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Subject: Unrelenting proof the MC is a reincarnation or something

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It doesn't prove he's ANYTHING like a reincarnation of anyone, how do you recognize someone as a reincarnation of something, even if you knew the person he was supposedly a reincarnation of. Yes, it's been discussed alot, and a lot of people think that it points to either that the human are the forerunner or 343 GS is insane. Actually, everyone hates and knows that 343 GS is insane, but those are the things I've heard that people say it points to. I think you're the first to say he's a REINCARNATION, because, if you've read the flood, he refers to the other marine too as a reclaimer, and only calls the Covie "the other race" which points to that he has no memory of elites, jackles, or grunts, but as we know, these races weren't born on a planet that the forerunner had been on. Of course, he didn't see the prophets, engineers, or brutes though. So, he could have a memory of them. I don't think that is the case, I think that the human are the forerunner and the prophets were just geneticaly engineered by the forerunner. There are many more things he says that practicaly says the humans are the forerunner, we'll just have to see for ourselves.

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  • 07.21.2004 4:49 PM PDT
Subject: Unrelenting proof the MC is a reincarnation or something
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Now before I start, let me say this is my first post, and I have pretty much NO IDEA where I should post this, so cut me some slack (all you hardcore nerds that rip into everyone). I was shipped off to visit mine Mutter for the month of July, and to counter the crushing boredom, I've been playing an assload of Halo and reading the books. It has come to my attention, that on page 257 of the book The Flood, 343 Guilty Spark says the following:
" Why do you hesitate to do what you've already done?" "Last time you asked me: if it were my choice, would I do it?" "Having had considerable time to ponder your query, my answer has not changed. There is no choice. We must activate the ring"

I think this proves that the MC is a reincarnation or something, because 343 GS has met him before, even CRAZY machines don't make mistakes about something like that, perhaps all the Spartans are reincarnations of a special elite group of Forerunner called "Reclaimers" or something, which would make sense because they all recognize Covenant/Forerunner symbols. This also proves that the Halos have undoubtedly been used once before. Now I may be wrong, and this may have been already discussed (which it should have because its also in one of the F**king cutscences!) but I made a damn account to post this, so I think it's important enough.





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  • 07.21.2004 4:38 PM PDT
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damn, sorry vasheeh had to be the first person to reply to you....

i don't know what that segment means, so i'm just going to wait until bungie explains it. i'm patient as a rock.

  • 07.21.2004 4:53 PM PDT
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You just did the opposite of "cutting me some slack" vasheeth... I'm new here man, geezum craw, I think he is a reincarnation or clone or replicant of SOME kind, how else would he recognize all thoose damn symbols?

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  • 07.21.2004 5:18 PM PDT
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that's why i'm sorry vasheeth was the first.

  • 07.21.2004 5:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Titus of Antioch
You just did the opposite of "cutting me some slack" vasheeth... I'm new here man, geezum craw, I think he is a reincarnation or clone or replicant of SOME kind, how else would he recognize all thoose damn symbols?

You'll just have to get used to the ravenous fanboys that populate these forums. As for the theory, maybe GS encountered someone in the past that looked or had some relation to MC.

  • 07.21.2004 5:35 PM PDT
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maybe if people actually did reincarnate

  • 07.21.2004 5:36 PM PDT
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Well, Forerunners are like magical religeous people, and theese Reclaimers were special right? The dead Marine the MC found in the Library was also REALLY UBER BADASS too right? When the Spartans were being selected, not all the candidates made the cut, but Dr. Halsey said that all the children would grow up to becom remarkable individuals non the less, so the dead marine (i think his name was sargeant Mobuto or something) could have been a Spartan candidate ,and a Recliamer in a past life.

  • 07.21.2004 5:46 PM PDT
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The forerunner were at the pinnacle of science, able to create artificial world's. Simply put they would probally have of mapped the brain down to what it is that makes us tick. Inevitably being the avanced race they were, they would have made thier panels and activation switches so easy to use, that one would'nt even have to think what to touch, Even if you had no previous knowledge of the devices. I really reccomend checking my topic out. Itll shed some light on this subject for you, and theres a ton of info.
Check it out!!
Other post exsist that are a bit more lyrically inclined than i am, but thereyr about the same. Unfourtunatly mine was locked so you cant post, but you can still read. Your's is plausible, but all these theory's are just that, theory's. So we both might be wrong. But good job anyway.

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  • 07.21.2004 5:53 PM PDT
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Im not so sure about the panel activation thingy, have you ever just zoomed on the one in the second level, it looks pretty damn complicated to me, and besides CORTANA didnt know how to you use it either, the MC just KNEW how to do it as if a past memory told him how. Thanks for the insight though, im definately going to check that link out and refine my theory according to what I see, thanks again.

  • 07.21.2004 6:11 PM PDT
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Well, he had to look for a keyhole-like thing to put the index in, so I don't think he has any special knowledge. Although I think that it's weird that he can activate the light bridge and map and other panels just like that.

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  • 07.21.2004 6:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: Titus of Antioch
even CRAZY machines don't make mistakes about something like that




yes they do! THEY ARE CRAZY!!

  • 07.21.2004 7:07 PM PDT
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There is more proof than what 343 GS says. Ekim Zep's thread
In The Underground "I did some mulling over Marathon" discusses
this in great detail.

  • 07.21.2004 9:07 PM PDT
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Well cortana, although based on a human brain, is not human. So it doesn't completely nullify that statement. Also polaski activated some of the panels on the covenant flagship. Many of the marines were moving around halo too, possibly activating things as they go. But Dr. hasly was looking for certian genetic markers, nearly perfect subject's. While i believe that due to halo being activated, the forerunner sent time released capsle's with their own dna to earth. The flood was out of control, halo needed to be activated, and continuing thier empire was a concern. They did this so they would live on, well in a sense. So as we lived on and on, many of the forerunner genes were thinning. But a few of the people on earth, bred within sall groups, somthing like 4000. Therefore years down the line, only a few select people had what passed for forerunner genes. These people were screened and eventually selected as the spartans. But im sure they missed a bunch of ones that could of passed for spartans as well. This could very well be the reason for the panel reconition. Its just a theory, and with nothing really to back it up. but it seems alright to me.

  • 07.21.2004 9:23 PM PDT
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Thats what i've been getting at HUZZAH!

  • 07.21.2004 9:31 PM PDT
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I like this topic Titus.
If you don't know, 117's birthplace is called Elysium City. In Greek
Myth, Elysium was a paradise in Hades where nobles souls
rested for Eternity. What's MORE interesting, is the river Lethe.
Lethe is a river in Hades that souls drink from to forget past
lives before being reincarnated. Now I know there is no Reference
in Halo to Lethe, but there is in Marathon.
She is the dark. O Lethe, enemy and lover, without
whom my very existence would be pathetic and vulgar!
Our relationship is complex and perhaps eternal.

That quote is from a very famous Marathon Terminal, and if you
know anything about Marathon, the similarities between the
two cyborgs central the the stories are uncanny, as RN54
pointed out. (I like that theory by the way)

  • 07.21.2004 9:59 PM PDT
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I've read the posts in that forum comparing Halo and Marathon, and I know a little about Marathon, but I myself dont think that theres a link really, its just Bungie mind F**king us to the limits of human bearabilty. I would like to think theres a link, but I'm sticking to the idea that its just how Bungie gets off, they read us babble on and argue and sit there cranking it... eewww

  • 07.21.2004 10:09 PM PDT
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I agree with you there man... thoose guys are on a level akin to evil, its not quite evil, but pretty damn close >:)

  • 07.21.2004 10:13 PM PDT
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My obsessive compulsiveness demands I get this to a nice even 20





We will use him for the armies...OF THE NIGHT!
I thought we were using the replicants for the army of the night.
DIFFRENT ARMY DORKFACE!

  • 07.21.2004 11:16 PM PDT
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A few words if you listen to Eagle 117s teroy on this subject youll find that MCs cone was once or could have been on halo ask Eagle 117 for his thoughts on this matter it even has prove in the books.

  • 07.22.2004 1:37 AM PDT
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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Fan- [color=white] "You guys are GREAT! I have all of your games! I bought your first game Halo and can't wait to buy Halo 2!" [/color]

Bungie Staffer - [color=lime] "Thanks, you do know that we made lots of other games before Halo?" [/color]

Fan- [color=white] "Really? Wow! Anyway, I just love you guys. Can I ask you a question that's always bothered me?" [/color]

Bungie Staffer- *smiles patiently and takes a deep breath* [color=lime] "Sure, what's on your mind?" [/color]

Fan- [color=white] "Well, I never understood this, but...." *insert question here* ("Are humans Forerunner?" "Are Marathon and Halo connected?" "does Cortana have her own agenda?" "Is the MC really Elvis" the list goes on) [/color]

Bungie Staffer- *looks around worriedly, notices that no one else is listening, leans close to the fan* [color=lime] "Well, I'm not supposed to do this, but can you keep a secret?" [/color]

Fan- *nearly peeing themselves in excitement* [color=white] "Yes, I can keep a secret!" [/color]

Bungie Staffer- [color=lime] "Good, so can I." [/color]

Lmao, that's funny. Probably true aswell.

  • 07.22.2004 1:57 AM PDT

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reincarnation huh?

i think this could (in some way) apply to all spartans. like john and fred understood forerunner and covenant (forerunner based) tech without ever seeing them or knowing what they mean. thats just a bit too spooky. and is very significant, just wish i knew what it meant.

could suggest a former memory.

  • 07.22.2004 2:04 AM PDT
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all you guys can suck me

his theory was awesome, and it is his theory..

so therefore you guys can suck me

  • 07.22.2004 4:41 AM PDT

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