying that I'm lousy at all games, which means you believe I'm lousy at every game I have ever played even though I have beaten dozens of games and even placed in the top 10 in some Sports games on Xbox Live. When did I ever say I wanted to change what "we" had? Never, exactly. By the way, who is "we"? Are you just referring to yourself or a bunch imaginary people?

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You said you only lose when you are cheated.

You said 90% of the people who play H2 are cheaters.

Prove it.

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To horrormaster, please leave our forums, we have listened to your so called "truths", most of which are oppinion, yet whenever we, (people who reply to you) try to be open minded, and point out that some of the things you said isn't exactly true, you bash them for not seeing Halo 2 as a terrible game in every way possible.

I'm not trying to force you out of these forums, I just want you to leave, so I, along with anyone who still posts in this old forum in can do so in peace.

  • 08.03.2009 5:57 PM PDT

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Why anyone would troll this forum nearly 5 years after a game is released is beyond me. Halo 2 was by no means perfect but that is no reason to declare the entire fanbase "kids and cheaters". It certainly wasn't the worst game ever so I'm not sure what anyone can prove here.

In fact, I found that Halo 2 was one of the most fun games ever BECAUSE of all these problems that the OP has mentioned. Flaws = glitches = frustration/fun = good memories.

Halo 2 for 4 life!

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Posted by: Kasith
To horrormaster, please leave our forums, we have listened to your so called "truths", most of which are oppinion, yet whenever we, (people who reply to you) try to be open minded, and point out that some of the things you said isn't exactly true, you bash them for not seeing Halo 2 as a terrible game in every way possible.

I'm not trying to force you out of these forums, I just want you to leave, so I, along with anyone who still posts in this old forum in can do so in peace.

Couldn't agree with you more, K. I think this is a case of, "Cool story, Bro" being absolutely applicable. (For once.) I certainly will take every opportunity to do so, and encourage others to do the same. There is nothing to be gained in flaming our memories, and we should respond as cognizant gentlemen in all things.

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  • 08.03.2009 6:28 PM PDT

This is actually the stupidest thing ever posted on B.net:

Posted by: the omega man117
Why does everyone hate Halo 2? Maybe its because its the worst game ever next to mario.

horrormaster34, what are you exactly trying to do here? Halo 2 has Button Glitches, Superbounces, Snipe Swiping and whining idiots like you. So?

WHAT DO YOU WANT? You are simply complaining about Halo 2's faults, who gives a -blam!-? We don't care if you play Matchmaking ever again you stupid idiot. You come to these forums to type up a blog of why your so Butt Hurt when playing Halo 2. It is obvious that you get owned online, so you come to these forums to spill your heart out because you cannot enjoy Halo 2 Multiplayer without people "cheating" on you.

There is nothing to prove here man, you're just a whining S.O.B who wants attention on the H2 Forums, which you have accomplished by crying about Halo 2's faults. It is a 5-year old game and nothing that you listed is going to get fixed, so deal with it.

Do you here that? Do...Do You hear that?

IT'S THE WAAAAAMBULANCE! WAAA! WAA!

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Yup.


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okay horror,

why does this post not make sense? Name a perfect game without glitches, user-errors, and whats more name an ONLINE game that doesn't have lag.

Fact:Halo 2 has flaws.
Fact:Halo 2 is a fun game. Despite its flaws that All online games share.
Fact:Argueing these facts is useless, and so is complaining about a game's flaws, it solves nothing. Bungie is not looking to improve upon Halo 2.

good day sir.



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I love this forum.

  • 08.03.2009 9:02 PM PDT

Im Down, Im Brown, and im comin' to your town!

2 in the pink 1 in da stink!

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i agree with some of your points horror, but i just deal with it the best way i can. and if that means leaving the game when my team quits and im the only one left than ill do it. (my rambo days are over) but yeah annnyways you make valid statements in some ways but its all part of the package man. this game gives me a good time every night and for the fifty bucks i paid for it five years ago thats saying lot..

  • 08.07.2009 8:09 AM PDT

The reason you're getting cheated every game is because dying by grenades or getting sniped is cheating to you. I have played a lot more games than you and I would put the hardcore cheaters at 2% and button glitchers at 25%.

Believe it or not there are people much more competent at playing the game than you that could easily smash you without any glitches whatsoever.

  • 08.07.2009 9:45 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

This thread is messed up, Most only apply to halo 3 and some to h2v (doing nothing, hackers) but dont go in a forum ON THE GAME MAKERS SITE being like "omg this game sux".

  • 08.07.2009 11:12 AM PDT

I am an avid gamer with a passion to keep games fun and strategy provoking, rather than simply button mashing instant-reward games that plague the market nowadays. I'm not kind, but I'm rational, fair, and maybe, just maybe, somewhat intelligent.

This thread provides the lulz.

Horror seems to forget that he can do all the stuff he posted about. He can glitch, cheat, whatever if he wanted to. He's just being a drama queen seeking attention. I think he might be on his period.

Frankly, we don't care if you do not like the game. If you don't like the food, don't go to the restaurant. Simple as that. Let's break down your points shall we.

1) I can win despite the other team being host. You have to improvise and start thinking on your toes. Host does not decide the game, however yes, it has a major influence.

2) Yes the lunging is a little ridiculous at times. The trick is to run forward and lunge, and even jump if you need to, that is how you get those far lunges.

3) I think sweep sniping is good and bad. But here's some advice for you, don't let the enemy get the sniper. If that is unavoidable, deal with it. Get smart and try and kill him. I rarely get sniped in any Halo games because the way I move. Try and be unpredictable towards the enemy so they have a less chance of sniping you.

4) I have to somewhat agree that the super bounces ruin the game. They're only fun in customs. Perhaps you should learn to super jump perfectly so you can go get that guy who is ruining the fun for you. Don't sit there and complain, do something about it.

5) Yes the unbalanced teams sucks, but hey, there's this game called Halo 3, and they fixed this. Maybe you should check it out.

6) Try shooting at the enemy when they grab the flag since you are near them. Or better yet, learn to camp your flag a little better.

7) Some people are really good with grenades, as for the splash damage through the rock/cover, I have never experienced this but I can assure you that some part of the splash damage did in face directly hit you.

8) This is a glitch that happens in Halo 2 and Halo 3. It happens due to lag, there's nothing that can be done about it. Unless everyone gets a T1 connection.

9) This happens in Halo 3 as well. It's just another latency/lag issue that is caused by bad connections are clashing connections.

10) The Battle Rifle is THE weapon to use. Most games have a versatile weapon because it would simply be a pain to use 2 or maybe 3 weapons for different ranges. Other weapons exist however, to utilize a certain area of combat. Such as the sword is a god for close range if you learn to master it. As for glitches, learn them or get better at countering them. Simple as that. The glitches evolved Halo 2's multi-player for the better. It allowed people to be clutch and pull of ridiculous things.

11) This glitch is good because it cuts down the reload time. When you reload, you are pretty much defenseless.

12) Learn to properly counter this by getting a weapon that will kill the gunner effectively.

13) This happens in every game. Deal with it. Besides, you can't tell a child what he can and cannot play.

14) This happens in every game. Deal with it. Besides, you can't tell a child what he can and cannot play.

15) The maps that are used the most are the ones the excel in most areas that make a good map. That is why they are used the most.

16) Bungie is a very busy company. They are quite small compared to their main "competitors." They do not have the free time to go in and fix the glitches. Besides, the glitches themselves were actually loved so why take something away that a lot of the community loved.

Now if you'll excuse me, I am off to go publish this novel.

  • 08.07.2009 1:00 PM PDT