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Subject: Don't make the same mistake you did in Halo 3.

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Posted by: TR1GGERHAPPYA55
Or take out the BR and give us some freakin weapon balance!

The M6D was more balanced. I think it should replace the BR.

  • 08.04.2009 5:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: CookieMan
Posted by: TR1GGERHAPPYA55
Or take out the BR and give us some freakin weapon balance!

The M6D was more balanced. I think it should replace the BR.


I disagree with this notion entirely, even though I loved the CE pistol. The reason, a pistol should not fire like that, period. Now if they turn the BR into a rifle that fires single shot like the M6D pistol then cool (they should make it a 5-6 shot kill like MLG Cheehwawa said) then that would be a fine, but a pistol should not function like that.

[Edited on 08.04.2009 6:11 PM PDT]

  • 08.04.2009 5:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: CookieMan
Posted by: TR1GGERHAPPYA55
Or take out the BR and give us some freakin weapon balance!

The M6D was more balanced. I think it should replace the BR.


I disagree with this notion entirely, even though I loved the CE pistol. The reason, a pistol should not fire like that, period. Now if they turn the BR into a rifle that fires single shot like the M6D pistol then cool (they should make it a 5-6 shot kill like MLG CheeWhaWha said) then that would be a fine, but a pistol should not function like that.
Well balance really has nothing to do with realism... the pistol may have been overpowered because it killed too quickly, not because it was a pistol which killed too quickly. That is unrealistic, a difference... even though it's the only realistic weapon in the Halo trilogy besides the Halo 1 Shotgun. And that's sayin' something...

  • 08.04.2009 6:02 PM PDT
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  • 08.04.2009 6:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
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Posted by: CookieMan
Posted by: TR1GGERHAPPYA55
Or take out the BR and give us some freakin weapon balance!

The M6D was more balanced. I think it should replace the BR.


I disagree with this notion entirely, even though I loved the CE pistol. The reason, a pistol should not fire like that, period. Now if they turn the BR into a rifle that fires single shot like the M6D pistol then cool (they should make it a 5-6 shot kill like MLG Cheehwawa said) then that would be a fine, but a pistol should not function like that.
Well balance really has nothing to do with realism... the pistol may have been overpowered because it killed too quickly, not because it was a pistol which killed too quickly. That is unrealistic, a difference... even though it's the only realistic weapon in the Halo trilogy besides the Halo 1 Shotgun. And that's sayin' something...


Hahaha, this is true, though haveing a rifle with the same capabilities makes it a little more acceptable to most. I mean c'mon that pistol outshot the sniper rilfe for crying outloud, accurately I might add.

[Edited on 08.04.2009 6:12 PM PDT]

  • 08.04.2009 6:09 PM PDT

Posted by: flamedude
More Carbines.


Why is no one listening to this guy? Or instead of just carbines you could make a human rifle. Like the M14 rifle. (similar to)

  • 08.04.2009 6:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: PenguinViolator
Posted by: flamedude
More Carbines.


Why is no one listening to this guy? Or instead of just carbines you could make a human rifle. Like the M14 rifle. (similar to)



AGREED. MLG CmeJaw seems to think that when I say "take out the BR in Reach" I don't want it to be replaced!

On the contrary, I would love to see another new midrange weapon take it's place. I like your idea and that is the sort of thing I'm talking about.

Keep up the good posts my friend!

  • 08.04.2009 6:16 PM PDT
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IMPORTANT NOTE: During the battle for Reach the BR was still in it's testing phase and wasn't a completed weapon.

I would actually be surprised to see it "brought back" in Halo Reach.

  • 08.04.2009 6:21 PM PDT

No matter how many times I forget about this place, I always get dragged back.

I'm more than okay with that.

We should keep the BR in, and just get rid of Aim Assist and Melee Lunging.

  • 08.04.2009 6:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: bansheeownz
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Or make the AR harder to use.

You're killing me, Cheehwawa! You're killing me! So hilarious!

Maybe if they made obsolete weapons more effective, the BR won't be the ganking mobster it is today. Like.. oh I dunno... the Plasma Rifle and the Magnum, perhaps?

Exactomundo. The issue is other weapons, not the BR, and the lack of other weapons as well.

  • 08.04.2009 6:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Or make the AR harder to use.

You're killing me, Cheehwawa! You're killing me! So hilarious!

Maybe if they made obsolete weapons more effective, the BR won't be the ganking mobster it is today. Like.. oh I dunno... the Plasma Rifle and the Magnum, perhaps?

Exactomundo. The issue is other weapons, not the BR, and the lack of other weapons as well.


So even though the BR is the only weapon that performs effectively outside of it's own intended use (mid-range), your saying the problem is everything else? There is nothing inherently wrong with the other weapons, they are however rendered useless by the existence of the BR. When a weapon is out of balance do you correct it, or everything else that is out of balance with it, and in balance with eachother?

Hmmmm. . .

  • 08.04.2009 6:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Or make the AR harder to use.
QFT.

  • 08.04.2009 6:55 PM PDT

Posted by: Ninja Walrus
We should keep the BR in, and just get rid of Aim Assist and Melee Lunging.


You ever tried shooting or meleeing your own teammate? If you have, you should know that taking out aim assist would be detrimental to the gameplay, as you would miss many shots and melees due to the lack of magnetism.

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Posted by: Carnage_976
Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Or make the AR harder to use.
QFT.


Let's just make all the weapons really hard to use, so nobody even wants to play the game anymore, just to make the MLG fanboys happy. That's a really good idea!

lol

  • 08.04.2009 7:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: TR1GGERHAPPYA55
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Posted by: flamedude
More Carbines.


Why is no one listening to this guy? Or instead of just carbines you could make a human rifle. Like the M14 rifle. (similar to)



AGREED. MLG CmeJaw seems to think that when I say "take out the BR in Reach" I don't want it to be replaced!

On the contrary, I would love to see another new midrange weapon take it's place. I like your idea and that is the sort of thing I'm talking about.

Keep up the good posts my friend!
Or you could just change the way that the BR operates so bungie wouldnt need to create a new weapon out of thin air. That's what a logical person would suggest, anyway. But maybe you haven't seen the Halo 2 E3 Demo.

  • 08.04.2009 7:04 PM PDT

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if it wasnt for the battle rifle, you wouldnt see mlg for halo 2 and 3. cmon imagen watching FinalBoss and Instict running round chasing each other with ARs and SMGs...just couldnt happen.

  • 08.04.2009 7:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
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Posted by: flamedude
More Carbines.


Why is no one listening to this guy? Or instead of just carbines you could make a human rifle. Like the M14 rifle. (similar to)




AGREED. MLG CmeJaw seems to think that when I say "take out the BR in Reach" I don't want it to be replaced!

On the contrary, I would love to see another new midrange weapon take it's place. I like your idea and that is the sort of thing I'm talking about.

Keep up the good posts my friend!
Or you could just change the way that the BR operates so bungie wouldnt need to create a new weapon out of thin air. That's what a logical person would suggest, anyway. But maybe you haven't seen the Halo 2 E3 Demo.


I'm not apposed to this idea. I just think the BR needs to be addressed one way or another.

Obviously there will be new weapons in Reach, so I don't see the problem in having a new midrange weapon to replace the BR.

Agree to disagree I guess!

[Edited on 08.04.2009 7:10 PM PDT]

  • 08.04.2009 7:06 PM PDT

thats stupid the br is fine ur the first person to get worked up about it

  • 08.04.2009 7:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: skull56546
thats stupid the br is fine ur the first person to get worked up about it


Actually the BR isn't fine, and he's not the first person to get "worked up about it."

This has been a hot topic in the Reach forum for weeks now!

  • 08.04.2009 7:11 PM PDT
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i think all this single shot is garbage the BR should be full auto, 3 burst, or single whatever you would like all with their resulting problems full auto results in less accuracy (maybe actually add significant recoil to the BR) it is supposed to have a larger caliber than the AR. and on that topic do away with the crappy AR or make it better because the only good part is its ridiculous rate of fire even by today standards never mind 500 years from now that a terribly inaccurate rifle can barely shoot an accurate 100 yards

  • 08.04.2009 7:11 PM PDT

No matter how many times I forget about this place, I always get dragged back.

I'm more than okay with that.

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Posted by: Ninja Walrus
We should keep the BR in, and just get rid of Aim Assist and Melee Lunging.


You ever tried shooting or meleeing your own teammate? If you have, you should know that taking out aim assist would be detrimental to the gameplay, as you would miss many shots and melees due to the lack of magnetism.


Thus increasing the need for actual aiming skill.

  • 08.04.2009 8:09 PM PDT

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Beefing up current weapons = Dominance taken from BR + Overall balance

Edit: But I also would like to see a tweaked single-shot BR or possibly new Combat Rifle with 4-5sk replace the existing BR we have now. I really think the idea of taking the bullet spread from the BR would balance it enough to tone down its dominance while still making it a worthy weapon.

It's pretty much the Carbine, I know, but there needs to be a human version with more punch and delay to counter the quick-trigger and weaker Covenant counterpart. These two could add spice to competitive scenarios such as MLG by making a choice for your main weapon (albeit a small one so skill is preserved) that of speed over power.

[Edited on 08.04.2009 8:38 PM PDT]

  • 08.04.2009 8:28 PM PDT
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is a BR that hard to use? i think it is ok i don't see a difference from halo 2 Br's to halo 3 Br's... if is that what you mean...

  • 08.04.2009 9:16 PM PDT

A mythic member but I speak my mind to much.

I see only 1 solution after reading peoples posts. It seems to be the direction everyone wants to go in. If a weapon is to good, remove it.

I think all weapons should be removed and replaced with Combat Knives.

All Vehicles should be removed from the game and replaced with Boats.

This seems to be the direction people keep going in, and I glad Bungie is making the game and doesnt listen to us most the time.

[Edited on 08.04.2009 9:41 PM PDT]

  • 08.04.2009 9:40 PM PDT

Posted by: Sonic343
I don't think you are allowed to talk about bungie on Bungie.net.

The BR should be more difficult to use, if anything.
It's the auto-aiming that needs to go.

[Edited on 08.04.2009 10:39 PM PDT]

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