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Subject: Will Reach appeal to more mature audiences?
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Instead of the 6-12 year olds Halo is pointed towards now? It's rated M for mature...but i feel alot more like T for teen. Will Reach actually have a cuss word here and there? Instead of the lame/cheesy dialogue presented with the H2-H3 marines? Oh,,, and maybe the brutes/elites will have a little bit more intimidating dialogue instead of crap like..."You killed my lover?"

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  • 07.30.2009 3:25 PM PDT

I hope so.

  • 07.30.2009 3:27 PM PDT
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I want realistic gore. Something on the scale of Gears of War in detail but not as over the top. A shotgun could blow a hole in someone or blow a limb off, it would be detailed but the person wouldn't explode into 5,000,000 pieces like in Gears.

  • 07.30.2009 3:30 PM PDT
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i really hope so more blood gore heads exploding lololol

  • 07.30.2009 3:37 PM PDT

Lol. Cursing and gore only appeals to 12 year old boys, and man children. Please go somewhere else. Also, there is cursing in some of the dialogue. You just haven't heard most of the dialogue yet, because they have over 35000 dialogue snippets that only appear based on certain triggers, or at random. It's people like you who complain about the humor in Goldeneye, Perfect Dark or Timesplitters. How about you join the Navy with the rest of your redneck or ghetto friends and curse up a storm after some sailor buttsecks?

We don't need Grunt's saying serious things. On the other hand it would add greatly to the experience if they gave the Marines some more down to Earth dialogue more suiting to the mood. We need medics working on other marines like in the E3 demo for Halo 2.

[Edited on 07.30.2009 3:51 PM PDT]

  • 07.30.2009 3:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: disgruntledfan2
Lol. Cursing and gore only appeals to 12 year old boys, and man children. Please go somewhere else. Also, there is cursing in some of the dialogue. You just haven't heard most of the dialogue yet, because they have over 35000 dialogue snippets that only appear based on certain triggers, or at random. It's people like you who complain about the humor in Goldeneye, Perfect Dark or Timesplitters. How about you join the Navy with the rest of your redneck or ghetto friends and curse up a storm after some sailor buttsecks?

We don't need Grunt's saying serious things. On the other hand it would add greatly to the experience if they gave the Marines some more down to Earth dialogue more suiting to the mood. We need medics working on other marines like in the E3 demo for Halo 2.


Gore makes kills more satisfying. There is nothing better than a headshot in Gears of War. You don't have to be 12 to like gore. Way to make up fake stereotypes. LOL at join the Navy, what is it the 40's STFU. Realistic cursing would actually ad to the games overall feel of helplessness for the UNSC and humanity. The marines always being cheerful makes the story seem less real. The IWHBYD skull would still exist for funny dialog but the game wouldn't be so cheerful.

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  • 07.30.2009 4:00 PM PDT

Posted by: disgruntledfan2
How about you join the Navy with the rest of your redneck or ghetto friends and curse up a storm after some sailor buttsecks?


most interesting thing i've read all day.

  • 07.30.2009 4:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: Geneticz
Instead of the 6-12 year olds Halo is pointed towards now? It's rated M for mature...but i feel alot more like T for teen. Will Reach actually have a cuss word here and there? Instead of the lame/cheesy dialogue presented with the H2-H3 marines? Oh,,, and maybe the brutes/elites will have a little bit more intimidating dialogue instead of crap like..."You killed my lover?"

No. Revive your old thread instead of making another crappy one.

explain to me how beiong stupid points something twoards children? that's like calling Family Guy or Robot Chicken a kids show.

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  • 07.30.2009 4:04 PM PDT
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Well I sure hope so, kids shouldn't even be playing Halo.

  • 07.30.2009 4:06 PM PDT

PM from Equus Asinus: "Calling me a moron for somthing wich you have no part in is stupid. Maybe if you used proper grammer I would feel you as a threat. But, I think you owe me an apology."

I doubt that it will affect who plays the game. I'm sure that it appeals more to older folks since they have a higher chance of having read the book(s).

The Fall of Reach is hands down one of my favorites of all time and has made all Halo games that much more interesting and fun to play for me.

  • 07.30.2009 4:10 PM PDT

You are lame...

I could really care less about what the target market is for Reach as long my friends and I enjoy it.

  • 07.30.2009 4:10 PM PDT

Posted by: disgruntledfan2
Lol. Cursing and gore only appeals to 12 year old boys, and man children. Please go somewhere else. Also, there is cursing in some of the dialogue. You just haven't heard most of the dialogue yet, because they have over 35000 dialogue snippets that only appear based on certain triggers, or at random. It's people like you who complain about the humor in Goldeneye, Perfect Dark or Timesplitters. How about you join the Navy with the rest of your redneck or ghetto friends and curse up a storm after some sailor buttsecks?

We don't need Grunt's saying serious things. On the other hand it would add greatly to the experience if they gave the Marines some more down to Earth dialogue more suiting to the mood. We need medics working on other marines like in the E3 demo for Halo 2.

truth

  • 07.30.2009 4:10 PM PDT

BOOM DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cussing is imature, idiotic, stupid, and makes you seem pure evil!!!!!!

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Cussing is imature, idiotic, stupid, and makes you seem pure evil!!!!!!




*Looks around website*
I agree..

  • 07.30.2009 4:12 PM PDT
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Grown men that have watched their friends die and seen billions of humans wiped out in the name of saving some old alien's dignity are not going to hold back in the heat of war. And i have to agree that gore and potential cruelty could really add to experience a brute that has been stuck with a spike grenade is most definitely going to be left as a limp ragdoll. They would be little Gears of War chunks. And putting things in that may be very explicit but real could make the game alot more mature and believable. like a jackal that got caught in the blast radius of a grenade screeching in pain and holding its charred stump of a leg. then a marine walks up, looks away and pumps a shotgun shell into its head to stop the noise. Whilst i admire and commend all off Bungie's work, swearing and realistic believable disturbing gore would make the game alot more involving and would suck the gamer in alot more

  • 08.04.2009 5:01 AM PDT

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This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
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The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

I hope so, but in Halo3 Spanish version the marines say ''Son of a -blam!-'' in spanish.

I hope we get some Johnson in there too with his never failing bad ass lines.


Yeah Elites should go Woort Woort Woort again.

  • 08.04.2009 5:04 AM PDT

Touchdown! Hit it Marines!!

I want a more mature Halo title. But it still wouldn't appeal to more mature audiences.

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I think by default the dialog would be serious but with the IWHBYD skull it would return to being funny.

Realistic gore would be nice. Gore could be turned of in the options menu.

Serious amounts of cursing, not Marines saying "-blam!- -blam!- -blam!- -blam!- -blam!-" every 30 seconds but the kind of language you would hear if people were dying all around you.

[Edited on 08.04.2009 5:47 AM PDT]

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Posted by: Geneticz
Instead of the 6-12 year olds Halo is pointed towards now? It's rated M for mature...but i feel alot more like T for teen. Will Reach actually have a cuss word here and there? Instead of the lame/cheesy dialogue presented with the H2-H3 marines? Oh,,, and maybe the brutes/elites will have a little bit more intimidating dialogue instead of crap like..."You killed my lover?"

No. Revive your old thread instead of making another crappy one.

explain to me how beiong stupid points something twoards children? that's like calling Family Guy or Robot Chicken a kids show.

You must live in a cave if you don't think that atleast Halo 2 and Halo 3 (Halo: CE deserved its M even though the ESRB only rated M because of the Flood but I see other reasons) should be T rated. There is little to no gore (atleast in Halo 3) and the Marines have really voices that are only there for comic relief (Halo 3 again). I have now come to my conclusion that MSoft wants Halo to appeal to all gamers, even casual crowd, so after Reach, don't get your hopes up for a good Halo game. Also, if the blood, cursing, and gore were in the same context as lets say Call of Duty: World At War, then yes I would welcome it since it gave us the cruel reality that war is not fun and that it is dark and gritty. Gears of War's style of the things mentioned above though: get ready for another onslaught of 6-12 year olds.

  • 08.04.2009 6:05 AM PDT

I am of an open mind and I am willing to hear criticism. Also: That's stupid and you're stupid.

Posted by: disgruntledfan2
Lol. Cursing and gore only appeals to 12 year old boys, and man children. Please go somewhere else. Also, there is cursing in some of the dialogue. You just haven't heard most of the dialogue yet, because they have over 35000 dialogue snippets that only appear based on certain triggers, or at random. It's people like you who complain about the humor in Goldeneye, Perfect Dark or Timesplitters.

We don't need Grunt's saying serious things. On the other hand it would add greatly to the experience if they gave the Marines some more down to Earth dialogue more suiting to the mood. We need medics working on other marines like in the E3 demo for Halo 2.


Agreed.

  • 08.04.2009 8:35 AM PDT
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I think he has a point, cuz mostly little kid play halo, even in my school they kept saying that Halo is a Baby game compared to Gears, i bought Gears a few days ago, and yeah, there right, if you ask me i think there is NO GORE in halo, Halo 3 should have been rated T, they only rated it M cuz of the Un-realistic blood that comes out when you shoot, i would like a little more gore, so then it can start bringing in older people, like for real there are 6-12 year olds playing Halo, like yesterday a Random little kid wanted me to be his friend and 2 play with him cuz his custom games were going to be Awesome and cool, yeah "LITTLE KIDS" arent suppose to be playing Halo, if you ask me, Halo should have been rated T for Teens!

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  • 08.04.2009 8:49 AM PDT
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What about the inbred house potatoes?!


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If anything adding in Gears of War like gore would attract more little kids, not less.

  • 08.04.2009 8:58 AM PDT

You seem to think that you know better than all the hundreds of thousands of people that love halo for what it is. To be honest, gore would absolutely destroy halo to the point where I mightn't even buy it. Sure, you might talk about how headshots in Gears are satisfying, but only until you realise that its the same every single time; then it just becomes clumsy and distracts you from the gameplay. The lack of gore makes halo fun and charminh, rather than screaming about how manly and serious it is. And the problem with gore is that its a one trick pony; someone mentioned a legless Jackal being executed by a marine: first of all, thats not fun at all. Second, something like that would be very hard to do on the fly: whats to stop the player simply following up with a headshot, or not looking? Thus, it would probably be scripted, meaning players who arent immature six year olds whove never seen anything like that before will quickly lose interest. And that leads me to my main point: halos success is largely attributed to its sandbox gameplay, and frankly, gore is not consistenly interesting enough in a sandbox environment (keeping in mind that gears is very linear) to keep you playing. No matter how many times you blow a locusts head off, its always the same. Gore makes a game immature, like a kid giggly at his dad's nudie stash. If you want a mature game, make the story mature; after all, Reach is all about failure and devastation. Given a choice between legless Jackals and, say, a character ive come to love being suddenly taken away... well, I'm sure you can guess which I'd choose.

Oh, by the way, I found a video of most of the people who want gore in halo. (not that it'll happen)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JvJqh6NTnU

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  • 08.04.2009 9:21 AM PDT
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i agree, SLICE THERE ARMS OFF!

  • 08.04.2009 9:27 AM PDT

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