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Subject: Return the pistol

I'm a 15 year old stuck in the middle of nowhere. Machinima director, screenplay writer, novelist, jazz musician, and Photoshop junkie.

Originally the way Halo would be run was simple. AR and pistol but since the noobs bound together and said "OH NOOOZ PSTOL OVRPWRD!!!!" So we get the BR. A harder to aim less powered and lower rate of fire than the Jesus gun. Here's what I'd like in reach. BR gone. Jesus gun and 60 round clip AR back....

  • 08.04.2009 11:53 AM PDT

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Posted by: mubox47
$.50 in store credit.

And the logic behind this is?


The pistol was unbalanced and broken, im pretty sure Bungie said that themselves. It was removed because a decen player (me) could kill at far ranges. A good player could kill at very far ranges. It killed in under a second and had a KpM of 4. It was removed for a reason, so why bring it back?

  • 08.04.2009 11:56 AM PDT

Just enjoy the damn game!
Who cares about BR vs AR

The thing is, if you bring back the almost instant kill pistol, you will complain like hell whenever it is used against you, and moan about them bringing it back! Its a catch 22 scenario, Bungie doesn't win either way as there will always be some people complaining.

[Edited on 08.04.2009 12:01 PM PDT]

  • 08.04.2009 11:58 AM PDT

ar wasnt going to go and pistol shoulnt replace br in this game as it was to easy to use

exzample:
my friend who sucks with br

is good with the ce pistol


doesnt that prove the pistol was overpowered (way fun)

  • 08.04.2009 11:58 AM PDT

I'm a 15 year old stuck in the middle of nowhere. Machinima director, screenplay writer, novelist, jazz musician, and Photoshop junkie.

Posted by: The EAKLE
And the logic behind this is?


The pistol was unbalanced and broken, im pretty sure Bungie said that themselves. It was removed because a decen player (me) could kill at far ranges. A good player could kill at very far ranges. It killed in under a second and had a KpM of 4. It was removed for a reason, so why bring it back?
The BR was basically the same thing but a little underpowered imagine you in a position in Halo: CE with a pistol now imagine the BR instead. There's no big difference.

  • 08.04.2009 11:59 AM PDT

I'm a 15 year old stuck in the middle of nowhere. Machinima director, screenplay writer, novelist, jazz musician, and Photoshop junkie.

Posted by: jonesy90000
ar wasnt going to go and pistol shoulnt replace br in this game as it was to easy to use

exzample:
my friend who sucks with br

is good with the ce pistol


doesnt that prove the pistol was overpowered (way fun)
So? I have a friend who sucks with the CE pistol but owns with the Pistol. Your basically reversing it.

  • 08.04.2009 12:00 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: jonesy90000
ar wasnt going to go and pistol shoulnt replace br in this game as it was to easy to use

exzample:
my friend who sucks with br

is good with the ce pistol


doesnt that prove the pistol was overpowered (way fun)

No, because they required different kinds of skill.

I bet you SUCKED with the CE pistol, but are good with the BR right? Exactly, YOU just want to be good, and you want your friend to SUCK.

Anyway, no, no M6D UNLESS it is reduced in damage to at least a 5 or 6 shot kill.

Also, the AR had no grounds in the original Halo, it was the weakest gun in the game. And if it returns as a starter, it better go back to that.

[Edited on 08.04.2009 12:02 PM PDT]

  • 08.04.2009 12:01 PM PDT

I'm a 15 year old stuck in the middle of nowhere. Machinima director, screenplay writer, novelist, jazz musician, and Photoshop junkie.

That could work. Just reduce the power. Halo CE never had a online multiplayer unless you use the PC version. I want to see that, as do a lot of other people.

  • 08.04.2009 12:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: mubox47
$.50 in store credit.

Posted by: Blue Max70
Posted by: The EAKLE
And the logic behind this is?


The pistol was unbalanced and broken, im pretty sure Bungie said that themselves. It was removed because a decen player (me) could kill at far ranges. A good player could kill at very far ranges. It killed in under a second and had a KpM of 4. It was removed for a reason, so why bring it back?
The BR was basically the same thing but a little underpowered imagine you in a position in Halo: CE with a pistol now imagine the BR instead. There's no big difference.
BR has bullet spread and a smaller clip. M6D has near perfect accuracy and the ability to kill in about a second. If you put a BR against a CE pistol, the pistol will win.

  • 08.04.2009 12:04 PM PDT

I'm a 15 year old stuck in the middle of nowhere. Machinima director, screenplay writer, novelist, jazz musician, and Photoshop junkie.

Posted by: The EAKLE
Posted by: Blue Max70
Posted by: The EAKLE
And the logic behind this is?


The pistol was unbalanced and broken, im pretty sure Bungie said that themselves. It was removed because a decen player (me) could kill at far ranges. A good player could kill at very far ranges. It killed in under a second and had a KpM of 4. It was removed for a reason, so why bring it back?
The BR was basically the same thing but a little underpowered imagine you in a position in Halo: CE with a pistol now imagine the BR instead. There's no big difference.
BR has bullet spread and a smaller clip. M6D has near perfect accuracy and the ability to kill in about a second. If you put a BR against a CE pistol, the pistol will win.
Play Halo PC online and you'll see. It was the best out of all the multiplayers in my opinion even though Halo 3s is awesome.

  • 08.04.2009 12:06 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: The EAKLE
Posted by: Blue Max70
Posted by: The EAKLE
And the logic behind this is?


The pistol was unbalanced and broken, im pretty sure Bungie said that themselves. It was removed because a decen player (me) could kill at far ranges. A good player could kill at very far ranges. It killed in under a second and had a KpM of 4. It was removed for a reason, so why bring it back?
The BR was basically the same thing but a little underpowered imagine you in a position in Halo: CE with a pistol now imagine the BR instead. There's no big difference.
BR has bullet spread and a smaller clip. M6D has near perfect accuracy and the ability to kill in about a second. If you put a BR against a CE pistol, the pistol will win.

Go play CE and realize how wrong you are, the Pistol was actually rather inaccurate at medium range, taking up to EIGHT shots to effectively put someone who isn't even moving down.

In case you were wondering, that guy could PLASMA PISTOL you to death before you make your 6th shot.

The thing is, you can't get a really strong Pistol back ,unless they make EVERYTHING ELSE stronger.

[Edited on 08.04.2009 12:11 PM PDT]

  • 08.04.2009 12:09 PM PDT

I'm a 15 year old stuck in the middle of nowhere. Machinima director, screenplay writer, novelist, jazz musician, and Photoshop junkie.

Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Posted by: The EAKLE
Posted by: Blue Max70
Posted by: The EAKLE
And the logic behind this is?


The pistol was unbalanced and broken, im pretty sure Bungie said that themselves. It was removed because a decen player (me) could kill at far ranges. A good player could kill at very far ranges. It killed in under a second and had a KpM of 4. It was removed for a reason, so why bring it back?
The BR was basically the same thing but a little underpowered imagine you in a position in Halo: CE with a pistol now imagine the BR instead. There's no big difference.
BR has bullet spread and a smaller clip. M6D has near perfect accuracy and the ability to kill in about a second. If you put a BR against a CE pistol, the pistol will win.

Go play CE and realize how wrong you are, the Pistol was actually rather inaccurate at medium range, taking up to EIGHT shots to effectively put someone who isn't even moving down.

In case you were wondering, that guy could PLASMA PISTOL you to death before you make your 6th shot.

The thing is, you can't get a really strong Pistol back ,unless they make EVERYTHING ELSE stronger.
God I'm dum. Why didn't I think of that. Thanks guys
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  • 08.04.2009 12:11 PM PDT

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Just change the BR into the Halo 1 pistol. Single shot, same range, same rate of fire, but kills in 5 shots instead of 3. Also, so the BR isnt the only versatile weapon like it was in Halo 2 and 3, make everything more versatile (remove dual wielding and give everything to ability to operate at midrange, in the right hands).

  • 08.04.2009 12:18 PM PDT

Armor Lock isn't overpowered. You just suck at Reach :)

Reach isn't bad, you're just a BK :)

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No. Halo 1 pistol was Overpowered.

  • 08.04.2009 12:22 PM PDT

Posted by: IIGhoulishtieII
No. Halo 1 pistol was Overpowered.

  • 08.04.2009 12:25 PM PDT

Posted by: Blue Max70
Posted by: jonesy90000
ar wasnt going to go and pistol shoulnt replace br in this game as it was to easy to use

exzample:
my friend who sucks with br

is good with the ce pistol


doesnt that prove the pistol was overpowered (way fun)
So? I have a friend who sucks with the CE pistol but owns with the Pistol. Your basically reversing it.


i higly dout if someones good with a halo 3 pistol (slow with same damage and no scope) could suck with it when a scope is added and it becomes fast firing

  • 08.04.2009 12:42 PM PDT

"What's the last thing a dead backseater ever hears from his pilot?"
"Watch this!"

The pistol is coming back, have you not been listening to anything from the news about ODST?

  • 08.04.2009 12:48 PM PDT

If u r reading tis, u r teh dumest pearson in teh hol world!- I r a kitteh and i aprove dis mesage.

Posted by: aaronde
The pistol is coming back, have you not been listening to anything from the news about ODST?

We are talking about Halo: Reach. lol
I don't think they should bring it back. It is literally just a stronger 1 shot BR.

  • 08.04.2009 1:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Just change the BR into the Halo 1 pistol. Single shot, same range, same rate of fire, but kills in 5 shots instead of 3. Also, so the BR isnt the only versatile weapon like it was in Halo 2 and 3, make everything more versatile (remove dual wielding and give everything to ability to operate at midrange, in the right hands).
Agreed.



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  • 08.04.2009 1:53 PM PDT
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Legends never die.

Why does everyone act like if the M6D was brought back it would have the same amount of power as it did in CE?

Obviously Bungie would reduce it's power and/or it's rate of fire if they brought it back.

I think it should be brought back with a 6 shot kill instead of 3.

  • 08.04.2009 2:56 PM PDT
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Going back and forth isn't fun! :(

  • 08.04.2009 2:59 PM PDT

I think I'd be happy with the Halo 3 pistol, but semi-auto and scoped like the Halo: CE pistol. It would be pretty balanced, but I'm not sure about dual wielding. Maybe scopeless, or no longer semi-automatic? Turn it back to Halo 3 Pistol completely?

  • 08.04.2009 3:11 PM PDT