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Subject: Bungie Confirms No Elites (Again...) In Firefight OR Campaign

Posted by: DeadliestCarpet
Sorry, I can't hear them over the sounds of Modern Warfare 3 on my Turtle Beaches.

Sigh.

Did Ultras use Carbines in Halo: CE or Halo 2? I've played neither, but watched some YouTube videos of gameplay.

I think the enemy wasn't using a PR, more like a Carbine.

  • 07.31.2009 2:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: GreatWhiteShark
Last time I checked Urk is a forum moderate not a Bungie employee so if he said "No elites" that isn't enough proof for me.


Well from what I understand Urk works for Bungie or else he wouldn't be able to do the weekly updates, but from listening to a few podcasts a while ago Luke and Shihska seem like they have no idea whats going on behind the closed door of the ODST room. Im not saying that they are absolutely clueless, and im not saying that Urk is a little kid whom has parties at Chuck E cheese, but even though they said no Elites in ODST doesn't really mean that. Remember when they said no Lockout remakes but then out of fan crave they remade blackout, they also had to get rid of the Pimp Cheiftain so to measure it out maybe they added Elites to the scene. One final comparison is Recon, remember when they said you could only get recon through being a good community member or by doing something amazing and that was the only way you could get it and here we are a little bit over a year later and ODST is here. Or when they called it Halo 3: Recon and then they did the Name switch for ODST, a lot of things can change of the production of the game.

Also COB thanks for holding down the fort on this but I think this might be a fight we can't win, its like being in a trial and having all the posible evidence in the world against someone but that someone bribed the judge and jury.


No Elites. Quit fighting for a false hope. urk is an employee, he has confirmation there are no Elites. Read the last post :

I win.

Regarding the Blackout/Heretic deal. They stopped denying it before they began work on it, they changed there minds. ODST is finished. Save for de bugging the game is DONE!

[Edited on 07.31.2009 2:36 PM PDT]

  • 07.31.2009 2:33 PM PDT

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Idiot can be a hard language to learn, but once you get it down, everything becomes so clear! The whole world will make sense to you.

They are typically found in small (one or two individuals) sniper/scout detachments or marksman half-squads (one marksman and three short range security). What they lack in overall discipline they make up for with bloodthirstiness

The formation in firefight is identical to that described here. It is no doubt a marksman. They are also more bloodthirsty, which can explain the aggression.

  • 07.31.2009 7:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: CARmakazie
In the newest Bungie Weekly Update, Bungie has confirmed (yet again) that there are no Elites in Halo 3: ODST...

Well, that "Elite" you seem to have spotted in the Firefight coverage coming out of Comic-Con? It was a Jackal.

Although, it is thought this statement is referring to one mistaken Jackal...who knows?



Ton of bads,... Elites are sometimes consider as the lesser races and the Brutes are considerably mistaken as dominant race. The Elites for my opinion are the best in combat because of their Honor and Holy crap they believe.

  • 07.31.2009 7:31 PM PDT
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Im just throwing this out there, In a Firefight Gameplay Video, John Stanton said that " We've tweaked the Jackals in Halo:ODST a Bit, they can be real Jerks in FireFight" Meaning that either they could be difficult and better than there Halo 1/2/3 Counterparts.

All the other Explanation is that they stay out all Night Drinking at a Pub and dont bother calling you to explain where they are :(

ANyways, If they are "Tweaked" whos to say they havent been made Larger or WE could be facing an entirely new "Rank" for the Kig 'Yars. Theres new Ranks for Hunters and Possibly Drones (Buggers) Maybe There a New Ranks for Jackals.

  • 07.31.2009 7:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: Krevil
In campaign, definitely not, however, someone has said after playing Firefight that there is. We'll just have to wait and see.


No, you won't. There aren't any Elites in Firefight.

Just sayin'.
NOTE: He said this on the 28th.

  • 07.31.2009 7:48 PM PDT

You have caused confusion and delay.

Elites and Brutes have never fought together. When the Brutes started to fight the humans, the Elites were taken out of the ranks, left the Covenant and immediately started fighting the Brutes. That is my argument for no Elites in ODST.

But since Johnson is in Firefight (thus skewing the timeline) then I suppose Elites could fight alongside Brutes in Firefight as well.

According to that video, unless it's something we've never seen before, it was an Elite. If it were a Jackal that has lost its shield then it wouldn't charge at the humans. Plus, it just dropped from the Phantom, how could it have had its shield down already?

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Posted by: Banjo18122
Elites and Brutes have never fought together. When the Brutes started to fight the humans, the Elites were taken out of the ranks, left the Covenant and immediately started fighting the Brutes. That is my argument for no Elites in ODST.

But since Johnson is in Firefight (thus skewing the timeline) then I suppose Elites could fight alongside Brutes in Firefight as well.

According to that video, unless it's something we've never seen before, it was an Elite. If it were a Jackal that has lost its shield then it wouldn't charge at the humans. Plus, it just dropped from the Phantom, how could it have had its shield down already?


To your "How can it have itz shiel down already Q." Maybe a Long Range Weapon. ?


And your Charging Q. .... Read my above Post (3 UP)
Jackals have been Tweaked to be more Difficult. Meaning they could go Suicidal like Kamikaze Grunts (Witout the Nades) .... Well, I guess well Just have to wait and see!

[Edited on 07.31.2009 8:04 PM PDT]

  • 07.31.2009 8:03 PM PDT

No I don't want to join your group/clan/cult.

It's clearly using a Carbine, whatever it is. The programing in Firefight makes the enemies go after you, that has been stated many times before. It looks vaguely similar to an Elite, but if you look closely when it chases the ODST, it is clearly sprinting like a Jackal does.

  • 07.31.2009 8:18 PM PDT

Looks Jackal to me. I've collected some things from these pages. How is this possible that there happens to appear an "Elite" druing Firefight demo? We would know about it if there would spawn Elites. Also the player doesn't react when he sees this "Elite". I'd start staring something that is not supposed to be there. This creature uses probably carbine, but at least not plasma rifle. Those blue plasma balls(lol) are shot by Wraith. The quality is not very good, so the color could actually be way different. This creature's head's shape looks like Jackal's. Also Sniper Jackals wear white helmet. Of course, because of the quality I can't be sure about the head. But still, Bungie said it's Jackal so that's enough. They've done very good job if they are trying to keep those elites as secret but why to do this? Not very big thing to be hidden until the game.

  • 07.31.2009 8:50 PM PDT

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Soooo...it's a jackal?

  • 08.05.2009 3:29 PM PDT

The grunts are comming for you. They have your battle rifles!

Posted by: ShapeShifterBOB
That's one aggressive-looking Jackal...

One of the skulls may make everything super aggressive

  • 08.05.2009 3:33 PM PDT

Nooooooooooooo!! my favorite enemies are elites i love shooting those dinosaurs

  • 08.05.2009 3:38 PM PDT