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Subject: why cant we dual weild possible spoiler alert

Posted by: AK 47625714
The Mark VI armor that Master Chief wears can track two weapons at once, thus allowing him to dual-wield. ODSTs do not have this armor, and therefore they cannot dual-wield.

best answer that doesn't rely on people guessing an ODST's strength

  • 08.03.2009 5:50 PM PDT

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bungie are just trying to make it a bit more difficult - I dont understand why people have to find some real life physical explanation for it. We're running about a city shooting aliens that look like gorrilas, it doesn;t have to make sense.

  • 08.03.2009 5:52 PM PDT
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no all she did was hold a the shotgun and the magnum she was not engaged in active intense combat. I could hold the shotgun and the magnum in the same manner she did. am I SpaRTAN?

  • 08.03.2009 5:52 PM PDT

Well Let's Do It

u guys R forgeting the 2 smg

  • 08.03.2009 5:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: funkbrotha10
no all she did was hold a the shotgun and the magnum she was not engaged in active intense combat. I could hold the shotgun and the magnum in the same manner she did. am I SpaRTAN?


how do i know if your a spartan. if your a spartan can i have your autograph. tell MC i said hi

  • 08.03.2009 5:54 PM PDT

J-H

Posted by: TFU244
Posted by: funkbrotha10
no all she did was hold a the shotgun and the magnum she was not engaged in active intense combat. I could hold the shotgun and the magnum in the same manner she did. am I SpaRTAN?


how do i know if your a spartan. if your a spartan can i have your autograph. tell MC i said hi

......MC didn't make it through the portal from The Ark, remember?

  • 08.03.2009 6:02 PM PDT

Posted by: Higgman
Plus its a game its not like its unrealistic with aliens in it. oh wait


Not really, it's set 500 years in the future, and Humanity is at war with an alien species from another, distant solar system in the Galaxy. I don't see how it's unrealistic, unless you somewhat ignorantly believe we are alone in the universe.

  • 08.03.2009 6:03 PM PDT

The reasoning behind it is that the ODST armor can't track two weapons at once. Which, really, is total bull-blam!- if we get to use the ODST helmet and still can dual wield. Oh, really, though, it's the fact that I can pick up a Plasma Rifle and a SMG and leave people staring at their TVs going, "What...?" i.e., shield defeating measures aren't going to make the game fair when you've already got a lack-there-of shielding systems, and a bunch of enemies have shields. Oh, wait a minute, that's not fair

[Edited on 08.03.2009 6:05 PM PDT]

  • 08.03.2009 6:03 PM PDT

J-H

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Posted by: Higgman
Plus its a game its not like its unrealistic with aliens in it. oh wait


Not really, it's set 500 years in the future, and Humanity is at war with an alien species from another, distant solar system in the Galaxy. I don't see how it's unrealistic, unless you somewhat ignorantly believe we are alone in the universe.

Don't make this into a "OMFG UF0'Z IZ REEEEL!" thread (i know you weren't but you get my point)...If someone wants to believe we are alone then let them believe that...

[Edited on 08.03.2009 6:08 PM PDT]

  • 08.03.2009 6:07 PM PDT
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daul weilding pistols would be ok, but i think cause it has a scope your visor would screw up. and miranda dual wields in halo 2 because she was desperate and was fighting the flood WITHOUT ARMOR! lol like seriuosly! she didnt wear armor that entire time but she somehow made it to the index? so she only dual weilds when she is desperate.

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Posted by: funkbrotha10
no all she did was hold a the shotgun and the magnum she was not engaged in active intense combat. I could hold the shotgun and the magnum in the same manner she did. am I SpaRTAN?


how do i know if your a spartan. if your a spartan can i have your autograph. tell MC i said hi

......MC didn't make it through the portal from The Ark, remember?


you do know that was a joke right. plus they wre on halo not the ark

  • 08.04.2009 4:54 PM PDT
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It wasnt really dual wield combat, it was heat of the moment when she did it.
She would have only been able to fire one shot of of the shot gun, then drop the other weapon and reload it, plus holding a shot gun with one hand will have a huge recoil, and bad aim.

Having a more accurate, Scoped SMG is much better than dual wielding.

  • 08.04.2009 5:09 PM PDT

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Q. Why could Miranda hold a Shotgun and a Pistol?
A. Because she wasn't firing it, if she did, the arm holding the shotgun would be ripped out of it's socket, not to mention the fact that she didn't hold both of them up for long.

Q. Why could Miranda dual wield SMG's while firing?
A. 1. SMG's are kinda light. 2. She was only firing for a few seconds. 3. She wasn't aiming.

Q. Why can ODST's hold Heavy Machine Gun turrets and jump while doing so?
A. 1. ODST's are highly trained soldiers who can lift heavy things. 2. ODST's use both arms and there body. 3. ODST's wear something called a Body Suit which enhances their strength, such enhancements are mainly used when they land in a small tin can shot out of a space ship in space.

  • 08.04.2009 5:24 PM PDT
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i'm scratching my head going wtf how is this a spoiler alert

  • 08.04.2009 5:26 PM PDT
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its a spoiler alert because it talks about the fate of miranda keyes for all the peope who havent beaten halo 3

  • 08.04.2009 5:27 PM PDT

It's stupid, Miranda duel wields SMGs in Halo 2 while shooting the Arbiter, but ODSTs can't duel wield Covenant weapons (Silenced SMG and the Automag wouldn't be able to be duel wielded because of the scope). Unless the weapons are really heavy, they should be ok.... I mean, the ODSTs can still rip turrets off! I thought only Spartans, Elites and Brutes could do that (If it's only in Firefight which this is the only time iv'e seen thid then fair enough, but it still bugs me).

  • 08.04.2009 5:33 PM PDT

Posted by: Ultramarine 360
It's stupid, Miranda duel wields SMGs in Halo 2 while shooting the Arbiter, but ODSTs can't duel wield Covenant weapons (Silenced SMG and the Automag wouldn't be able to be duel wielded because of the scope). Unless the weapons are really heavy, they should be ok.... I mean, the ODSTs can still rip turrets off! I thought only Spartans, Elites and Brutes could do that (If it's only in Firefight which this is the only time iv'e seen thid then fair enough, but it still bugs me).


you know in halo 2 when she was firing she barely hit anything.

  • 08.04.2009 7:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: Pettifer7
She Wasn't Aiming At Anything , She Was Just Trying To Keep Them Away From Her ,


ODSTs Would Have To Aim And Hit Enemies Which I Doubt They Could Do While duel wielding A Shotgun And Pistol...

let alone 2 bullet hoses that are smgs'

  • 08.04.2009 7:43 PM PDT

Recon Hunters: ^*Recon*^

She(Keys) is weaker than ODSTs and Spartans are stronger ODSTs are between and the other two can dual wield so its obvious that ODSTs should dual wield and if they can wield heavy two handed weapons like the machine gun or the spartan laser shouldn't they be able to wield two light-weight weapons

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  • 08.04.2009 7:48 PM PDT

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Everyone seems to be epi-failing to realize one simple point, dual wielding is not about strength, but about ambidexterity. It is unlikely that the Rookie is skilled enough to reload two pistols at once in the heat of battle.

  • 08.04.2009 8:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wrath Of Z
Everyone seems to be epi-failing to realize one simple point, dual wielding is not about strength, but about ambidexterity. It is unlikely that the Rookie is skilled enough to reload two pistols at once in the heat of battle.


if Keys can do it so can the Rookie and a spartan has two hands as well how can he do it?

  • 08.04.2009 8:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: AK 47625714
Posted by: AK 47625714
The Mark VI armor that Master Chief wears can track two weapons at once, thus allowing him to dual-wield. ODSTs do not have this armor, and therefore they cannot dual-wield.



yeaa sure explaine to me MIranda firing two SMG on Halo 2 ? u cant?


She wasn't WEARING armor.

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Posted by: Spartin228
Posted by: Wrath Of Z
Everyone seems to be epi-failing to realize one simple point, dual wielding is not about strength, but about ambidexterity. It is unlikely that the Rookie is skilled enough to reload two pistols at once in the heat of battle.


if Keys can do it so can the Rookie and a spartan has two hands as well how can he do it?


Keyes didn't reload genius. Try reading the post before commenting on it. And Spartans are likely much more skilled the ODST's.

  • 08.04.2009 8:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: Father Wolf IV
Posted by: AK 47625714
[quote]Posted by: AK 47625714
The Mark VI armor that Master Chief wears can track two weapons at once, thus allowing him to dual-wield. ODSTs do not have this armor, and therefore they cannot dual-wield.


Spartin-Man Says:
ODSTs would be more likely to dual wield than keys(and its not hard to keep up with two weapons) and ODSTs have a HUD too

She wasn't WEARING armor.


[Edited on 08.04.2009 8:16 PM PDT]

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