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Subject: ODST is a better deal (money wise) if you do not already own halo 3

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What I mean by this is that ODST is not worth 60 dollars should you already own halo 3, but should you not own halo 3 it is all worth 60 dollars.

What I am trying to say is ODST is compromised of two parts, the single player and multiplayer discs, if you already own halo 3 then the multiplayer disc you are also getting doesn't matter so you are basically just buying the campaign disc for $60.

But should you not own halo 3 then you are getting the multiplayer and the campaign for sixty dollars.

Just putting this out there, I personally think a version of ODST shuld be sold that doesn't include the multiplayer disc and is around $40.

  • 08.06.2009 8:54 AM PDT

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  • 08.06.2009 8:56 AM PDT

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Hmm, good.

Why isn't everyone complaining to sell the ODST disc separately then?

  • 08.06.2009 9:00 AM PDT

Way to go Captain Obvious.

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  • 08.06.2009 9:04 AM PDT

disk 1 is worth $60 by itself

there will be no $40 version

don't want to pay?... don't buy it.

get over it

please, can people stop making these threads, actually bungie should lock any discussion of the price, it's getting ridiculous.

  • 08.06.2009 9:04 AM PDT

Reach MMO. Here's to hoping.

And the people that believe "the hardcore playlists would be more popular if the rules were strictly MLG" can come off it, now. If you're not willing to support something close to your own setup, there's no reason for us to believe that cloning our own lists and stripping the variety down will attract more people. -- Shishka, Bungie.net

Posted by: dangerbyrnes
disk 1 is worth $60 by itself

there will be no $40 version

don't want to pay?... don't buy it.

get over it

please, can people stop making these threads, actually bungie should lock any discussion of the price, it's getting ridiculous.


I think Bungie should let their fans talk about whatever they feel is important, and obviously a lot of people feel this is a big deal.

I didn't purchase the last two map packs, so ODST is turning out to be a good price for me.

  • 08.06.2009 9:11 AM PDT

Posted by: Tyguy101
Posted by: dangerbyrnes
disk 1 is worth $60 by itself

there will be no $40 version

don't want to pay?... don't buy it.

get over it

please, can people stop making these threads, actually bungie should lock any discussion of the price, it's getting ridiculous.


I think Bungie should let their fans talk about whatever they feel is important, and obviously a lot of people feel this is a big deal.

I didn't purchase the last two map packs, so ODST is turning out to be a good price for me.


no, this topic has been discussed to death, no need to beat a dead horse

any interesting or new topics are always beaten down by this recurring issue, draining this forum of any good discussions.

every single topic like this ended in a gigantic flame war that is in no way beneficial to this forum.

if people could just get over the fact that this game is $60 and will not change, this forum would be a much better place.

  • 08.06.2009 9:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: dangerbyrnes
disk 1 is worth $60 by itself


That, my friend, is a matter of opinion, and if this is so true then I must pose the question:

If disc one is worth $60 dollars alone then are they simply giving away the multiplayer disc for free? Obviously not, it also holds value and in my opinion halo 3 multiplayer has more value than the odst campaign.

  • 08.06.2009 12:49 PM PDT

Yes, first thing that popped into my mind when I heard about ODST. It's just pure disguised ripping off. Meh, Bungie can hump your monies but they aren't getting mine. I mean 60$ for a singleplayer campaign which is somewhat the length of Halo 3 and some firefight I honestly don't give a -blam!- about. If I want to shoot buttload of oncoming enemies I'll just play horde. Somehow I can't see Halo 3 doing it better than GoW2. Those pieces just don't clunk together in my brains.

[Edited on 08.06.2009 1:01 PM PDT]

  • 08.06.2009 12:54 PM PDT

It's also a good deal when your Halo 3 disc is so scratched up it's barely playable :B
Yay! I can justify $60!

  • 08.06.2009 12:58 PM PDT

Obviously people are aware of this. It's why often people lament that there isn't a cheaper version that doesn't include the stuff that makes it a better deal for those of us who don't have Halo 3. Really, all you miss out on in Halo 3: ODST is Halo 3's campaign, and Halo 3's campaign videos in Theatre mode.

To me, it sounds like one would be getting the better deal by purchasing Halo 3: ODST instead of Halo 3, given the option.

  • 08.06.2009 1:00 PM PDT

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To me, it sounds like one would be getting the better deal by purchasing Halo 3: ODST instead of Halo 3, given the option.


That was my original point, but people like to see that I'm just saying it is too expensive.

I predict that when the game goes out there with be an influx of Halo 3 multiplayer discs lying around trying to be sold on ebay and other such sites.

Personally I don't think I'll get it, but rather borrow it since all it is a single player campaign and when in this day and age I could spend my $60 on fallout or the next call of duty

  • 08.06.2009 1:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: dangerbyrnes
disk 1 is worth $60 by itself .


Not from the standpoint of someone that judges the value of something, by how much work or resources went into making it. Perhaps in the perspective of someone thats blindly loyal, even to their dieing breath. Perhaps you can see value in it from a personal perspective, but from the broader perspective its not.

The game had a year and a half production cycle, half of Halo 3s. With a team that was significantly smaller than Halo 3s. It was viewed from the very begining as an expansion, not a fullfledged game. Because it was an interm project, while Halo: Reach was gaining steam.

The reality is, the games engines are all reused from Halo 3. Most of the A.I is recycled. Most of the games sandbox (weapons, vehicles, enemies, etc) are all carbon copied from Halo 3.
The game has no unique competitive multiplayer experience to it. And the cooperative mode it does have, has no MM to it. That would all be fine, it is afterall an expansion. I would be disapointed, but not upset if Firefight couldn't have MM support because Halo 3s campaign didn't, if Microsoft was honest with themselves with their PR, and the pricing of the game. But if the game is, "so much more than an expansion", why the hell couldn't they so much as give campaign MM support, just because the Halo 3 engine didn't support it as it was.

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The reality is, the only comprehendable way, I can imagine someone can think ODST is worth it from a broad perspective, is if they are incapable of thinking broadly. Most of the assests are reused from Halo 3. If you take out all of the assests that were striped from Halo 3, the game would easily be two years away from release. And even after noting that fact, the game is shorter than Halo 3.

The reality is, much of the 60$ price goes towards content you have already purchased.

That all being said, I enjoy Halo enough, and am a big enough fan its worth it to me, from a personal perspective. But that doesn't mean im so near sighted, that I can't step outside myself, and realize to most people it won't be.

In any event, I predict either Halo 3: ODST, or Halo: Reach will suffer greatly because of ODSTs price.Either only die hard fans will pick it up. Or a lot of ignorant people are going to pick it up, and be upset when they see how closely it resembles Halo 3, and that it doesn't have its own competitive multiplayer. Despite the price of a fullfledged game. And in that disapointment they will be possibly detered from buying Halo games in the future.

I already have two people on my friends list, who think I am an idiot. Because I told them ODST won't have clan support, because it doesn't even have a unique multiplayer experience.

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I just wish there was a second version of ODST. That included Disk 1, and a code card to download the exclusive maps.



[Edited on 08.06.2009 1:28 PM PDT]

  • 08.06.2009 1:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: Buggy Virus
Hmm, good.

Why isn't everyone complaining to sell the ODST disc separately then?

Because the people who do are being drowned out by the idiots who don't think of that.

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Posted by: ghostvirus
Posted by: dangerbyrnes
disk 1 is worth $60 by itself .


Not from the standpoint of someone that judges the value of something, by how much work or resources went into making it. Perhaps in the perspective of someone thats blindly loyal, even to their dieing breath. Perhaps you can see value in it from a personal perspective, but from the broader perspective its not.
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I just wish there was a second version of ODST. That included Disk 1, and a code card to download the exclusive maps.


Great post, I completely agree with you.
I only pre-ordered it because I got it for 45 Euros (as opposed to the 60-70 Euros a regular game costs here). I don't know if Johnson is included, but I couldn't care less, really.

  • 08.06.2009 1:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: ghostvirus
Posted by: dangerbyrnes
disk 1 is worth $60 by itself .


The reality is, the only comprehendable way, I can imagine someone can think ODST is worth it from a broad perspective, is if they are incapable of thinking broadly. Most of the assests are reused from Halo 3. If you take out all of the assests that were striped from Halo 3, the game would easily be two years away from release. And even after noting that fact, the game is shorter than Halo 3.

The reality is, much of the 60$ price goes towards content you have already purchased.

That all being said, I enjoy Halo enough, and am a big enough fan its worth it to me, from a personal perspective. But that doesn't mean im so near sighted, that I can't step outside myself, and realize to most people it won't be.

In any event, I predict either Halo 3: ODST, or Halo: Reach will suffer greatly because of ODSTs price.Either only die hard fans will pick it up. Or a lot of ignorant people are going to pick it up, and be upset when they see how closely it resembles Halo 3, and that it doesn't have its own competitive multiplayer. Despite the price of a fullfledged game. And in that disapointment they will be possibly detered from buying Halo games in the future.

I already have two people on my friends list, who think I am an idiot. Because I told them ODST won't have clan support, because it doesn't even have a unique multiplayer experience.


I must agree that as long as ODST uses the same underlying system it cannot be a new game, two new weapons and a visor do not make a new game.
Generally had ODST had a new matchmaking where everyone was an ODST it would still be the same system of halo 3 and still yet not be worth $60.

  • 08.06.2009 1:43 PM PDT

ghostvirus, i completely agree. that was a great post.

to the OP, i also think they should sell two versions of the game. i mean, the campaign/firefight are on a completely seperate disc than the Halo 3 multiplayer disc. how can they justify not selling two versions? how can ANYONE justify not selling two versions?

it's pretty obvious why they aren't going to do it: because almost NOONE would buy the more expensive version that includes the Halo 3 multiplayer disc. everyone would get the version that only had campaign/firefight. why? because the only people who will be buying Halo 3: ODST are fans of the Halo franchise, and therefore, at least 98% of them already own Halo 3.

loyal fans of the franchise who have spent money on their games, and have bought ALL of the map packs are being screwed over, plain and simple.

  • 08.06.2009 2:02 PM PDT