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Subject: Dare is from the Covenant.

Posted by: CruSHing yOu 96
If you look, it seems like dare's helmet is way oversized. There is also a rumor that she betrays the squadmates.
Is it possible that Dare died on impact, and the covenant stole her armour.
Please post your thoughts.


First of all, who the -blam!- would vote yes for this? We have seen dare's face...does she look like any covenant races we know!? No... she doesn't. And again with the oversized head thing...it just looks that way because she is not in one thousand pounds of armour.

But yes, it is possible that she betrays her squad, but personally i think she is only acting strict because maybe she thinks she has to prove herself to the men.

  • 08.05.2009 8:59 PM PDT
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naw dude i dont think u are right.

  • 08.05.2009 9:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: Defiant Assasin
what spicies is the same size as a human?


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  • 08.05.2009 9:09 PM PDT

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  • 08.05.2009 9:22 PM PDT

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None of the covenant have close body structures of a human, and there would be no way they could imitate her voice. Plus, such an idea totally makes no sense with the rest of the Halo storyline. I can garuntee we won't see Dare as a Covie in ODST.

The sketchy thing about her is her real motive, and what her real mission is. Not if she's a Jackal.

And, FYI, Dare's helmet is the Recon helmet we've seen in multiplayer. But, just as ODST was seen as both a marine helmet and a Spartan helmet, the Recon helmet Dare wears is a marine helmet appearently of similar build to the Recon Spartan helmet. The relation between the two and what's canon and what isn't hasn't really been cleared up by Bungie.

Bottom line? Dare's not a spartan.

  • 08.05.2009 9:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: Tai MT
Honestly, the plot twist would be quite predictable and cliché.

The real mystery isn't going to be about which side she's on... But what her ACTUAL mission is, and why the Covenant Cruiser wasn't her target.

What orders does she actually have?

heres my theory: the oni building is in new mombassa right? and it was mentioned some where that the covies were looking for something in new mombassa. so... put 2 and 2 together and.... u get 4!! lol jk. so any way... the covies were after something oni had, oni needed dare to go in and get something out the oni building and keep the covenant from getting it. thats why they dont go on the ship. as for the betrayal thingy, maybe the squad discovered this secret object and wanted to get rid of it at first and they almost got into a fight but something happend first and instead of fighting each other, they fight covies. thats my theory. oh and as for the op, u are a freaking idiot, get off the forums.

  • 08.05.2009 9:31 PM PDT

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I don't think so.

  • 08.05.2009 9:32 PM PDT

"Tank beats brute......Tank beats ghost......Tank beats everything" - enthusiastic marine after you kill/destroy the mentioned things with a scorpion on the Ark.

Dare couldn't be a covenant. Elites are the only Covenant that's tall enough and thin enough, and they're heads are in front of the shoulders, not above the shoulders. Her helmet is too big because it's a Recon helmet, meaning a Spartan helmet. Without the rest of a Spartan's armor, the helmet would look too big, no matter which helmet it was. And I don't think that Dare betrays Buck's squad. Technically, she's not part of his squad at all. She's an ONI operative, which is how she obtained her Recon helmet. If she does anything that might hender the squad, it'd be because of her orders from ONI.

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Posted by: Defiant Assasin
what spicies is the same size as a human?


The grunts are five foot, and the Jackals are like five and a half, but there's no way they would fit into that armor without some weird bulges and gaps.

  • 08.05.2009 9:56 PM PDT

"Tank beats brute......Tank beats ghost......Tank beats everything" - enthusiastic marine after you kill/destroy the mentioned things with a scorpion on the Ark.

Posted by: goatman327
Posted by: Tai MT
Honestly, the plot twist would be quite predictable and cliché.

The real mystery isn't going to be about which side she's on... But what her ACTUAL mission is, and why the Covenant Cruiser wasn't her target.

What orders does she actually have?

heres my theory: the oni building is in new mombassa right? and it was mentioned some where that the covies were looking for something in new mombassa. so... put 2 and 2 together and.... u get 4!! lol jk. so any way... the covies were after something oni had, oni needed dare to go in and get something out the oni building and keep the covenant from getting it. thats why they dont go on the ship. as for the betrayal thingy, maybe the squad discovered this secret object and wanted to get rid of it at first and they almost got into a fight but something happend first and instead of fighting each other, they fight covies. thats my theory. oh and as for the op, u are a freaking idiot, get off the forums.


The Covenant were looking for something in New Mombasa, but it wasn't in ONI's possession. Technically, what the Covenant were looking for was even IN New Mambasa, it was under. The were looking for Forunner tech, which is what they were excavating in the beginning of Halo 3. They were looking for a way to the Arc, and the means to get there was burried under New Mambasa. Pay more attention to the story line and gameplay next time.

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  • 08.05.2009 10:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: CruSHing yOu 96
If you look, it seems like dare's helmet is way oversized. There is also a rumor that she betrays the squadmates.
Is it possible that Dare died on impact, and the covenant stole her armour.
Please post your thoughts.
Dare's helmet is oversized for a reason... Shes an ONI Recon. She wears the Recon armour that is reserved for Spartans... A new Spartan? I think so...

But, you see, the Armor isn't reserved for Spartans.

And Bungie made it perfectly clear, you aren't going to make it that far in life if you keep commenting on how large peoples heads are, it's offensive. XD

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Posted by: Defiant Assasin
what spicies is the same size as a human?


The grunts are five foot, and the Jackals are like five and a half, but there's no way they would fit into that armor without some weird bulges and gaps.


Grunts are 4 foot...... In Halo 2, i heard a marine as he was killing a grunt and he said "stupid 4-foot nothing!"

  • 08.05.2009 10:19 PM PDT

Dare's armor is an ONI variant of the Spartan Recon Armor. That's most likely why it looks a little off. That or fail CGI.

She is NOT a Spartan, just an ONI Agent that has orders at the begining of the game that apparently contridict and supersede the Rookie's Squad's previous orders to drop into the Prophet's Cruiser and Capture/kill him.

She is not with the Covenant, of that I'm sure.

I see no reason to believe that she won't Betray the ODSTs though.

Intelligence agents are known for doing that kind of thing. i.e. Agent 006 betrays James Bond in the movie, "007 Goldeneye".

The world isn't black and white, she might betray them, but it's a bit ridiculous to believe that she could an alien.

Note: It's also worth noting that Buck (The Squad Leader) and Dare knew each other prior to the events of ODST. This is indicated by when, in one of the videos, Buck addresses Dare by her real name, Veronica.

  • 08.05.2009 10:33 PM PDT

Lol, funny.
If this were serious, it'd be just as bad as the Master Chief time travel theory.

  • 08.05.2009 10:34 PM PDT

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  • 08.05.2009 10:35 PM PDT

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I think Dare is a hunter.....Or a drone

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I think you are on to something..

  • 08.06.2009 12:57 AM PDT

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Posted by: HeloiseMisery
Posted by: CruSHing yOu 96
If you look, it seems like dare's helmet is way oversized. There is also a rumor that she betrays the squadmates.
Is it possible that Dare died on impact, and the covenant stole her armour.
Please post your thoughts.
Dare's helmet is oversized for a reason... Shes an ONI Recon. She wears the Recon armour that is reserved for Spartans... A new Spartan? I think so...


I noticed that also, that she is wearing the Recon armor reserved for spartans. Who knows she could be a second generation Spartan lll, hell it would be sick if they made a Spartan lV but only a small amount just to turn the tide of the war.

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One day... I am gonna grow wings... A chemical reaction... Hysterical and useless... hystecial and let down and hanging around... crushed like a bug in the ground.

Dare is not a Spartan or Covernant Alien.

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  • 08.06.2009 2:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: HeloiseMisery
Posted by: CruSHing yOu 96
If you look, it seems like dare's helmet is way oversized. There is also a rumor that she betrays the squadmates.
Is it possible that Dare died on impact, and the covenant stole her armour.
Please post your thoughts.
Dare's helmet is oversized for a reason... Shes an ONI Recon. She wears the Recon armour that is reserved for Spartans... A new Spartan? I think so...


By your logic, the ODST helmet also must be reserved for Spartans but ODST's wear them too. OH EM GEE THEY MUST BE SPARTANS!!!!????1111

What Angasboy said above^^^^^

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Posted by: Defiant Assasin
what spicies is the same size as a human?


An elite


Elite's are 8 feet tall, more like a Jackal or stretched out grunt.


Not a Grunt. Their pyramid methane tank would stick out - and you can't stretch them. They aren't rubber bands. A Jackal is a possibility, but they wouldn't talk like a human. They would screech. Well, that goes for most Covenant - they cannot replicate human speech. And we've seen her in the ViDoc talking to Buck on the ship.

Your idea just got trashed. Sorry.

  • 08.06.2009 3:01 AM PDT

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