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Subject: Bungie Confirms No Elites (Again...) In Firefight OR Campaign

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Interesting. I really hope this is true. But something in my gut just keeps telling me it isn't. I think it's just Bungie brainwashing me saying there is no elites. I'll just have to wait and see ;-)


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I don't understand what Forum Ninja odsmichael means. urk feels certain about himself. Who'd be the one messing with us, mike or urk?

Mike knows about as much as we do. Urk just denied elites as a lie or truth, either way we probably won't get another word about it until release.

  • 07.31.2009 11:22 AM PDT

Attention whores piss me off.

Posted by: CopycatWYOMING
Posted by: darkops0
Urk needs to put a sign on the front page saying it is in fact a Jackal... With... EVIDENCED!


Their is no evidence, there is tons more evidence prooving that it is an Elite then Jackal.

I won't believe it isn't an elite until they actually release a video of that entire match and the camera has to show everything that was shown in the normal video and then it has to show a close up from the origional position.


You need to just let it die. All of this "evidence" is just fan speculation. While I admit it doesn't quite look like a Jackel, it certainly doesn't quite look like an Elite either. We just had a weekly update where a Bungie employee TOLD us it was a jackel. I would love to have Elites in Firefight, but everything is pointing to "NO, we are not lying, THERE ARE NO ELITES IN FIREFIGHT". Just let it die.

  • 07.31.2009 11:30 AM PDT

Charge...BACKWARDS!

It's a jackal. Dang. The "combat helmet" you're seeing is the little headpiece the wear. And it's "elite walking" is it dodging and strafing, which jackals do. It just looks odd at the point of view, but the jackal strafed towards us. He's not in a defensive position because it probably just got dropped off. It's not an Elite...

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  • 07.31.2009 11:45 AM PDT

too long

  • 07.31.2009 11:52 AM PDT

0.o

That is such an elite....

  • 07.31.2009 11:52 AM PDT

That is such a JACKAL.

if you keep watching the video, you can clearly see the JACKAL if you pause exactly at 2:26. the JACKAL runs around the wall thing, bypassing Buck because Buck jumps on the scarab to destroy it, and the JACKAL ends up charging the guy fighting the Brutes, and when you pause it at 2:26, it is clearly a JACKAL. notice the size difference between the JACKAL and the Brute?

  • 07.31.2009 12:03 PM PDT

Posted by: Nosferatu486
That is such a JACKAL.

if you keep watching the video, you can clearly see the JACKAL if you pause exactly at 2:26. the JACKAL runs around the wall thing, bypassing Buck because Buck jumps on the scarab to destroy it, and the JACKAL ends up charging the guy fighting the Brutes, and when you pause it at 2:26, it is clearly a JACKAL. notice the size difference between the JACKAL and the Brute?


What the hell are you talking about? Since when is there a scarab in that video, and your obviously mistaken because the ELITE is shown clearlys at 2:14.


IF ANYONE IS GOING TO POST BEFORE YOU DO SO GO BACK TO THE FIRST PAGE AND READ MY WALL O TEXT. Once you read it you will understand that it is infact an elite, hell i think there is even a picture comparing the size of the Elite to the Jackals.

You would obviously have to be color blind or several other things to think it was a Jackal. In my Wall O text it explains all the reasons why it is infact an Elite. WATCH THE VIDEO AT 2:14 AND RE WATCH IT AGAIN. Pause the video and zoom in on the ELITE.

Compare the Elite To the Jackals It is very clear that the Elite is larger than the jackals, even if it is standing on a hill its not that hard to take a ruler and measure the 2 and then take into account how far away from each other they are.



[Edited on 07.31.2009 12:14 PM PDT]

  • 07.31.2009 12:11 PM PDT

woops! i mean Wraith, not Scarab, lol.

and i DID watch the video. i'm saying KEEP WATCHING the video until 2:26. it's the same enemy, and it is a Jackal.

  • 07.31.2009 12:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: Nosferatu486
That is such a JACKAL.

if you keep watching the video, you can clearly see the JACKAL if you pause exactly at 2:26. the JACKAL runs around the wall thing, bypassing Buck because Buck jumps on the scarab to destroy it, and the JACKAL ends up charging the guy fighting the Brutes, and when you pause it at 2:26, it is clearly a JACKAL. notice the size difference between the JACKAL and the Brute?


What the hell are you talking about? Since when is there a scarab in that video, and your obviously mistaken because the ELITE is shown clearlys at 2:14.


IF ANYONE IS GOING TO POST BEFORE YOU DO SO GO BACK TO THE FIRST PAGE AND READ MY WALL O TEXT. Once you read it you will understand that it is infact an elite, hell i think there is even a picture comparing the size of the Elite to the Jackals.

You would obviously have to be color blind or several other things to think it was a Jackal. In my Wall O text it explains all the reasons why it is infact an Elite. WATCH THE VIDEO AT 2:14 AND RE WATCH IT AGAIN. Pause the video and zoom in on the ELITE.
He meant the wraith. Anyway, it is a jackal. Often times, if you are right next to the jackal when they get off, they sidestep a bit and then charge forward in an attempt to find cover. The player obviously didnt think that the Jackal was a big threat and instead went after the wraith that was right there instead. If it had been an elite, you could bet that it's shields would be flaring and there would be a lot more fire coming its way. Jackals who use snipers or carbines also have a taller stance than the shielded jackals, thus giving it a larger appearance. It is a Jackal.

  • 07.31.2009 12:17 PM PDT

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How come it is larger than the closer jackles?

I would find a Wraith alot more dangerous than an Elite.

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  • 07.31.2009 12:21 PM PDT
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the way it ran told me it was a jackal and the fact that elites run with there weapons out

  • 07.31.2009 12:23 PM PDT

This is complete crap, the best bit about halo campaign was fighting elites... Brutes are -blam!-.

  • 07.31.2009 12:24 PM PDT

Would someone please explain to me then why in the picture if you look at the Jackals they have brownish colored armor/ skin and the Elite has White armor, under its arm areas is black and at the angle it has 2 clear spike things in the back of its head. I know its only 2 spike things but the angle isn't the best, on top of this if you look at the other Jackals they don't have that sort of spike thing in the back not even the sniper/carbine ones in campaign. The Elite was using a plasma rifle, this is obvious because it is only using one hand to hold the weapon.

  • 07.31.2009 12:25 PM PDT

Make me a sammich!

OMFG all you idiots who think that is a ELITE get it through your thick skulls! ITS A JACKAL bungie has confirmed on several occassions that elites will NOT make an appearance in ODST at ALL I know this is not a jackal because ITS A FACT that even before the covenant split ELITES and BRUTES never fought alongside each other in the same area they fought for the same cause but they were never placed in a unit together and there are brutes in that video so that means THAT CAN NOT BE A ELITE NOW STOP WHINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 07.31.2009 12:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: COB Stephen Mit
How come it is larger than the closer jackles?

I would find a Wraith alot more dangerous than an Elite.
because its standing up. True, about the wraiths, but, if you were to see a new enemy, supposedly one that isnt supposed to be there, wouldnt that be the first thing that you shoot?

  • 07.31.2009 12:27 PM PDT
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This "Elite" of yours, is nothing more than a jackal. I have seen jackals exhibiting this behaviour before, I have seen what you are calling white armor as nothing more than the light reflecting off of it in a certain way. Trust me, when I saw a white jackal when i was playing firefight, I was like, WTF, but then it moved a little and went back to silver/grey. People really seem to have a problem with the light on Security Zone.

  • 07.31.2009 12:30 PM PDT

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It's an Elite, man, save the picture and then zoom in on it, look at the legs, the plasma bolt infront of it, the helmet, and compare to the nearby Jackles.

  • 07.31.2009 12:36 PM PDT
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I bite your damn arm off!

Last time I checked Urk is a forum moderate not a Bungie employee so if he said "No elites" that isn't enough proof for me.

  • 07.31.2009 12:37 PM PDT

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You do know, Bungie could possibly, <.< >.>, lie. *gasp!*

They did it before.

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Posted by: COB Stephen Mit
It's an Elite, man, save the picture and then zoom in on it, look at the legs, the plasma bolt in front of it, the helmet, and compare to the nearby Jackals.


Dude, the bolt could be from the Shield Jackals.

[Edited on 07.31.2009 12:51 PM PDT]

  • 07.31.2009 12:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: darkops0
Posted by: COB Stephen Mit
It's an Elite, man, save the picture and then zoom in on it, look at the legs, the plasma bolt in front of it, the helmet, and compare to the nearby Jackles.


Dude, the bolt can be from the Shield Jackals.


If it was from the shielded Jackles, then the bolt would be slanted, and explain to me how the bolt is at perfect waist-line with the "Elite", which is where the Elites fire their Plasma Rifles!

  • 07.31.2009 12:49 PM PDT

all they said was that that one "elite" was not an elite but instead a jackel, I still belive there still might be elites, bungie would have said "there are no elites in the game" if there are no elites, not just disprove a single piece of evidence for an argument

  • 07.31.2009 12:50 PM PDT

Posted by: TexasToast712
OMFG all you idiots who think that is a ELITE get it through your thick skulls! ITS A JACKAL bungie has confirmed on several occassions that elites will NOT make an appearance in ODST at ALL I know this is not a jackal because ITS A FACT that even before the covenant split ELITES and BRUTES never fought alongside each other in the same area they fought for the same cause but they were never placed in a unit together and there are brutes in that video so that means THAT CAN NOT BE A ELITE NOW STOP WHINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Spamming is very unnecessary, on top of that I would also like to add that Firefight has nothing to do with Halo canon other then the fact that your killing massive groups of covenant forces.

CB The thing is with the guy running for the Wraith instead of staying back and killing the Elite and Jackals if it were me I would have tried to hijack the Wraith so thatI could kill the enemys easier. and ya the Jackal was standing up but usually when a Jackal runs it does a leg spread hoping thing, if you watch the Elite it is running/ walking as a normal elite would.

In the video I could only suppose that the Elite died behind the large platform, the Jackal you see later on was with the group of Cheiftains and had a carbine while the Elite from 2:14 had a Plasma Rifle. Also if it was the same Jackal it would of had to run all the way around the platform gone up a hill and sprinted over to the Video camera guy which wouldn't really make any sense.

I also remember that there was a review of ODST and the person who wrote it up said that he was met with multiple cheiftains, some jackals, grunts, A few elites with plasma rifles and Invisble Elites.

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Posted by: COB Stephen Mit
It's an Elite, man, save the picture and then zoom in on it, look at the legs, the plasma bolt in front of it, the helmet, and compare to the nearby Jackals.


Dude, the bolt could be from the Shield Jackals.


If it was from the shielded Jackals, then the bolt would be slanted, and explain to me how the bolt is at perfect waist-line with the "Elite", which is where the Elites fire their Plasma Rifles!


For the love of Peter, The so called Elite has a carbine. Not a plasma rifle. Get it? :P

  • 07.31.2009 12:53 PM PDT

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It's just a Jackal...and for the people that speculate it's an Elite because it dropped without a shield, the Jackal got hit before it dropped most likely, and oh also it's probably a Plasma Pistol. But only September 22, can tell us.

[Edited on 07.31.2009 12:58 PM PDT]

  • 07.31.2009 12:56 PM PDT