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I really think weapons should have changeable firing modes.

For example - With the BR, We could have the much wanted 1 shot mode, while being allowed to change the 3 burst shot (although this would be less accurate).

With the AR, we can have the inaccurate automatic fire, but get the option for a single shot mode, most likely take snipers and BR's out of their scopes.

Halo can only benefit from this feature!

  • 08.08.2009 6:46 AM PDT
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why would you want NOT to fire 3 bullets instead of 1 with the BR?

  • 08.08.2009 6:52 AM PDT
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Well, 3 burst round would be more inaccurate, obviously.

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No it would remove the point of multiple weapons. Why Have a Carbine if the BR can simulate it. Rate of Fire is one of the things that makes weapons unique, there is no need to close that gap.

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No, it would not.

The point of multiple weapons is to have the best of both worlds, such as having a sniper and a shot gun, or an SMG and a rocket launcher.

The carbine and the BR are both very similar, they both kill enemies just as quick and usually deal the same damage. The carbine is pretty useless if you have a BR, and vise versa. So why not keep one, and remove the other?

Its just better to have changeable firing modes, so you don't over complicate the weapon selection with too many choices.

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An AR with semi-auto? Seriously? Can you imagine that in your head dude? Your trying to simulate the more accurate mangum?
What do you want next? A fully automatic Sniper Rifle?

  • 08.08.2009 7:22 AM PDT
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Posted by: MysticHobo91
No, it would not.

The point of multiple weapons is to have the best of both worlds, such as having a sniper and a shot gun, or an SMG and a rocket launcher.

The carbine and the BR are both very similar, they both kill enemies just as quick and usually deal the same damage. The carbine is pretty useless if you have a BR, and vise versa. So why not keep one, and remove the other?

Its just better to have changeable firing modes, so you don't over complicate the weapon selection with too many choices.


It takes away the point of multiple guns. Weapons need to be unique. The BR/Carbine work good in the same game. I find the BR better at long range because 3 round burst makes headshots easier but the Carbine is better in close range because of its faster rate of fire. See the different rates of fire allow the weapons to have different functions Select fire would also allows one weapon to perform more jobs than it should. A singleshot BR would be much better in close range, just look at the carbine now. Select fire would -blam!- this game up so bad.

  • 08.08.2009 7:29 AM PDT

Just get rid of the carbine and make some of the existing weapns more balanced.

  • 08.08.2009 8:36 AM PDT

Posted by: Brentc3
An AR with semi-auto? Seriously? Can you imagine that in your head dude? Your trying to simulate the more accurate mangum?
What do you want next? A fully automatic Sniper Rifle?


Fully automatic sniper rifle would kick ass

  • 08.08.2009 9:11 AM PDT
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It takes away the point of multiple guns. Weapons need to be unique. The BR/Carbine work good in the same game. I find the BR better at long range because 3 round burst makes headshots easier but the Carbine is better in close range because of its faster rate of fire. See the different rates of fire allow the weapons to have different functions Select fire would also allows one weapon to perform more jobs than it should. A singleshot BR would be much better in close range, just look at the carbine now. Select fire would -blam!- this game up so bad.

No, it does not.
If an Assault rifle had an option for a rocket laucher, or a sniper rifle had an option for some sort of "spread shot" similar to shotguns, THAT would take away the point of multiple guns.
This, however, would only take away the unneeded weapons that have tiny changes in them, like the carbine and the BR. The carbine may have a slightly faster rate of fire, but it still deals about the same damage, accuracy, and power of a BR.

  • 08.09.2009 10:49 AM PDT
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Actually, Almost every assault rifle of today has a semi, burst and automatic firing mode in one.

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Posted by: MysticHobo91
It takes away the point of multiple guns. Weapons need to be unique. The BR/Carbine work good in the same game. I find the BR better at long range because 3 round burst makes headshots easier but the Carbine is better in close range because of its faster rate of fire. See the different rates of fire allow the weapons to have different functions Select fire would also allows one weapon to perform more jobs than it should. A singleshot BR would be much better in close range, just look at the carbine now. Select fire would -blam!- this game up so bad.

No, it does not.
If an Assault rifle had an option for a rocket laucher, or a sniper rifle had an option for some sort of "spread shot" similar to shotguns, THAT would take away the point of multiple guns.
This, however, would only take away the unneeded weapons that have tiny changes in them, like the carbine and the BR. The carbine may have a slightly faster rate of fire, but it still deals about the same damage, accuracy, and power of a BR.


Good job reading half of my post. The BR would be way to effective that way. The Carbine isn't unneeded it works because it has different abilities than the BR. If the BR could fire single shot that would make it better for close quarters and making it unbalanced because know it is good at close, mid and long range. Your idea throws the balance of Halo in a dumpster and -blam!-s on it.

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Posted by: MysticHobo91
Actually, Almost every assault rifle of today has a semi, burst and automatic firing mode in one.



Is this real life? Its a game things are done that make no sense because it works for gameplay.

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Posted by: Brentc3
An AR with semi-auto? Seriously? Can you imagine that in your head dude? Your trying to simulate the more accurate mangum?
What do you want next? A fully automatic Sniper Rifle?


It really isn't that hard to imagine. He's trying to think of more realistic weapons. Realistic weapons have different fire settings. And there is no such thing as a fully automatic sniper rifle. You're just taking it too far.

  • 08.09.2009 11:05 AM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Not for firing modes, but for alternate fire modes like for the plasma pistol.

  • 08.09.2009 12:02 PM PDT

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Good job reading half of my post. The BR would be way to effective that way. The Carbine isn't unneeded it works because it has different abilities than the BR. If the BR could fire single shot that would make it better for close quarters and making it unbalanced because know it is good at close, mid and long range. Your idea throws the balance of Halo in a dumpster and -blam!-s on it.

I have seen all you're post.

Look, the BR is as nearly effective at close range as the carbine is. The BR can even beat AR's at close range easily, but the point is, both the carbine and BR are extremely similar, regardless of the range.
If the BR was a 1 shot it would only more accurate,given that 3 shot would actually make it more effective at short range due to the fact it would be more fast firing. All Bungie has to do is reduce the accuracy when it is in 3-shot mode, and then it is balanced.

And please don't flame.....

  • 08.09.2009 12:25 PM PDT
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Don't be an idiot, I was responding to someone who made out that a single shot AR would be unrealistic, so i'm just saying its reality.

  • 08.09.2009 12:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: Brentc3

What do you want next? A fully automatic Sniper Rifle?


Fully automatic sniper rifle would kick ass


Yes, completely impractical, but yes.

  • 08.09.2009 12:31 PM PDT

Bungie crafts each weapon to fit a specific role - when you add such an option, you destroy that balance. Why grab an AR or a Carbine if the BR can fulfill both their roles? And considering it's a BR, why grab anything else?

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Bungie crafts each weapon to fit a specific role - when you add such an option, you destroy that balance. Why grab an AR or a Carbine if the BR can fulfill both their roles? And considering it's a BR, why grab anything else?

When did i say there would be an option for a fully automatic BR?

Both that carbine and BR are the same, with minor differences. This makes the carbine pretty useless if you have an BR.
This system will eliminate unneeded weapons.

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Posted by: MysticHobo91
Bungie crafts each weapon to fit a specific role - when you add such an option, you destroy that balance. Why grab an AR or a Carbine if the BR can fulfill both their roles? And considering it's a BR, why grab anything else?

When did i say there would be an option for a fully automatic BR?

Both that carbine and BR are the same, with minor differences. This makes the carbine pretty useless if you have an BR.
This system will eliminate unneeded weapons.


The BR and Carbine are no where near as identical as you are implying. I have already said this twice and each time you proceed to say they are even though I have already said why they're different. Then you say the BR could be single shot and three round burst. Well guess what that would be unbalanced as I have already explained. Please stop repeating yourself so I can stop doing it.

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Posted by: MysticHobo91
I really think weapons should have changeable firing modes.

For example - With the BR, We could have the much wanted 1 shot mode, while being allowed to change the 3 burst shot (although this would be less accurate).

With the AR, we can have the inaccurate automatic fire, but get the option for a single shot mode, most likely take snipers and BR's out of their scopes.

Halo can only benefit from this feature!



With the AR i think you should also get a 3 round burst. Because in the Halo books the spartans did it.

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Posted by: MysticHobo91
Bungie crafts each weapon to fit a specific role - when you add such an option, you destroy that balance. Why grab an AR or a Carbine if the BR can fulfill both their roles? And considering it's a BR, why grab anything else?

When did i say there would be an option for a fully automatic BR?

Both that carbine and BR are the same, with minor differences. This makes the carbine pretty useless if you have an BR.
This system will eliminate unneeded weapons.


The BR and Carbine are no where near as identical as you are implying. I have already said this twice and each time you proceed to say they are even though I have already said why they're different. Then you say the BR could be single shot and three round burst. Well guess what that would be unbalanced as I have already explained. Please stop repeating yourself so I can stop doing it.


The carbine is a single shot version of the BR (biggest difference) They both have instant head shot kills, and they both deal relatively the same damage and have the near same accuracy. You may say the carbine is suited for short range due to the fact that it is "faster firing", but truth is, the BR almost just as effective as the carbine at close range.They both kill just as quick as each other. Im speaking this from my own experience, so im not going to argue about it....

  • 08.09.2009 12:58 PM PDT
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Carbine is generally better than the BR at close range due to faster rate of fire

BR is generally better than the Carbine at long range due to easier headshots

They are generally equals at mid range

The balance works fine between them. No need to turn both of these balanced weapons into a single unbalanced weapon. They both do a similar job but they have their strengths and weaknesses and that is why they work in the same game, if you can't see that your'e an idiot.


Look at the two snipers, they do the same job but in a different manner. The AR and Plasma Rifle do the same job. The shotgun and sword do the same job but the sword is better against people who don't have a shotgun and the shotgun is better against opponents who have the sword. Halo has multiple weapons that fill the same role but do so in a unique manner.

Learn to Halo -blam!-.

The plasma and frags do the same job. Should we instead have a single godly and unbalanced, bouncing grenade that sticks to targets. Combining two weapons with similar roles together would create an unbalanced weapon. Do you want a shotgun that is a one hit kill in the swords lunge range instead of a sword and shotgun?

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