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Subject: Fixing the BR While Keeping Matchmaking Accessible in Halo Reach
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Posted by: Uncle Kulikov
Why restrict it to a certain weapon?

Why not allow adjustments to all weapons, per gametype?


I dont have any problems with this. I think that would be great, and would even ask for an extra option to add/remove a scope on the pistol too.

  • 08.03.2009 12:27 PM PDT
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I think it's more of a balancing issue as a whole. I don't think they should removed or weaken the BR (even though a few tweaks could be good) I'd rather they make a mid-ranged weapon that, unlike the BR, is more mid-ranged instead of mid-long-ranged, and adapt the BR to a more counter sniper role. Your idea is great, and would be nice for all weapons, because then players could get to use it as they saw fit, and MLG in particular could make it fit what they are interested in.

  • 08.03.2009 12:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: RELLIK PIR
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Ranked should all be BR/SMG start, Hardcore should be BR start, Social should be AR/Pistol start (assuming Halo Reach uses the same -blam!- gameplay formulas as Halo 2 and 3).

Also, the only reason Rumble Hardcore in Halo 2 was unpopular was because Team Hardcore was MLG rules (it was popular), but Bungie didn't make Rumble Hardcore MLG rules, so no one who played Hardcore played it. In MLG there are motion sensors on FFAs.

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  • 08.03.2009 12:39 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

I think the BR,. Carbine, and M6D just shouldnt exist.

  • 08.03.2009 12:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
I think the BR,. Carbine, and M6D just shouldnt exist.
If they didn't, whoever picked up the Sniper would win automatically.

[Edited on 08.03.2009 12:43 PM PDT]

  • 08.03.2009 12:43 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

No, snipers can be killed by ARs, SMGs, Shotguns, its all a matter of proper ranging. Using the map to your advantage to get closer to the Sniper.

Anyway, either removed, or nurfed. One or the other.

I don't think a (And I am Quoting EVERY BR Fan here) "Perfectly Balanced Weapon" Should exist in Halo, because one "Perfectly Balanced Weapon" Completely throws off the Balance of all the other weapons on the map. The other weapons dont need to exist anymore when something like the BR exists.

[Edited on 08.03.2009 12:46 PM PDT]

  • 08.03.2009 12:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: Mava665
I think it's more of a balancing issue as a whole. I don't think they should removed or weaken the BR (even though a few tweaks could be good) I'd rather they make a mid-ranged weapon that, unlike the BR, is more mid-ranged instead of mid-long-ranged, and adapt the BR to a more counter sniper role. Your idea is great, and would be nice for all weapons, because then players could get to use it as they saw fit, and MLG in particular could make it fit what they are interested in.


I agree 100%. If they did this for all of the weapons can you imagine the possibilities. I'm starting to drool. : )

  • 08.03.2009 5:13 PM PDT
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I think it would be great if Bungie added more medium range guns instead of taken them out or nerfing them. Maybe a Brute rifle or something?

  • 08.05.2009 2:11 AM PDT

Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
I don't think a (And I am Quoting EVERY BR Fan here) "Perfectly Balanced Weapon" Should exist in Halo, because one "Perfectly Balanced Weapon" Completely throws off the Balance of all the other weapons on the map. The other weapons dont need to exist anymore when something like the BR exists.


...Wow...The BR is considered "Perfectly Balanced" because it is effective at most ranges...It does not mean that it is the only weapon that can get a kill, as you said about getting closer to the sniper, why would you not use the map to your advantage to get closer to the BR person so that your AR, or whatever it is you have at the time, can have a greater effect, or get a sniper and pick off the BR guys? The BR might be great and all, I mean really great, but it can be beaten by just about any weapon if you use them right...I mean I've seen people get destroyed by a dual pistol mid range before...and the guy had a pretty solid BR...just the pistol guy used cover till he got mid range...did some peak shooting, and just out-thought the BR guy...

  • 08.05.2009 6:29 AM PDT

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Posted by: dark soul 61
umm..... your an elite go not suck and uhh the BR is your most used weapon smart one


I'm honestly feeling the need to bury you. That was a dumb accusation.

  • 08.05.2009 6:38 AM PDT
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Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
No, snipers can be killed by ARs, SMGs, Shotguns, its all a matter of proper ranging. Using the map to your advantage to get closer to the Sniper.

Anyway, either removed, or nurfed. One or the other.

I don't think a (And I am Quoting EVERY BR Fan here) "Perfectly Balanced Weapon" Should exist in Halo, because one "Perfectly Balanced Weapon" Completely throws off the Balance of all the other weapons on the map. The other weapons dont need to exist anymore when something like the BR exists.


I don't think you even read the first post of this thread. If you had then you would understand that I am not asking for a "perfectly balanced BR". I'm sick of this selfish attitude. Everyone wants the weapons a certain way. Why not allow the players have the power to play the way that they want? More settings satisfies this. Bungie is going to decide what they think matchmaking should be like. I don't care what the matchmaking settings are as long as players can have more of what they want in custom games. Eventually popular settings will make their way into matchmaking if enough people enjoy them.

  • 09.06.2009 10:54 AM PDT

Just enjoy the damn game!
Who cares about BR vs AR

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Posted by: dark soul 61
umm..... your an elite go not suck and uhh the BR is your most used weapon smart one


I'm honestly feeling the need to bury you. That was a dumb accusation.

I can provide the shovel.

  • 09.06.2009 11:00 AM PDT

Posted by: headcrab53
Maybe the BR's spread could be tightened and the damage decreased, so it takes maybe 6 bursts to kill instead of 4. That'll make other weapons more useful at close range, and at longer ranges where the current BR isn't accurate enough and may take more than 4 shots anyway, it'll be pretty much the same, but more consistent.


It already kills in 5 to 6 shots out of it's intend 4 shot range.

  • 09.06.2009 12:02 PM PDT

Big Team Battle Multiflag/Slayer on Standoff/Valhalla/Sandtrap/Avalanche = Win

Lets just get rid of every single weapon in halo and just have BRs, they work in any range, and we wouldn't have this problem, also, more casual players will enjoy their first few matches getting 4shot by people who play halo too much and think being "Pro" is something to be proud of. All in all the BR is the ultimate weapon, and all other weapons sucks, and since it sucks, it should be removed. Halo Reach = ALL BRs. Lets also give it a grenade launcher so it can destroy vehicles.

  • 09.06.2009 12:12 PM PDT

Big Team Battle Multiflag/Slayer on Standoff/Valhalla/Sandtrap/Avalanche = Win

They should make the clip smaller, or make it a 4 1/2- 5 shot.

  • 09.06.2009 12:17 PM PDT
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Instead of constantly nerfing weapons that hurt newbs why not just remove them from regular MM and give the super awesome Halo 2 BR to competitve players to use in customs and Hardcore playlists?

I mean the average MLG player doesn't really play much regular MM anyways. If you go look at pros game histories its pretty much allways all MLG and customs. Its obvious that Bungie is trying to meet both types of players half way in H3 but why make both parties slightly dissapointed when it would be very easy to just give 3 more custom options that would allow players to use the kind of BR they like? Bullet Spread, Accuracy, Range

  • 09.13.2009 8:05 PM PDT

Spartan119 the Red Raven.
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no ure asking for to much here.
being able to modify a weapons programing isnt something that bungie will even think about... cause only the MLG crew will ever need to change the br spread to 0.
in anycase everyone running to the br to stand a chance is dumb.. if no one did that ud all be fine OR u could just make the AR a better weapon right wouldnt that fix everything.
OR wait ima go out on a limb here and say to make EVERY weapon better kinda like idk HALO:CE?
ya i think that would work because well... it did work

also ya theres not gonna be a BR they already took it out for ODST so there probably not gonna put it in another halo game

this brings me joy

  • 09.13.2009 8:16 PM PDT

Spartan119 the Red Raven.
"So officer tell me how it feels to be at the wrong end of that barrel?"

Posted by: I UnSe3N I
Instead of constantly nerfing weapons that hurt newbs why not just remove them from regular MM and give the super awesome Halo 2 BR to competitve players to use in customs and Hardcore playlists?

I mean the average MLG player doesn't really play much regular MM anyways. If you go look at pros game histories its pretty much allways all MLG and customs. Its obvious that Bungie is trying to meet both types of players half way in H3 but why make both parties slightly dissapointed when it would be very easy to just give 3 more custom options that would allow players to use the kind of BR they like? Bullet Spread, Accuracy, Range


ya a weapon maker not gonna happen

  • 09.13.2009 8:18 PM PDT

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