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Subject: Halo Reach makes no sense.

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

There's no Frigate in the Reach Trailer, that's an Orbital Defense Platform. The Planet at the end of Halo 3 is NOT Reach. Also, Master Chief wasn't the ONLY Survivor, and that logo features 5 Spartans, no ODSTs.

  • 08.03.2009 12:23 PM PDT

If your never sure if a post has sarcasm or not, my posts are cooked in pot of sarcasm, has sarcastic filling added to it, and then has lots of little sarcastic sprinkles put on top.

Couple of points for the OP.

1. Reach was only partially glassed due to there being a forerunner artifact on the planet.
2. John wasnt the only survivor and never even reached the planet surface. The only participation John had in the battle for Reach was destroying the NAV data on the ONI prowler Circumference.
3. The debris around reach could be any amount of UNSC or Covenant ships, not many made it out of the system alive. The Pillar of Autumn did but only just and it had taken a large amount of damage. Thats how John found Halo, that and a bit of interpretive navigation from Cortana. Random (not so random if you have read the book) jump points as per the Cole Protocol.
4. The characters in the Banner are more than likely Spartans. How many ODST have you ever seen carrying a gun that big?

  • 08.03.2009 12:28 PM PDT
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Iam enjoying Halo Reach and revisiting some past Bungie games, iam a big fan of Bungie and their online community.

Its a prequel to Halo CE.

  • 08.03.2009 12:36 PM PDT

wes smith

u ever heard of google, its a really cool useful tool

  • 08.03.2009 12:49 PM PDT

Reach MMO. Here's to hoping.

And the people that believe "the hardcore playlists would be more popular if the rules were strictly MLG" can come off it, now. If you're not willing to support something close to your own setup, there's no reason for us to believe that cloning our own lists and stripping the variety down will attract more people. -- Shishka, Bungie.net

I like it when OP's realize they made a pretty stupid post and then never show up again.

C'mon man, own up to your post!

  • 08.03.2009 12:52 PM PDT

wes smith

Posted by: Tyguy101
I like it when OP's realize they made a pretty stupid post and then never show up again.

C'mon man, own up to your post!


ya i hate that

  • 08.03.2009 2:50 PM PDT

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Master chief isnt the last spartan. Even at the end of Halo 3.

  • 08.03.2009 4:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spartan5252
The ones on the banner ARE master chiefs old team. Sam,Linda,Master chief,Fred and kelly the sniper. Sam looks different because he wears mark IV armor.


Sam dies before Reach.

People-just because there's a tall spartan in the banner doesn't mean it's Sam. With 25+ Spartans on Reach (I'd have to verify, however, I think that was the number), there's bound to be at least 1 taller-than-average spartan on the surface.

And why would Master Chief be in the game if he didn't fight on the surface of Reach during the Battle for Reach (he was in space, fyi...)?

In addition, no one can confirm exactly who these spartans are. However, the trailer gives emphasis that we'll be playing as new spartans (Sierra 259 ring a bell? His statement in the trailer implies that he is a spartan.

  • 08.03.2009 4:18 PM PDT

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Just to clear somethings up, when Reach was attacked Chief and two(I believe) other Spartans came with him to get some NAV data out of some ship in a docking station above Reach. Linda was with him, she got capped, pretty sure she died. Cheif got on Key's ship, and Key's did some random space jump thing to get away from Reach after it was glassed. Random space jump took them to Halo. Ifso facto, Halo: CE. Anyone correct anything in this post so I know if I was wrong.

  • 08.03.2009 4:27 PM PDT
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Yeah, because we all know that weird guys on youtube always speak the truth.

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Posting on bungie.net should require that the user has had to have read a chapter book all the way through.

Posted by: Spartan5252
The ones on the banner ARE master chiefs old team. Sam,Linda,Master chief,Fred and kelly the sniper. Sam looks different because he wears mark IV armor.



Linda was the sniper!

  • 08.03.2009 4:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan5252
The ones on the banner ARE master chiefs old team. Sam,Linda,Master chief,Fred and kelly the sniper. Sam looks different because he wears mark IV armor.
Fred wasn't part of his team and Linda was the Sniper.

  • 08.03.2009 4:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan5252
It is based on the book FAll of Reach.

*cough* First Strike

[Edited on 08.03.2009 4:31 PM PDT]

  • 08.03.2009 4:30 PM PDT

*nuclearfacepalm*

did it ever occur to you that the frigates were not the same?

  • 08.03.2009 5:05 PM PDT

"What's the last thing a dead backseater ever hears from his pilot?"
"Watch this!"

really? *sigh* the ability for people to read these days is becoming less and less. The frigate in the reach trailer is not the one of halo 3, the one in the reach trailer is a full frigate and the one master chief was left on in halo 3 was a half frigate. This game has also been confirmed many times as a prequel, meaning that the master chief is not the only spartan.

  • 08.03.2009 5:06 PM PDT

So what if I have a low K/D? I enjoy the game more than you do.

Cus' there is only one frigate blow in half floating around in space...

  • 08.03.2009 5:09 PM PDT

Well Let's Do It

Posted by: xox GI JOHN xox
Hey guys.

for those who don't know what planet reach is, it's where the spartan project was, and the spartans trained. It was vitrified (The whole planet surface covered in glass) before the start of Halo : CE. Master chief petty officer John - 117 was the only spartan survivor. If you look at the end of the halo 3 trailer, and the shalo : reach revealer, They both feature the half-cut frigate in orbit around planet reach. How is this possible if reach fell before halo : CE? Also, a voice says "You have Spartans on the ground." Master chief is the only spartan. How could this possibly be a sequel? It HAS to be a prequel, but the the frigate from halo 3 (The half that didn't get through the slipspace portal) is in orbit around the planet reach being attacked?

Ps. The Reach logo (at the top of the screen) looks like Master chief in the middle and the Halo : ODST team?



remember noob not all was glassed on Reach some mountains survive

  • 08.03.2009 5:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: xox GI JOHN xox
Hey guys.

for those who don't know what planet reach is, it's where the spartan project was, and the spartans trained. It was vitrified (The whole planet surface covered in glass) before the start of Halo : CE. Master chief petty officer John - 117 was the only spartan survivor. If you look at the end of the halo 3 trailer, and the shalo : reach revealer, They both feature the half-cut frigate in orbit around planet reach. How is this possible if reach fell before halo : CE? Also, a voice says "You have Spartans on the ground." Master chief is the only spartan. How could this possibly be a sequel? It HAS to be a prequel, but the the frigate from halo 3 (The half that didn't get through the slipspace portal) is in orbit around the planet reach being attacked?

Ps. The Reach logo (at the top of the screen) looks like Master chief in the middle and the Halo : ODST team?



remember noob not all was glassed on Reach some mountains survive

Well, is not that the pot calling the kettle black? And to all of you speculators, we do not know who those five people are. Kelly is not the sniper. Sam is dead. Therefore, shut up.

  • 08.03.2009 6:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan5252
It is based on the book FAll of Reach.

The only proof you have for that theory is that Reach is in both Titles, you do not know what the game is about, no one but Bungie does.

So what you're saying is that there's possibly another planet named Reach that suspiciously has nothing to do with the planet that was glassed, after a massive ground campaign involving multiple teams of Spartans? Hey, that sounds like it could be a good premise for a game...oh wait.

  • 08.03.2009 6:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan5252
It is based on the book FAll of Reach.

The only proof you have for that theory is that Reach is in both Titles, you do not know what the game is about, no one but Bungie does.

So what you're saying is that there's possibly another planet named Reach that suspiciously has nothing to do with the planet that was glassed, after a massive ground campaign involving multiple teams of Spartans? Hey, that sounds like it could be a good premise for a game...oh wait.
No, he means that we don't see anything at all to do with the actual Battle of Reach in Halo: The Fall of Reach except for ship-to-ship combat and a 15 minute long zero-Gee mission. The trailer ends with "Spartans on the ground," meaning this game will be about or run parallel to the events of the grounside battle of Reach. That doesn't happen in TFoR (as Spartan5252 thinks), but in First Strike.

  • 08.03.2009 10:07 PM PDT

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If you don't know who I am, the feeling is mutual.

If this game is all about the Spartan's Battle of Reach, that means it'll be a short game. What's to cover? The generators falling, the other team retrieving Admiral Whitcomb, the wounded team escaping / defending the base entrace, taking down the Covenant carrier, and the battles in the caverns. Fighting for the generators and the battles in the caverns sound like the only fun parts that Fall of Reach could have turned into gameplay.

  • 08.03.2009 10:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: RabidNutCase45
If this game is all about the Spartan's Battle of Reach, that means it'll be a short game. What's to cover? The generators falling, the other team retrieving Admiral Whitcomb, the wounded team escaping / defending the base entrace, taking down the Covenant carrier, and the battles in the caverns. Fighting for the generators and the battles in the caverns sound like the only fun parts that Fall of Reach could have turned into gameplay.
Those all happened in First Strike... but what if we will play through a story not yet told?

We don't know what happened to Beta at the generators. Fred and Kelly were knocked down by what he believed was an EMP wave after they see two Covenant ships nearing the generators. Beta was still in posession of one of the two FURY tac nukes, so Bungie could easily flesh out their story to say that they used the FURY on the Covenant ships, possibly to cover the retreat of 5 of the Spartans (S-259, -320, and 3 others? The Spartans in the banner?)

And from there it would be an entirely new story. (I used Beta because it was the only team with at least 5 members in it who weren't all crippled from the fall to the surface).

[Edited on 08.03.2009 10:18 PM PDT]

  • 08.03.2009 10:17 PM PDT

Posted by: urk
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Posted by: RabidNutCase45
If this game is all about the Spartan's Battle of Reach, that means it'll be a short game. What's to cover? The generators falling, the other team retrieving Admiral Whitcomb, the wounded team escaping / defending the base entrace, taking down the Covenant carrier, and the battles in the caverns. Fighting for the generators and the battles in the caverns sound like the only fun parts that Fall of Reach could have turned into gameplay.
Those all happened in First Strike... but what if we will play through a story not yet told?

We don't know what happened to Beta at the generators. Fred and Kelly were knocked down by what he believed was an EMP wave after they see two Covenant ships nearing the generators. Beta was still in posession of one of the two FURY tac nukes, so Bungie could easily flesh out their story to say that they used the FURY on the Covenant ships, possibly to cover the retreat of 5 of the Spartans (S-259, -320, and 3 others? The Spartans in the banner?)

And from there it would be an entirely new story. (I used Beta because it was the only team with at least 5 members in it who weren't all crippled from the fall to the surface).
Yes, that was First Strike, but it was all still the Battle of Reach.

Assuming that we never heard from those Spartans again, it seems likely that they all died defending the generators. It seems highly unlikely that they'd survive a nuke going off. Even inside of a Covenant ship, that'd be a HUGE explosion. Enough to flatten a Nascar track, the parking lot, and a large area around epicenter of the boom.

  • 08.03.2009 10:26 PM PDT

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Fred, Kelly, and Joshua flew to an adjacent valley and tossed a nuke into a Covenant ship's gravlift and the shield held in the blast (Keyes did the same in orbit in TFoR) giving them enough time to get away before it crashed. Depending on the timing, it is definitely possible that some of the Spartans could have gotten out. If Spartan-259 is the playable character, which it is hinted at that he is since he takes the main point in the trailer, he can only be a member of Team Beta or Team Delta, but since Delta were all crippled and only 3-strong once Will, Vinh, and Isaac were trapped in CASTLE base, Beta is the only logical group for him to be from...

[Edited on 08.03.2009 10:30 PM PDT]

  • 08.03.2009 10:29 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Except that the frigate isn't cut in half.

  • 08.03.2009 11:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan5252
The ones on the banner ARE master chiefs old team. Sam,Linda,Master chief,Fred and kelly the sniper. Sam looks different because he wears mark IV armor.


No, right as it starts Master cheif is goin through slipspace to halo installation 04

  • 08.03.2009 11:59 PM PDT

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