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Posted by: Kendoboy
no sorry i didnt get around to reading the books probably should do that sometime but anyway ur not MC himself in the game so i say its up to you whats your primary weapon is


lol, oh man, arent u late for ur D & D tournament or sumthin? leave the rational discussion to the big boys

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Posted by: derekw
Posted by: Kendoboy
no sorry i didnt get around to reading the books probably should do that sometime but anyway ur not MC himself in the game so i say its up to you whats your primary weapon is


lol, oh man, arent u late for ur D & D tournament or sumthin? leave the rational discussion to the big boys

lol

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Posted by: Kendoboy
first suck it up i dont realy care if its the third or twenty third thread second i have shot a real gun before. halo is a fictional game its not based on real life so who give a crap if the marines dont march in with pistols first


Wait wait wait. You've shot a gun before, and that makes your statement somehow more credible?


geez, thank u bearcat, finally someone over 13 in these forums

What the hell does that mean


sorry slaughter, no offense

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The reason the pistol is so owning, is its the only effective weapon in medium range.

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To shadedhalo, it is not possible, even in the future, for pistols to be as accurate as they are in Halo. The laws of physics does not allow it to happen!

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Posted by: shadedhalo
Ok if all of you haven't noticed, Halo isn't real life, it doesn't have to fit into real life standards. Maybe in the future the pistol will be a primary weapon and have a scope, who knows, and its not for you people to decide. The pistol is used more than any other weapon because you spawn with it and its about the only weapon you can counter a sniper with unless you get close. No it's not overpowered, it fits into the weapon choices in Halo and it balances out other weapons. Bungie did a great job in how each weapon can cancel out another. Halo is not like other FPS's, it doesn't have to be and any of you that wants it to be then simply -blam!- off and play another game. Oh yeah dude calling people n00bs.. you're an IDIOT.. of course the pistol is used a lot, you spawn with it if generic weapons are on. Who gives a rat's ass if the marines don't use it? Why does it have to be so realistic? All of you who keep saying this take crap way too seriously, you keep acting like Halo is based on today, its based on the FUTURE and none of you know what will happen in the future. I won't even get into how the pistol is balanced but any other weapon can take it out and yes it requires skill and the ones of you who says it doesn't are the ones who get owned by it. If you get owned by it, then get good with it, use another weapon and counter it, or just don't play people better than you. It will be in Halo 2 and it might be toned down but along with the battle rifle it will still be one of the most used weapons so get over it and if you don't like getting owned with it then don't play.

So all you n00bs -blam!-ing, GET OVER IT! If you don't like it don't play Halo.

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lol, first of all, dont give urself a hand cramp by writing 500 word posts. second of all, if halo 1 was so balanced and the pistol is so balanced, how come its the gun everyone uses in 90% of the situations u encounter, how come in actual halo tourneys EVERYone uses the pistol first, no matter the settings. and u think IM an idiot cuz i call people n00bs??? did u not read the last line of ur huge cry-baby post???!!! lol, N00BS like u really bring a smile to a guys face, thanx for the laugh

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There was a comment a while back on the fact that real pistols dont have scopes howeverthat is not true. There are a lot alot of pistol that have scopes, usualy from what ive seen revolvers tend to have the long optic scopes while the semi's have dotscope's huh just the semi's luck. And in fact PISTOL DO RULE AND AR'S SUCK why: for one most assault rifles fire bullets that are the diamiter of one of those plastic BB's, while pistols usualy fire around the 1 cntimeter range. Pistols are also more accurate than AR's because an ar is concentrated on spitting the most rounds it can out of the barrel while pistol are just shooting 1 shot after another in a strait line. Final Conclusion PISTOLS DO RULE AND AR'S DO SUCK

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Posted by: derekw
Posted by: DrSlaughter
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Posted by: Kendoboy
first suck it up i dont realy care if its the third or twenty third thread second i have shot a real gun before. halo is a fictional game its not based on real life so who give a crap if the marines dont march in with pistols first


Wait wait wait. You've shot a gun before, and that makes your statement somehow more credible?


geez, thank u bearcat, finally someone over 13 in these forums

What the hell does that mean


sorry slaughter, no offense

ok

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I wasn't calling you an idiot for calling ppl noobs, I was calling you an idiot for your stupid inaccurate post. Yes in tournaments it's used a lot because players spawn with it and the only reason you'd complain about it is if you're getting owned by it, which I am sure you are. Like I said, you spawn, you get shot at, you have a weapon in hand, do you use it or run off and try to find another weapon, dying with each step of the way? OF COURSE IT'S USED! It's only unbalance is Bungie didn't put in another medium range weapon to counter it, at any other range youc an easily defeat it. People who complain about Halo are people who can't win at it and want it changed to be like another FPS they are better at, and that my friend sounds a lot like you.

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derekw first of all im probably older then you and im not the one going around caling everyone a noob and then saying leave the rational conversation to the big boys i started this because i wanted to discuss the pistol and what is good and bad about it not to get into a flame fight with some imature nerd so back off unless u have something to discuss

and by the way u used noob in every single post so i would recomend geting a dictionary and learning some new words ok

[Edited on 7/21/2004 4:06:48 PM]

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Posted by: Agamemnon
There was a comment a while back on the fact that real pistols dont have scopes howeverthat is not true. There are a lot alot of pistol that have scopes, usualy from what ive seen revolvers tend to have the long optic scopes while the semi's have dotscope's huh just the semi's luck. And in fact PISTOL DO RULE AND AR'S SUCK why: for one most assault rifles fire bullets that are the diamiter of one of those plastic BB's, while pistols usualy fire around the 1 cntimeter range. Pistols are also more accurate than AR's because an ar is concentrated on spitting the most rounds it can out of the barrel while pistol are just shooting 1 shot after another in a strait line. Final Conclusion PISTOLS DO RULE AND AR'S DO SUCK


ok dude, pat urself on the back and take a nap, im sure everyone thinks ur a real expert on guns now.... *sighs* when will these n00bs ever learn

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The Pistol is probably back, with the Battle Rifle to counter it.

Why to people like to type so much? I'm way too lazy to type more than 50 words.

[Edited on 7/21/2004 4:08:00 PM]

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Posted by: Agamemnon
There was a comment a while back on the fact that real pistols dont have scopes howeverthat is not true. There are a lot alot of pistol that have scopes, usualy from what ive seen revolvers tend to have the long optic scopes while the semi's have dotscope's huh just the semi's luck. And in fact PISTOL DO RULE AND AR'S SUCK why: for one most assault rifles fire bullets that are the diamiter of one of those plastic BB's, while pistols usualy fire around the 1 cntimeter range. Pistols are also more accurate than AR's because an ar is concentrated on spitting the most rounds it can out of the barrel while pistol are just shooting 1 shot after another in a strait line. Final Conclusion PISTOLS DO RULE AND AR'S DO SUCK

you are retarded pistols do have scopes so your telling me that a Colt .45 with a scope is better that a M-16A2 with Optics?? i think not if pistols are soooooo good with scopes why doesnt the Army fight wars with pistols?

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Posted by: derekw
Posted by: Agamemnon
There was a comment a while back on the fact that real pistols dont have scopes howeverthat is not true. There are a lot alot of pistol that have scopes, usualy from what ive seen revolvers tend to have the long optic scopes while the semi's have dotscope's huh just the semi's luck. And in fact PISTOL DO RULE AND AR'S SUCK why: for one most assault rifles fire bullets that are the diamiter of one of those plastic BB's, while pistols usualy fire around the 1 cntimeter range. Pistols are also more accurate than AR's because an ar is concentrated on spitting the most rounds it can out of the barrel while pistol are just shooting 1 shot after another in a strait line. Final Conclusion PISTOLS DO RULE AND AR'S DO SUCK


ok dude, pat urself on the back and take a nap, im sure everyone thinks ur a real expert on guns now.... *sighs* when will these n00bs ever learn

he doesnt know what hes saying

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Incorrect, while the rifle bullets are more streamlined the pistol has a bigger push behind it resulting in it going farther in a shorter amount of time meaning less innacuracy, allthough if a pistol and a modern carbine were put to the test the carbine would wn but not so if it was a pistol and AR a pistol would be more accurate. And heck for all we know there is some sort of electromagnetic stabalizers to steady the bullets flight path. Another reason the pistol is more accurate is that by the time you feel the greater side of recoil the bullet has allready left the barrel while the AR is still firing away

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To shadedhalo, it is not possible, even in the future, for pistols to be as accurate as they are in Halo. The laws of physics does not allow it to happen

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  • 07.21.2004 4:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: Kendoboy
i think that bungie should keep the pistol in Halo 2 its not overpowered for one major reason first you only have 12 shots so u can blast all out the only people that think its over powered are the ones that dont realy know how to use it the only way it might be unbalnced is if you have one in each hand in Halo 2 comment please i would appriciate any thoughts.


I hate the Pistol in Halo because in the MP what weapon did everyone use? Yup u guess it like on Blood Gluch there is a Sniper but did anyone use it no just one or 2 people out of how many like 12 or something and Y the hell will u put a dam Scope on a dam Pistol that is just dumb!! If it was close combat only like in the Real World and stuff that is different but if it does make a appearance in Halo 2 take off that dam SCOPE!! We have the Battle Rifle and Sniper for that and that Covenant Sniper just make it like a no scope pistol and only for Close Combat!!

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so a Clt .45 is more powerful and accurate than an SA-80 Styer AUG, M-16A2, M-16A1, Barreta AR70, SAR 80 H&K G41and the FN FAL thats what your saying

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Posted by: DrSlaughter
Posted by: Agamemnon
There was a comment a while back on the fact that real pistols dont have scopes howeverthat is not true. There are a lot alot of pistol that have scopes, usualy from what ive seen revolvers tend to have the long optic scopes while the semi's have dotscope's huh just the semi's luck. And in fact PISTOL DO RULE AND AR'S SUCK why: for one most assault rifles fire bullets that are the diamiter of one of those plastic BB's, while pistols usualy fire around the 1 cntimeter range. Pistols are also more accurate than AR's because an ar is concentrated on spitting the most rounds it can out of the barrel while pistol are just shooting 1 shot after another in a strait line. Final Conclusion PISTOLS DO RULE AND AR'S DO SUCK

you are retarded pistols do have scopes so your telling me that a Colt .45 with a scope is better that a M-16A2 with Optics?? i think not if pistols are soooooo good with scopes why doesnt the Army fight wars with pistols?


Some do, what you saying about the colt 45 and m16, I was pointing out that the pistols do have scopes you idiot, oh and a AR on full automatic would lose to a pistol in accuracy, i cant say about the M16 because i cant remeamber the info on it.

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Posted by: DrSlaughter
Posted by: derekw
Posted by: Agamemnon
There was a comment a while back on the fact that real pistols dont have scopes howeverthat is not true. There are a lot alot of pistol that have scopes, usualy from what ive seen revolvers tend to have the long optic scopes while the semi's have dotscope's huh just the semi's luck. And in fact PISTOL DO RULE AND AR'S SUCK why: for one most assault rifles fire bullets that are the diamiter of one of those plastic BB's, while pistols usualy fire around the 1 cntimeter range. Pistols are also more accurate than AR's because an ar is concentrated on spitting the most rounds it can out of the barrel while pistol are just shooting 1 shot after another in a strait line. Final Conclusion PISTOLS DO RULE AND AR'S DO SUCK


ok dude, pat urself on the back and take a nap, im sure everyone thinks ur a real expert on guns now.... *sighs* when will these n00bs ever learn

he doesnt know what hes saying


lol, slaughter, i like u, u definutely shut him down, very good point... i can beleive he's actually trying to rationalize all weapons with the example of halo 1's pistol and AR, his mom musta played football with him as a new born

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yes an ar on FULL AUTO would lose to a pistol a M-16A2 on single shot would kick the Colt .45 ass in acuracy any day

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Posted by: Kendoboy
derekw first of all im probably older then you and im not the one going around caling everyone a noob and then saying leave the rational conversation to the big boys i started this because i wanted to discuss the pistol and what is good and bad about it not to get into a flame fight with some imature nerd so back off unless u have something to discuss

and by the way u used noob in every single post so i would recomend geting a dictionary and learning some new words ok


lol, yeh cuz the term n00b is really gonna be in the dictionary! man u are on fire today!

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Sorry Agamemnon I did not word my post correctly I meant to say;
It is not possible for pistols to have a greater accuracy over large distances, due to the small barrel size!
I am aware that an AR would be innaccurate but using burst fire would improve the accuracy, however in Halo even using burst fire the AR was ridiculously innaccurate over all ranges. Whereas the pistol was accurate at ranges of 80 metres+
Also if the gun had this new technology to make it ore accurate Im sure Bungie would have said something in the manual!

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Posted by: derekw
Posted by: DrSlaughter
Posted by: derekw
Posted by: Agamemnon
There was a comment a while back on the fact that real pistols dont have scopes howeverthat is not true. There are a lot alot of pistol that have scopes, usualy from what ive seen revolvers tend to have the long optic scopes while the semi's have dotscope's huh just the semi's luck. And in fact PISTOL DO RULE AND AR'S SUCK why: for one most assault rifles fire bullets that are the diamiter of one of those plastic BB's, while pistols usualy fire around the 1 cntimeter range. Pistols are also more accurate than AR's because an ar is concentrated on spitting the most rounds it can out of the barrel while pistol are just shooting 1 shot after another in a strait line. Final Conclusion PISTOLS DO RULE AND AR'S DO SUCK


ok dude, pat urself on the back and take a nap, im sure everyone thinks ur a real expert on guns now.... *sighs* when will these n00bs ever learn

he doesnt know what hes saying


lol, slaughter, i like u, u definutely shut him down, very good point... i can beleive he's actually trying to rationalize all weapons with the example of halo 1's pistol and AR, his mom musta played football with him as a new born

lol

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Dude who put the post about the sniper on BG and not using it. Ok there is a sniper on every map minus longest, wizard, and chiron... and I use it pretty much on every map so wtf are you talking about?

I will say this, the pistol is the most noob friendly weapon, it helps beginners out until they can learn the use of other weapons, but obviously none of you have learned the use of other weapons is why you think it's so overpowerful. Every game has a weapon of this sort but you have to learn other weapons to overtake it, which isn't that hard at all.

[Edited on 7/21/2004 4:22:40 PM]

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Posted by: derekw
Posted by: DrSlaughter
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Posted by: Agamemnon
There was a comment a while back on the fact that real pistols dont have scopes howeverthat is not true. There are a lot alot of pistol that have scopes, usualy from what ive seen revolvers tend to have the long optic scopes while the semi's have dotscope's huh just the semi's luck. And in fact PISTOL DO RULE AND AR'S SUCK why: for one most assault rifles fire bullets that are the diamiter of one of those plastic BB's, while pistols usualy fire around the 1 cntimeter range. Pistols are also more accurate than AR's because an ar is concentrated on spitting the most rounds it can out of the barrel while pistol are just shooting 1 shot after another in a strait line. Final Conclusion PISTOLS DO RULE AND AR'S DO SUCK


ok dude, pat urself on the back and take a nap, im sure everyone thinks ur a real expert on guns now.... *sighs* when will these n00bs ever learn

he doesnt know what hes saying


lol, slaughter, i like u, u definutely shut him down, very good point... i can beleive he's actually trying to rationalize all weapons with the example of halo 1's pistol and AR, his mom musta played football with him as a new born


Or tried to paint the house red.

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