Posted by: MS DOS
This is an idea that can not be implemented at the stage of development that Bungie is at. Your right, I don't know anymore about the game than anyone else. But it takes years to develop a video game, and the genre and basics of Reach were probably decided before Halo 3 was even released. Presenting an "idea" that has already been presented 10 times on these forums with every thread turning out the same isn't going to do anything.
Do you read? Or do you just look a wall of text and then make up something that you think it probably says? I've very clearly stated more than once in this thread that I'm NOT expecting Reach to have classes. I've even gone so far as to say that I don't mind if it doesn't but that this is just an idea for any future game to discuss! Regardless, it doesn't matter what my idea is. I can share it without having people tell me "That's not happening in this game." That's not my point! It's like if I said in Iron Man 2, I wonder if Iron Man and Scarlett Johanssen are going to go play space-basketball. Who gives a -blam!-? I already know there's little chance of that happening. It's not like I'm claiming to have some crystal ball that knows things other people don't.
Posted by: MS DOS
Bungie is going to use parts of the older games in Reach. That's the way that it will be no matter what type of game it turns out to be. The games are based on the books. Each game has been similar to its predecessor or the ones that came after it so far. The trend isn't going to end with Reach. Some of the same weapons are going to make an appearance. Its probably going to look very similar to the other Halo games. They are going to use parts of the older Halo games in the making of Reach no matter what. Things will be tweaked and changed, but no more than going from any one of the current Halo shooters to the next one. That's reality.
I agree they'll use older parts. I have no problem with that. Based on the books? Have you read the books? Then you know only one Halo game so far actually has a novel adaptation, and it was written after. Reach may follow the rough outline of a book, but Bungie is not going to directly translate a book into a game. That's silly. The rest of your paragraph we agree on. I fully expect Bungie to use established weapons and elements. I would want them to, regardless of the type of game.
Posted by: MS DOS
That doesn't change that CoD is the most sucessful class based shooter for a reason. Just because you dislike the type of classes that CoD allows doesn't mean that other people don't think that it is a great idea. I hate being pigeonholed into a set class in a class based shooter with next to zero customizable options. I think CoD has a far superior system to most other class based shooters. But that's my opinion, and apparently one that hundreds of thousands of people share with me, otherwise they wouldn't play CoD so much. Even if a class based shooter with set classes was used, you have to retool weapons, Halo wasn't made to be a class based shooter. Everything, I mean everything, would have to be changed. If the next Halo is going to be a class based shooter, that has been addressed by Bungie probably 2 years ago, but that is a massive project.
Again, irrelevant. You're not debating with anybody. Over here we're talking about a certain type of game, and you're talking about another. If I say to you, "Hey man, I wanna play a new game like Battlefront." and you reply with "Well then why don't you go play Call of Duty?" then you don't make any sense. They're not similar games, aside from both games having characters that carry guns and fire with the right trigger. It's completely asinine. You like your type and I like mine. But we're not talking about yours here. The point is to build an idea around mine. Go start another thread if you want Call of Halo.
Posted by: MS DOS
You can play more than one game, but you will always play one game more than the other. I'm not afraid that your the one who has decided that your going to change my "favorite" game. In fact, I think I quite covered that in the first paragraph of my first post.
You basically just said "I'd like to see a Halo-type class based shooter that is unlike CoD4". That really could have been your entire OP and you could have had the same exact outcome with this thread.
As you sad "Bam", because announcing to yourself that you think you provided flawless points over the internet means you won the e-argument, boosting your e-respect. /sarcasm
Oh, and as for your edit addressing Casper thanking him for his support, just because I disagree with your opinion doesn't mean I'm not discussing the game, even if it is only hypothetical.
Finally, Microsoft isn't going to let Bungie make Halo a class based shooter, and they are the final decision on everything Halo.
You're right, I could have just said that in the OP. In fact, it wouldn't have mattered because no matter how detailed I describe my points and intentions, 90% of people are STILL saying things that have no bearing on the actual thread. But that's no fault on my part.
And I didn't say Bam as some ego booster. It just took a while to write. I had to re-write some because I've never been so concerned about making it clear enough for people enough to understand as I am here. Apparently the effort is hardly worth it anyway.
And I did thank Casper, but I could thank you too. You've clearly also thought about your points and replied with things that don't make me put my head on the keyboard, which is refreshing.
And Microsoft is a business that cares about $. If it sells, they'll sell it.