Posted by: MS DOS
I don't understand why people make posts like these. Whether or not Reach will be a class based shooter was decided a long, long time ago. Bungie isn't going to stop the game in the middle of production because of one of a thousand overdone topics on the forums saying "It can be done!!!!"
I never said they should changed it halfway through production. But you don't know any more about what the game is like than I do, and I threw out an idea of what it could be that I'd like to see.
Posted by: MS DOS
Your right though, Reach could be a well balanced, sucessful class based Halo shooter. It probably won't be, but it could. The problem with doing that is everything in Halo has to be changed. All of Bungie's Halo games have been traditional FPS. You can't just bring maps and weapons over and call it a class based shooter.
Okay, so all of Bungie's Halo games have been traditional FPSs. They have experience making other games. They've made RTS games and even a third person action game. And you're really trying to tell me that it would be harder to not have to start with making all new concept art, character models, art style, weapons and weapon ideas, characters, units and all manner of other things, than to just refine the ones they already have and just change the way the game shoots? You have to build a new car, but you can use all the parts of the old one except put in a new engine? I'm sorry, that just seems completely illogical.
Posted by: MS DOS
Not to mention there would have to be some serious restrictions on the amount of players that can be a certain class in game. Wouldn't it just be oh so fun to have 4 people on each team being the sniper class? Then again, I don't want to be pigeon holed into playing a class that I hate or sucks because everyone is whoring the better classes.
You wouldn't need any restrictions on classes as long as each class is well balanced and useful in different areas. Look at any other class based game and you'll see what I'm saying is true. Which brings me to my next point...
Posted by: MS DOS
You really didn't have any points in your OP aside from saying that one class will not rule over all... You go on to say "Don't use COD as an example"... too bad. It has a class system. You used other games that have classes as a comparison, I'll use CoD if I want, considering its the most popular class based game out for the 360.
I said not to use Call of Duty as an example for a reason, that being that is does not have the type of classes I'm talking about in this idea of a game. Call of Duty has the poorest excuse for classes, but instead lets the player customize their own loadout. That's not a class. Look at Team Fortress 2. Those are classes. I'm not comparing to Call of Duty. It's like if I had an idea for a new platforming game, and I said I wanted it to be like Super Mario Bros., and you'd be telling me that you don't want it because it would be like a Sonic game. No it wouldn't! I specifically didn't compare it to Sonic because that's a completely different game! It just happens to be set in the same vague genre of game. Which is why I say not to compare these ideas to Call of Duty. Because Call of Duty is irrelevant to my points. It's apples and oranges, and people just refuse to understand that.
Posted by: MS DOS
Speaking of CoD, why compete with it directly, when Bungie can continue to use a formula that is working? Putting a class based system into Reach makes players who are fans of class based shooters choose between two huge franchises. Staying with a traditional FPS ensures success, almost no matter what the game turns out to be like.
It doesn't make anybody choose anything. I've stated numerous times already that you CAN play more than one game. If your Halo fanboy internet friends find out you've been playing another popular game and shun you, then you have bigger problems (not specifically you, just people in general). If Halo stays the same? Cool. I'm good with that. But get a grip, people who can't discuss any ideas because they're afraid I'm the head of Bungie who's already decided I'm going to change their favourite game forever.
Bam.
EDIT: Casper, thanks for showing your support, it's good to know there are other people around here who can actually discuss ideas for hypothetical games.
And cgraham, I haven't really laid out all my ideas for such a game. Plus I'm sure Bungie would throw in their trademark ingredient that keeps it fresh and original. I'm just saying those other games are a good place to start. No game is made without influences.
[Edited on 08.04.2009 9:20 PM PDT]