A soldiers sacrifice is never forgotten
Posted by: Brent G
Posted by: jerbearzzz
bungie won't implement classes. If they change the formula now hardcore fans will throw a -blam!-fit and not play it. This would fragment the population between those who like classes and those who like halo the way it is. I know i would just stick to halo 3 MP if it was forced into the game.
Classes would not work with halo, period. The weapon sandbox in Halo is very different from realistic shooters like BF, where almost all weapons function the same. In halo each weapon has a specific function and niche. Bungie would have to completely re-balance every weapon in the sandbox and add different weapons with the same functions in order to prevent a MP game where everyone is using the same guns.
Then there's vehicles, how do you balance vehicles in a game where you can choose a vehicle killer from spawn. Vehicles work in battlefield because anti vehicle and anti air weapons held by personnel are not nearly as effective as the advanced sci fi anti vehicle weapons in halo. this why it has balance in BF. It wouldn't be balanced in halo, unless they completely nerf the anti vehicle weapons.
thoughts on these issues OP? i may buy into the idea of a class based game if someone could honestly explain how it would work without killing the variety and nerfing the weapons.
I'd like to start by thanking you for actually using an intelligent response. My answer to the weapon balance issues mainly would be an idea I mentioned in the OP. If we played as Marines instead of Spartans, weapons would behave differently in the hands of the player, as well as against enemies. Rocket launchers would be heavier, reload slower etc. because you're not a Spartan who can juggle warthogs and whatnot. Now obviously the chances of this are extremely unlikely, judging by the appearance of the Spartans in the banner.
As for alienating hardcore fans, Bungie is still releasing new maps for Halo 3, so it's not like they don't want to support it at all into the future. People who don't want to play Reach mulitplayer can stick with Halo 3, as they'd be fundamentally different. You already bought Halo 3 so they already have your money. Reach will still sell well regardless. I know I'll probably still be playing both games, there's no reason it's impossible for other players.
Your suggesting that they make Halo like a realistic shooter, which it isnt, Halo will never be a realistic shooter because then it wouldent be Halo, Halo is a unique series of games that has its own style and format, this is why its raised the bar for all shooters. If they did what your suggesting they do, it would just be another battlefield/CoD hybrid.
OP, answer this question, Why do people play halo. Its because its a unique FPS that doesent rely on taking the same features from other games. If we wanted to keep the halo gameplay and just put classes in then Halo : reach, would be one of the biggest fails ever. Simply because of the weapon balance. Say it was a CQB map, everyone would just camp with shotguns, Say it was a normal symetrical map, everyone would use snipers or rockets, Halo CANNOT function in a clased based system unless bungie chages the WHOLE concept and gameplay of halo, If they "balanced" everything in your way it would be just like CoD or Battlefield and why would you want it to be like that?
We already have CoD and Battlefield, we dont need to make halo a clone of them
[Edited on 08.06.2009 1:23 PM PDT]