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Subject: Bungie Confirms No Elites (Again...) In Firefight OR Campaign

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In the newest Bungie Weekly Update, Bungie has confirmed (yet again) that there are no Elites in Halo 3: ODST...

Well, that "Elite" you seem to have spotted in the Firefight coverage coming out of Comic-Con? It was a Jackal.

Although, it is thought this statement is referring to one mistaken Jackal...who knows?

[Edited on 07.31.2009 10:14 AM PDT]

  • 07.31.2009 10:05 AM PDT

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  • 07.31.2009 10:06 AM PDT
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Posted by: CARmakazie
In the newest Bungie Weekly Update, Bungie has confirmed (yet again) that there are no Elites in Halo 3: ODST...


Wrong.
The only thing confirmed, relating to Elites, is that what we thought. One single time. Was an Elite, turned out just to be a Jackal.

  • 07.31.2009 10:06 AM PDT

I sent this as a message to someone cause I couldn't post anything, it is up in the Official unofficial confirmed things in ODST thread.

I was watching that video that had some speculation on whether or not it is an elite attacking that person. After watching that part 4-5 times normally I know for a fact that it wasn't a Jackal. Jackals have no Melee capabilities and as you can see at almost a nano second before 2:14 the creature swings its arm and proceeds to fire a blue plasma rifle.
So it isn't a Jackal.

While the creature was running I noticed something about its legs so I zoomed in on them, what I found was that its legs were bent just like an Elites legs would be. On top of that I decided to do some scaling just to compare the creature to a regular Jackal. I found that the Creature was standing at the same height of an Elite, but a jackal whose shield had just broke would stand at the same height. Over the time we see the creature it is obvious that it wasn't a jackal whose shield had broken because of how high it stood. Compared to the other Jackals in the video it was clear that the creature in the back was infact taller then any Jackal that was close to you.

It wasn't a Brute because in ODST Firefight in every video I have seen of a brute with a plasma rifle it has only been in campaign, brutes in firefight however carry either Brute Plasma Rifles and Spikers. That would be the Blue Class of Brute, the orange one usually carries a brute shot or in paricular cases it carries a Carbine.

After reviewing the Video one more time It is an elite, if you zoom in on the Creature you can see that it was wearing a full White body armor and helmet. It is wearing a combat helmet and combat armor, although it isn't the best video footage I can indefinetly say that this is an elite.

The Facts:
1. Not tall enough to be a Jackal, the Elite in the video is larger then the Jackal closest to you when you scale them together.
2. Brute legs and Elite legs are not at all similar to each other, when you zoom in you can plainly see that it is an Elites legs.
3. Brutes in firefight don't use normal Plasma rifles, they use brute plasma rifles and Spikers. (This depends on the variant of Brute though because weapons may very)
4. No Brute wears White armor in the game, even when a Brute takes damage its shields don't flicker white. It uses a pressureized suit and even when the suit gives out the brutes body is brown and black.
5. If you zoom in on the Elites head and play the video you can clearly see from about 2-3 different angles that it is an Elite Combat Helmet.
6. If you look closely, when the Elite falls, you can see its "Horse like feet" and when it touches the ground it sort of slides over to the left. Normal brutes would either spin to the side or they would jump over to the side.
7. Even if you just watch the video by itself you could easily tell that this was an elite just by the shape of its bod, the armor it was wearing and how it was moving.

  • 07.31.2009 10:09 AM PDT

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...here's hoping?

I guess a single misunderstanding just occurred, that's all. For all we know Bungie did slip Elites into Firefight. Personally, I like the Brutes just a little better, but whatever.

  • 07.31.2009 10:09 AM PDT

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Posted by: CARmakazie
In the newest Bungie Weekly Update, Bungie has confirmed (yet again) that there are no Elites in Halo 3: ODST...


Wrong.
The only thing confirmed, relating to Elites, is that what we thought. One single time. Was an Elite, turned out just to be a Jackal.

I think the following sentence, "Oh please don't cry. We already talked about this" confirms its true.

  • 07.31.2009 10:10 AM PDT

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Can someone link me to a video/picture of said Jackal?

  • 07.31.2009 10:10 AM PDT

Posted by: DeadliestCarpet
Sorry, I can't hear them over the sounds of Modern Warfare 3 on my Turtle Beaches.

Posted by: CopycatWYOMING
After reviewing the Video one more time It is an elite, if you zoom in on the Creature you can see that it was wearing a full White body armor and helmet. It is wearing a combat helmet and combat armor, although it isn't the best video footage I can indefinetly say that this is an elite.

The Facts:
1. Not tall enough to be a Jackal, the Elite in the video is larger then the Jackal closest to you when you scale them together.
2. Brute legs and Elite legs are not at all similar to each other, when you zoom in you can plainly see that it is an Elites legs.
3. Brutes in firefight don't use normal Plasma rifles, they use brute plasma rifles and Spikers. (This depends on the variant of Brute though because weapons may very)
4. No Brute wears White armor in the game, even when a Brute takes damage its shields don't flicker white. It uses a pressureized suit and even when the suit gives out the brutes body is brown and black.
5. If you zoom in on the Elites head and play the video you can clearly see from about 2-3 different angles that it is an Elite Combat Helmet.
6. If you look closely, when the Elite falls, you can see its "Horse like feet" and when it touches the ground it sort of slides over to the left. Normal brutes would either spin to the side or they would jump over to the side.
7. Even if you just watch the video by itself you could easily tell that this was an elite just by the shape of its bod, the armor it was wearing and how it was moving.


Bungie said it was a Jackal not an Elite.

All Bungie said was that it was a Jackal in the SDCC video, not an Elite.

The presence of Elites in Campaign won't happen, Firefight may have a chance.

One forum ninja said no Elites another said I wonder if it's true and if Bungie's "brainwashing" him.

Bungie has been known to lie to us many times.

  • 07.31.2009 10:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: CARmakazie
Can someone link me to a video/picture of said Jackal?
I would also like this.

  • 07.31.2009 10:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: CARmakazie
Can someone link me to a video/picture of said Jackal?
I would also like this.


Now...

  • 07.31.2009 10:16 AM PDT

Posted by: cB4d93
Posted by: Silent Eli
you are a good translator
Idiot can be a hard language to learn, but once you get it down, everything becomes so clear! The whole world will make sense to you.

I don't know what video people are talking about. :(

  • 07.31.2009 10:16 AM PDT

heres the video, copy and paste it cause I don't have time to make a link.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/sdcc-09-halo-3-odst/53411

and Zealot, I have reviewed the video several times IT IS DEFINATELY A WHITE ELITE WEARING COMBAT ARMOR.

[Edited on 07.31.2009 10:18 AM PDT]

  • 07.31.2009 10:17 AM PDT

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urk said, NO ELITES. Get it through your thick skulls!

  • 07.31.2009 10:19 AM PDT

Posted by: DeadliestCarpet
Sorry, I can't hear them over the sounds of Modern Warfare 3 on my Turtle Beaches.

Posted by: CopycatWYOMING
and Zealot, I have reviewed the video several times IT IS DEFINATELY A WHITE ELITE WEARING COMBAT ARMOR.


I may have to agree with you to an extent.

Bungie may be pulling out the "lies" to grab our attention and give us a suprise.

The behavior of the enemy suggests it should be an Elite Ultra. Jackals don't go on offense, they maintain a cowardly, defensive stance in combat.

Why won't Bungie admit it already?

  • 07.31.2009 10:21 AM PDT

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That is an Elite

[Edited on 07.31.2009 10:23 AM PDT]

  • 07.31.2009 10:22 AM PDT

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Posted by: CopycatWYOMING
heres the video, copy and paste it cause I don't have time to make a link.

linky

fixed

  • 07.31.2009 10:22 AM PDT

Posted by: Hotrod3193
What time is it on the video?


O my bad its 2:14.

  • 07.31.2009 10:22 AM PDT

Posted by: cB4d93
Posted by: Silent Eli
you are a good translator
Idiot can be a hard language to learn, but once you get it down, everything becomes so clear! The whole world will make sense to you.

He sure as hell looks like an Elite, but it's probably a Jackal marksman.

  • 07.31.2009 10:23 AM PDT

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Posted by: CopycatWYOMING
Posted by: Hotrod3193
What time is it on the video?


O my bad its 2:14.

Thanks, but that is an Elite, all the other Jackels have shields when they drop, so why doesnt that one?

Also the way it moves, I've played Halo 3 enough to know when I see an Elite.

  • 07.31.2009 10:24 AM PDT

Posted by: DeadliestCarpet
Sorry, I can't hear them over the sounds of Modern Warfare 3 on my Turtle Beaches.

Posted by: BK Burger Boy
He sure as hell looks like an Elite, but it's probably a Jackal marksman.


That's what Bungie said.

Elites do appear fighting the characters of Halo 3: ODST in the Helljumper comics.

  • 07.31.2009 10:24 AM PDT

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  • 07.31.2009 10:24 AM PDT

It looks like an Elite but..... Bungie has lied to us ALOT so I can't trust them. They need to realize it hurts when someone you love betrays you.

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Posted by: LarryK32
It looks like an Elite but..... Bungie has lied to us ALOT so I can't trust them. They need to realize it hurts when someone you love betrays you.


True, they are trying to keep the secret of the elites until ODST comes out.

  • 07.31.2009 10:25 AM PDT

Posted by: cB4d93
Posted by: Silent Eli
you are a good translator
Idiot can be a hard language to learn, but once you get it down, everything becomes so clear! The whole world will make sense to you.

Posted by: AudaciousZealot
Posted by: BK Burger Boy
He sure as hell looks like an Elite, but it's probably a Jackal marksman.


That's what Bungie said.

Elites do appear fighting the characters of Halo 3: ODST in the Helljumper comics.


I want to believe it's an Elite. Jackals don't rush head on like that. Please be pulling our leg, Urk. :(

  • 07.31.2009 10:25 AM PDT

Posted by: LarryK32
It looks like an Elite but..... Bungie has lied to us ALOT so I can't trust them. They need to realize it hurts when someone you love betrays you.


I agrree, except for the love betrayal part.

  • 07.31.2009 10:26 AM PDT