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Subject: Nerf The Shotgun Seriously

Were it so easy.

Yeah...uhh..ok there are 4 close range weapons in the game, why does a shotgun thats probably something we could make today completely own the sword, gravity hammer, and mauler. Personally I think each close range weapon should be stronger than 1 other and weaker than 1 other, for example; Sword beats Gravity Hammer, Gravity Hammer beats Mualer, Dual maulers beat shotgun (since it needs to be dual, I say the mauler should be have a little father range, or atleast less damage reduction the farther it gets, that way duals can out reach a shotty).

[Edited on 08.08.2009 5:01 PM PDT]

  • 08.08.2009 4:45 PM PDT
Subject: Nerf The Shottgun Seriously

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

The shotgun is fine. And they did nerf it from Halo 2.

  • 08.08.2009 4:46 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

So completely owning the other 3 close range weapons is fine? Not to mention shottguns are like on every map, 2 on the pit even...

  • 08.08.2009 4:48 PM PDT

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Nerf it? It's way to weak already, I'd rather have the Halo: CE shotgun.

  • 08.08.2009 4:48 PM PDT

Ugh...

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The shotgun is already incredibly nerfed. Go play Halo: Combat evolved and see the shotgun in that game. Go play a quick match on Halo 2, see how beast the shotgun is in that game.

Shotgun is a counter to the energy sword. Which means, limited ammo (unlike Halo:CE and Halo 2's shotgun) but still deals a powerful hit at close range.

If the shotgun were nerfed, what could stand up against the sword at close range?

  • 08.08.2009 4:49 PM PDT

Big Team Battle Multiflag/Slayer on Standoff/Valhalla/Sandtrap/Avalanche = Win

Energy Sword vs Gravity Hammer = Bulltrue.

  • 08.08.2009 4:49 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

Uhh the gravity hammer beats the sword as well. I've never ran out of ammo on a shotgun, ammo is very rarely the issue, each bullet kills somebody so I've gotten frenzys from the shotty, trust me, the ammo is fine.

What I'm suggesting is more reasonable, the shotty still beats sword and gravity hammer, but dual maulers beat it and the sword can actually kill more than 1 close range weapon.

[Edited on 08.08.2009 4:52 PM PDT]

  • 08.08.2009 4:50 PM PDT

Energy sword is better than shotgun, but shotgun is better against a sword guy. Gravity hammer's perk is pushing, much like the swords is lunging.

Maulers beat shotgun when you dual wield.

  • 08.08.2009 4:51 PM PDT

Are you kidding me? A real shotgun can kill up to about 50 yards. This shotgun, which is an 8 guage (Which is huge by the way) kills only within melee range. And that is like 10 feet.

Any more nerfed you might as well just shoot paintballs.

  • 08.08.2009 4:52 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
Are you kidding me? A real shotgun can kill up to about 50 yards. This shotgun, which is an 8 guage (Which is huge by the way) kills only within melee range. And that is like 10 feet.

Any more nerfed you might as well just shoot paintballs.

Well no -blam!- its 10 yards, when your fighting any close range weapons 10 yards is plenty, not to mention is the perfect camping weapon, if you think its underpowered then I have no idea what game you've been playing.

  • 08.08.2009 4:53 PM PDT
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-blam!- that. Make the shotgun better, as in Halo: CE. Its such a POS now that all you can do is camp with it. Why the Hell would a sword of any make beat an 8 gauge magnum? Shotgun rounds travel farther than a sword's reach and much faster. I really hope the sword and hammer are on no maps by default and that they are really only there for zombies.

  • 08.08.2009 4:55 PM PDT

Ugh...

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Posted by: Kanova
It is fine, if you don't know how to handle a shotgun wielder, let me tell you.
Jump
Grenades
Run backwards
Have a good gun, which a good thing every gun can beat a shotgun if you use it right, just put maybe 7 feet between you and him and you win. Quit you -blam!-en
LOL, running backwards just about does it. Just don't run into such obvious campers.

If it happens once, shame on the camper, if it happens twice, shame on you!

  • 08.08.2009 4:55 PM PDT

Hmm, let me check, the game I am playing is, wait for it, Halo 3.

Posted by: LinkLegend0
Well no -blam!- its 10 yards, when your fighting any close range weapons 10 yards is plenty, not to mention is the perfect camping weapon, if you think its underpowered then I have no idea what game you've been playing.


Too bad that when someone else has a br, they most likely kill you before you can get in close enough to kill them.

Also, instead of rushing into where somebody is camping, how about using them grenades? I mean, there is a reason why they are in the game.

  • 08.08.2009 4:56 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

Your missing the point entirely. The shottgun beats every close range weapon, what I'm suggesting is that atleast 1 close range weapon beats it. Yes, you can beat it with long rnage, but you can do that to all the other close rnage weapons too. Not to mention in small place like the snowbound structures with shield doors, its hard to not get beat by the shottgun, regardless of longer range weapons.

[Edited on 08.08.2009 5:00 PM PDT]

  • 08.08.2009 4:59 PM PDT

Ugh...

First on a BWU.. yeah, I'm cool.

ODST;MYTHIC Screenshot winner! One of the first to get their hands on the mythic map pack.

Posted by: LinkLegend0
Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
Are you kidding me? A real shotgun can kill up to about 50 yards. This shotgun, which is an 8 guage (Which is huge by the way) kills only within melee range. And that is like 10 feet.

Any more nerfed you might as well just shoot paintballs.

Well no -blam!- its 10 yards, when your fighting any close range weapons 10 yards is plenty, not to mention is the perfect camping weapon, if you think its underpowered then I have no idea what game you've been playing.
Halo: CE and Halo 2.

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Posted by: LinkLegend0
Your missing the point entirely. The shottgun beats every close range weapon, what I'm suggesting is that atleast 1 close range weapon beats it. Yes, you can beat it with long rnage, but you can do that to all the other close rnage weapons too. Not to mention in small place like the snowbound structures with shield doors, its hard to not get beat by the shottgun, regardless of longer range weapons.


That sounds like whinnying. You have no point.

  • 08.08.2009 5:05 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Halo CE shotgun was fine, Halo 2 shotgun was good as long as you were host. Halo 3 shotgun is a joke.

  • 08.08.2009 5:07 PM PDT

I must agree, the shotgun does beet other close range weapons. But it isn't so bad because those weapons are absolutely useless. Thanks Bungie!

  • 08.08.2009 5:12 PM PDT

Get Some!!

Posted by: LinkLegend0
Your missing the point entirely. The shotgun beats every close range weapon, what I'm suggesting is that atleast 1 close range weapon beats it. Yes, you can beat it with long range, but you can do that to all the other close range weapons too. Not to mention in small place like the snowbound structures with shield doors, its hard to not get beat by the shottgun, regardless of longer range weapons.

if you see someone camping behind a shield door with a shotgun, just walk away and go somewhere else...

  • 08.08.2009 5:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: POKEY CLYDE
The shotgun is already incredibly nerfed. Go play Halo: Combat evolved and see the shotgun in that game. Go play a quick match on Halo 2, see how beast the shotgun is in that game.

Shotgun is a counter to the energy sword. Which means, limited ammo (unlike Halo:CE and Halo 2's shotgun) but still deals a powerful hit at close range.

If the shotgun were nerfed, what could stand up against the sword at close range?



Posted by: POKEY CLYDE
The shotgun is already incredibly nerfed. Go play Halo: Combat evolved and see the shotgun in that game. Go play a quick match on Halo 2, see how beast the shotgun is in that game.



Posted by: POKEY CLYDE
Go play a quick match on Halo 2, see how beast the shotgun is in that game.
Hold on, the Halo 2 shotgun, a beast? Did we play the same Halo 2? As I seem to recall, the only time the shotgun was usable was when you were host. There is a reason why the Halo 2 shotgun was called the "Lottery Cannon." Hell, the whole reason why people meleed after a shotgun shot was to insure that they killed someone, due to how unreliable it was.


Anyways, OP, I disagree. If anything, the shotgun needs to be more like how it was in Halo 1. It needs to have more range and power.




  • 08.08.2009 5:16 PM PDT

Ohai, I'm Loscocco (pronounced Loss-cocoa). I'm a college student (computer science major), 3D animator, and long-time Halo player.

Its SUPPOSED to be better than the other weapons.

Sword- you have to directly melee a player to kill. Same with gravity hammer (or extremely close)

Maulers- dont do enough damage, but you can duel wield. They are supposed to be much weaker than the shotgun- that is why they are miniature sized shotguns....

  • 08.08.2009 5:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
I must agree, the shotgun does beet other close range weapons. But it isn't so bad because those weapons are absolutely useless. Thanks Bungie!


Thats the same reason the BR isnt overpowered in my eyes. Everything else is useless and thats why everyone rushes for a versatile midrange weapon. Bungie needs to make all weapons versatile in someway like that game called Halo: Combat Evolved.

  • 08.08.2009 5:19 PM PDT

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The Gravity Hammer should have a little more range than it does now, I think maulers should have a greater rate of fire. But the shotgun is fine how it is.

  • 08.08.2009 5:24 PM PDT

That actually makes some really good sense.

Posted by: Lunatic__Brandon
Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
I must agree, the shotgun does beet other close range weapons. But it isn't so bad because those weapons are absolutely useless. Thanks Bungie!


Thats the same reason the BR isnt overpowered in my eyes. Everything else is useless and thats why everyone rushes for a versatile midrange weapon. Bungie needs to make all weapons versatile in someway like that game called Halo: Combat Evolved.

  • 08.08.2009 5:25 PM PDT

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