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By your account, you make it seem like every Halo 2 player except you uses cheats. Very few do any more; what is the point of cheating in a five year old game with very few people playing, and no stat support on Bungie.net?

Why can all these people get amazing boosts, with large radius grenades, invincible Warthog gunners, and so on whilst you are normal?

Perhaps you just aren't very good at the game, and that's why you get killed a lot. Perhaps you play with a dial up connection, and have terrible lag. Perhaps you're just a troll.

My short answer: Get Halo 3. If you can't afford it or a 360, then tough, that's not Bungie's problem, it's yours.

Halo 2 is a game riddled with bugs and problems. Most don't care though, I only play Halo 2 for the feeling of nostalgia, Halo 3 is my main game.

  • 08.07.2009 3:24 PM PDT

Reading this made me feel like my metaphorical spaceship crashed onto exaggeration station.

  • 08.07.2009 4:37 PM PDT

Posted by: Gig4t3ch
No, I'm straight though. If I were ga.y and making out with other guys then it would be ga.y. But because I'm straight it's not ga.y. Since I'm not doing it for a emotional interest or -blam!- pleasure it's not ga.y.

Posted by: horrormaster34
...I will continue to speak the truth about this horrid game that is only played by cheaters and children.



Which one are you?

  • 08.11.2009 1:48 PM PDT

*Facepalm*
and what gun doesn't tear though flesh? a squirt gun?

Forklifts don’t die. They’re just missing in action.

Pooping isn't something I enjoy, nor is it something that takes time. I get in there, drop the packages, then get out. I'm like UPS. What can brown do for you?

Posted by: JB 199
we don't take kindly to you bashing halo 2. it is still one of the greatest games ever made. it revolutionized online gaming on console games and took gaming to new heights. without halo 2 their wouldn't be a halo 3.
damn right

  • 08.11.2009 5:46 PM PDT
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It really just seems lie you have the WORST life EVER..... Never forget there is always the option of suicide!

  • 08.11.2009 10:03 PM PDT

"Nothing means nothing, but it isn't really nothing because nothing is something that isn't." - From The Lexicon of Stupidity by Ross & Kathryn Petras

Posted by: horrormaster34
Stating facts =/= complaining

Your opinion =/= fact

By the way, are you going to stop me from playing Halo 2 or stating facts about it? Are you going to make shut up? I didn't think so. Until you can, I will continue to speak the truth about this horrid game that is only played by cheaters and children.


Let me get this straight. You obviously play Halo 2, which makes you either a cheater or a child. So why are you complaining?

[Edited on 08.11.2009 11:12 PM PDT]

  • 08.11.2009 11:10 PM PDT
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It's good to see people posting with spirit in good old H2 but the OP hasn't posted in 8 days and is probably gone for good.

  • 08.11.2009 11:29 PM PDT

A mystery to be solved.

-blam!- why shold i be banned im ten

  • 08.13.2009 2:21 PM PDT

A mystery to be solved.

why does it say blam dammit

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Posted by: horrormaster34
1) Host Advantage

Shotgun and Swords is completely broken due to this. If your team doesn't have the host, you will lose 90% of the time. I have been shot and killed with the shotgun from a good 70 feet away, while mine won't even cause damage. Why? Because being the host means you win.


2) Super Lunging

People on this game will lunge and hit me from around 15-20 feet away with any weapon. I can only do a standard lunge at best. It doesn't matter who I'm facing, they will always shoot me up a bit and then lunge 20 feet to kill me, even when they're crouching or jumping.


3) Snipe Swipe

Facing a sniper is pointless when they can snipe swipe. The fact that they can even do this is just horrible programming. If I'm running, all they have to do is swing their gun and fire, a good majority of the time they will hit me, even if I have taken cover behind a building or rock.


4) Super Bounces

These have killed numerous games for me. I have had a entire team super bounce on Turf with the Flag, which makes killing them impossible. Not only that, but they stayed up there and I was forced to quit because they were given an infinite amount of "sudden death" time. Super Bounces also ruin Zanzibar when the bouncer has the battle rifle or sniper rifle. It makes it near impossible to kill them since they just move to the back of the base so hitting them is impossible.


5) Unbalanced Teams

I can't even count the amount of times I have played team training to find the other team to be stacked with players over level 30 while my team was all under level 10. What should have been done is that once you hit level 20, you can only play ranked games. People over level 20 are just playing team training games to bully not-so-experienced players. There's also the problem when they let team based matches (flag and bomb) be a 4 vs. 3 affair. This may be fine when it's something like Team Slayer, Shotguns, Swords, etc., but it makes the game unfair because the team with 4 can easily send one to grab the flag or plant the bomb while the other 3 go out for killing. The team with 3 on the other hand gets screwed by having one less person and one less attacker.


6) Flag Capture Cheats

Picture this, you're playing capture the flag on Elongation and you're right on top of your flag so nobody can capture it without getting through you. Now, a guy across from you (where the ramp begins and at the bottom is the battle rifle) takes the flag right from underneath you. Same crape has happen to me when playing Capture The Flag on Turf. It makes guarding the actual flag/bomb spot pointless.


7) Grenades

I have no idea when this became the "go to" weapon for any cheater, but it is. For one, they seem to home onto me and my team. Yes, the actually home. How do I know? Simple, when a person is able to throw either grenades from anywhere on the map and have them ALWAYS either stick you or land at your feet, they are homing. Secondly, their explosion radius seems to vary. If I throw any grenade, it explodes its expected amount. If somebody throws it against me and my team, they explode big enough to hurt me. I have had grenades explode from 15 feet away, through a giant boulder, and almost kill me. Third, the fuse is variable. Mine will explode most of the time on key, but a good portion of the time they will either not explode at all or they sit there on the ground for 10 seconds while the other players just walk passed it, and then it will explode. Grenades also don't even bounce right. If you throw a something like a grenade overhand and it hits an incline plain (70 degrees lets say), the grenade will never stop in its tracks. That has happen to me before. A person throws a grenade, hits a nice incline and just sticks there (no not a stick grenade, a regular one). Physics will tell you that it would follow the incline to the bottom point where it would settle, but not in Halo 2.


8) Stick Grenades

This is pretty simple, if I throw a stick grenade at your chest and it hits you, you should be stuck. Not the case at all it seems. For me, the stick grenade will either go right through the person or it won't explode at all. I have actually stuck somebody in the head before I died and watched on my screen to only see my grenade completely disappear. Great, it just cost me a kill and possibly the game. The other problem with stick grenades is that most of the time they stick the air around the player. How can a stick grenade stick air? Somebody please explain that to me.


9) Rockets

Honestly, rockets make zero sense in Halo 2. If I shoot a rocket at point blank range, I die. If the other person dies, is a game of chance. Some times the other person will die, which makes perfect sense, but other times, he will survive. How in the world does somebody with no shield survive a rocket that hit them at point blank range? If the opponent fires their rocket at point blank range, I will die and they will only die around 5% of the time. Again, how does that even make a lick of sense? The other problem with rockets is the backsplash variable. A guy is right up against a wall and I fire a rocket hitting the wall behind them, they don't die. I'm 10 feet away from the wall and a guy fires a rocket to the wall behind me, I die. Again, it makes no sense.


10) Battle Rifle

This weapon is the single thing that ruins the game completely. Even with all the other problems, the game would still be playable without the Battle Rifle. If somebody uses the Double Shot glitch, they are practically two people because they are firing twice at once and never have to reload. If you can't double shot, you're screwed against these people. It takes 4 shots to the head for you, 2 for them. If they can Quad Shot, you might as well put the controller down. The BXR glitch also gives the player an unfair advantage since they can kill you in one hit at close range while it still takes you more than one. Again, against somebody that can BXR, you're going to lose more than half the time. There's also the fact that shooting makes no sense. If you pay attention, the bullets actually fire from different places. I have been double shot before when the shot came from over their shoulder and below their knee. Know what that means? If you jump or crouch, you will get hit either way. You can also seem to shoot across an entire map when double shooting causing maximum damage, which violates the laws of physics.


11) Reload Glitch

This also ruins the game because in a fire fight, if both players have to reload and one of them knows the reload glitch, you will lose. This applies to all weapons, but especially rockets and battle rifle. If you're playing team rockets and both players fire two rockets and miss, you both have to reload. If the other knows the reload glitch, you're screwed and he'll unleash two more rockets before you get done reloading.


12) Warthog Gunner

If you stick the warthog on its passenger side, it has a good chance of killing the driver, but not the gunner. Now, that part makes sense due to the distance and material between the two. If you throw a stick grenade and stick the bumper or even the gunner itself, the gunner will live. I have yet to actually kill the gunner when sticking the gunner the first time. It always takes 2 or 3 grenades to kill the gunner. So let me get this straight, if you stick a person, he dies, but if you stick a person while on the warthog gunner, he lives? Halo 2, you always seem to amaze me and defy the laws of physics and nature.


13) Threats & Harassment

I have no idea what is wrong with the people that play this game on Xbox Live, but they are messed up in the head. There a few people that actually harass me and my team whenever in the same game. They will repeat the same thing over and over again to everybody that comes into the room, mic or no mic. There is one guy in particular who started the game off by shooting me up, trying to team-kill me. I return the favor and fired back. He then said he would "hack my IP and my internet would be gone in 5 minutes". If that isn't a threat, I don't know what is. I also played against a team of 14 or 15 year olds on Colossus. I recorded 25 kills against them, including a running riot. I used the Battle Riffle and didn't once glitch with it. At the end of the game he said he would "report me because there is no way I could get 25 kills without cheating".


14) Underage & Cursing

I honestly don't know the age limit off-hand, but I have played with dozens of kids that were 12 or younger. Heck, I once played against an 8 year old. The only thing worse than an underage kid, is a kid in general that must use every 4 letter word in the book and call everybody in every game the N word. Even though those are bad, the absolute worse is a person who is 25+ years old and still acts like a kid (cursing, team killing, "your mom" jokes, crude language, racial remarks, etc.) just because they are covered by the anonymity that is the internet.


15) Unused Maps

Last time I checked there were 20+ maps that can be chosen from. Fact is, only a hand full of them are actually played. I honestly have only played on half of them at least once and maybe half of those more than a dozen or so times. Think about that now, I have played on only 8 or so of the maps more than a dozen times in 3+ years since all the maps have been out. In those 3+ years I have played probably hundreds of games.


16) Doing Nothing About It

Any great gaming community would have done something about all this. They would have patched the problems and banned the cheaters right away. Right from the start, Bungie did nothing. They banned only moders and introduced more glitches than they fixed.




Cool story bro...

  • 08.14.2009 12:22 AM PDT
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Posted by: horrormaster34
Stating facts =/= complaining

Your opinion =/= fact

By the way, are you going to stop me from playing Halo 2 or stating facts about it? Are you going to make shut up? I didn't think so. Until you can, I will continue to speak the truth about this horrid game that is only played by cheaters and children.
Only cheaters and children, hmmmm?
Then you must be one of them, as you so clearly stated you played the game. And if it's so horrid, go to 4chan or something and complain. Hell, go be a CoD fanboy on their forums.
Don't share your banter and nonsense here.
GTFO my forums.
Peace.

  • 08.14.2009 12:04 PM PDT
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YOUR forum? Are you really claiming this forum as yours? Did you create this forum? Do you pay the server bills for it? If this was YOUR forum, why don't you ban me then? You obviously could if it was YOUR forum. Next time, might want to choose your words more wisely.

  • 08.16.2009 8:17 PM PDT
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Why do you linger here? You already stated your oppinions, why don't you play halo 1, or play halo 3? They are different games you may enjoy, I suggest you try to forget about Halo 2, and let us love our game, and post in these old forums in peace.

  • 08.16.2009 10:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: Kasith
Why do you linger here? You already stated your oppinions, why don't you play halo 1, or play halo 3? They are different games you may enjoy, I suggest you try to forget about Halo 2, and let us love our game, and post in these old forums in peace.
He's just a troll doing his job. He's not very good though, according to the definition of an 'Internet Troll'.

  • 08.16.2009 10:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Grumpy2
Posted by: Kasith
Why do you linger here? You already stated your oppinions, why don't you play halo 1, or play halo 3? They are different games you may enjoy, I suggest you try to forget about Halo 2, and let us love our game, and post in these old forums in peace.
He's just a troll doing his job. He's not very good though, according to the definition of an 'Internet Troll'.


Perhaps, but the fact that he only posts here gives me the feeling he probably came from the halo2sucks site.

  • 08.16.2009 10:46 PM PDT
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You might be right, he came from somewhere unseemly.

  • 08.16.2009 10:52 PM PDT

Join Planet Reach
Hog sniping
Exalted is considered "the highest" because you can't get any bans or warnings of any kind for quite a long time, which is harder than just being a member for a long time.

Posted by: horrormaster34
1) Host Advantage


This is where I stopped reading...

Why do you call it host advantage when it has been explained before that off-host actually is the one with the advantage?

  • 08.17.2009 9:05 AM PDT
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1) CSS has dedicated servers. Which means there doesn't need to be a host. Also it's a PC game. We are talking about xbox here...
2) You have never been lunged at from 15 feet away. There you go exaggerating AGAIN. Without video proof no one will believe you...
3) Why are you always the victim in these situations. Do you think the game is trying to make you mad. You are just as capable as doing WHATEVER the other person is. You just are not as skilled as him. It's not the games fault, it's yours..
4) I'm glad there is only 1 super bounce that can break you out of a map. And that is in fact on turf. And anyone can do it. It's really not that hard..
5) That is the fact. No one 25 or up is going to play ranked because they are not going to find any games...
6) You can't mod in MM. If you enter a MM game with a modded map you will be instantly disconnected from live. It's the new system that Bungie has installed to keep modders out of MM... And you don't need a mod chip to mod...
7) Just because you can play CSS on a DEDICATED SERVER doesn't mean you don't lag...
8) see 7...
9) see 7... Ohh and I couldn't imagine illogical physics in a game that takes place on a ring planet where you fight aliens in a 10 ton super human suit.... You're an idiot.
10) I have been playing Halo 2 since the day it was released. And I think I have played with maybe 2 people that have a double shot controller... You obviously haven't played COD... And I don't know what your smoking, but if you can play claw then you deserve to be able to double shot. I have also only played with about 3 people that I know for a fact play claw. You just suck at halo..
11) The "relaod cheat" isn't hard to do at all. You only have to press YY... If you are incapable of doing that then your whole argument is invalid because that means you fail at halo..
12) That's weird because for everyone else besides you that sticks the gunner, he dies.. Hmm, again you must be special enough that the game is conspiring against you..
13) There is no law against kids playing the game as long as their parents by them. With you being "25" I thought someone like you should know this. I know it and I'm 19...
14) See 13... And yeah there is freedom of speech you idiot. Saying your a douche bag(which is true) isn't against the law. It's not a hate crime, and it isn't starting a riot or uprising. Which means it's not against the law... Don't talk about things that you have no idea about.. And the report language button is for racial slurs... Which classifies as a hate crime...
15) Again halo 2 is conspiring against you. When I play BTB I get maps like Headlong, Containment, waterworks and so on. I get Lockout about every 6 games...
16) No nothing need to be done because everything has already been done. Modders can't play MM. Bungie can't stop people from standbying and host booting, and double shots, bx combos, and the YY glitch are not cheats. They are glitches you idiot. You are just as capable of using them as everyone else... stop trying to come off as moral and logical because from judging from what you typed you are neither one...

What I have gotten from your argument is that you completely suck at Halo 2. That is the only thing wrong with the game. You are not good at it. Sorry there is no Update that will make you better, so my advice is just stop playing because you're an illogical moronic man who has no idea as to what is happening around him...

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1) It doesn't matter if it's Xbox, PC, or any other console/gaming platform. The simple fact that one player has an advantage over the rest right from the start is wrong.

2) Yes, I have. Just because you don't believe it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Do you think I care if people believe me or not?

3) Sorry, but instead of spending 8+ hours a day practicing glitches, level layouts, superbounces, etc. I actual like to do constructed things with the majority of my free time. The better somebody is at a video game, the less of a life they have (read: you're a major loser and should kill yourself).

4) Again, instead of looking up superbounces and practicing them for hours so I can do it 100% of the time, I would rather use the majority of my free time to do something productive.

5) That is why they should have locked team training at a certain level. People would probably just de-level, but that would only prove that they are worthless and have no life.

6) I never said anything about map mods. You can still use mods on Xbox Live and it's incredibly easy to do so.

7 & 8) So then please how I can get pings in the 20's on all PC games that I play online, but, according to you people, I lag in every game I have ever played on Halo 2? I never lagged when playing other Xbox games, but I somehow lag on every Halo 2 game I've ever played. Yeah, don't think so. Try harder next time.

9) It just isn't the fact that the game has illogical physics, it's the fact that the game doesn't even make sense in it's universe. There is hardly anything in this game that is constant and reliable.

10) A good 90+% of everybody I play double-shots. They double-shot while jumping, crouching, moving side-to-side, looking in all directions, etc., etc., etc. In short, they can do everything while double-shooting.

11) Again, see #3. I also refuse to glitches because I don't cheat. Glitching is cheating and I would rather play the game the way it was meant to be played. Cheating only proves that you aren't good enough to win playing fair. If you were, you wouldn't have a reason to cheat. Once you cheat, you automatically lose. It's as simple as that.

12) If I could capture the game, I would post it. If either me or my team sticks the opposing team on the warthog gunner, the gunner lives. The most that happens is the warthog flips or he gets ejected from the gunner. Again, just because you don't believe it doesn't mean it isn't true.

13) When did I ever say I was 25? Assuming things just makes you look like a fool in the end. Assuming = bad.

14) You do realize you contradicted yourself, right? First you say that you have freedom of speech. Then you say that racial slurs are a hate crime. If you truly had freedom of speech you could say ANYTHING you want without repercussion. NOBODY has true freedom of speech.

15) You said it, not me.

16) You just admitted earlier that you know people that have double-shot controllers. Guess what? Those are MODDED controllers. You can use those on Xbox Live, which proves that modders can play matchmaking. Glitches are cheating. It was even said on this sight by Bungie that glitches are cheating.

Again, your OPINION =/= FACT. You really need to go back to Elementary School and learn that. You can say I suck all you want, but the fact is, you need to CHEAT to win, I don't. I play the game the way it was meant to be played. I also have an actual life and spend the majority of my free time doing productive things. Sorry that I don't have 8+ hours a day to practice glitches for a video game.

  • 08.17.2009 11:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: horrormaster34
You can say I suck all you want, but the fact is, you need to CHEAT to win, I don't.


How can you prove that he's a cheater? Remember, assuming things just makes you look like a fool in the end.

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Selective statistics would suggest that he double-shots, which is cheating.

  • 08.18.2009 9:37 AM PDT

There are those who said this day would never come.... What are they to say now?

Oh noes! somebody call the Waaaaaaaaaambulance.

If you don't like the game as it is - Don't play it. Put the game down. Move on with your life.
Don't carry on about it.
Halo 2 was (and still is) one of the best-selling FPS games to date and I'm sure that the majority of people still love playing it on a regular basis.

Simples.

  • 08.19.2009 8:22 AM PDT

Owning Noobs Since 05

"I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming in terror like his passengers."

Jim Harkins

That's your opinion and hey guess what!? Don't like it? Don't play nobody is forcing you to play it.

  • 08.19.2009 10:04 AM PDT
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Halo: Out with a whimper
A fan made kick ass 2D Halo.

"The crunch on Halo 2 was, 'Oh my god, we're f***ed. We're all going to die.'" ~ Chris Carney

I agree with mr OP's number 15, it feels like half my matches are on relic and I don't like Relic! XD

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Ha-ha. Good work, Grumpy. But this troll seems to be made of sterner stuff than anyone would've thought. Gary Gygax would be proud. Or ashamed. Keep feeding it, everyone. Whatever you do, keep feeding it.

  • 08.20.2009 6:09 PM PDT