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Subject: Why there probably won't be a Demo.

Posted by: urk
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Okay, there's too many threads floating around about this. So I've decided to repost something I put down in another demo thread to help explain why people are saying "no demo."

Demos are something put out to give to the public to enjoy and gauge reactions towards a snippet of the game. They can be short snippets of the campaign, the Multiplayer, or both.

Betas are the same thing, but exclusively for Multiplayer. They usually are used for MMOs, but other games can use them if there are large Multiplayer aspects involved to the game (Such as the interaction between BNet and Halo 3, stat tracking, Video / Screenshot uploading, large numbers of people playing, etc). They are generally released for a short amount of time.

Demos are worse than Betas because of their replayability. People will play the demo of a game they like a lot, right? Halo Wars is an example of this, and suffered for it. People played the demo so much that not only did they know everything about the first two missions, they also got bored of it. So when Ensemble released the full game with more units, features, and capabilities, the game was "boring" to some people. When Bungie released the Halo 3 Beta for three weeks people played that but there were only three maps, many weapons left out, a cut down theater mode, and no Forge. It ended, and people waited until September 25th to play it again.

That's also why A-List titles shouldn't get a demo until after they're released (Like Activision does with CoD).

Edit: Just to clear things up I don't mean Beta builds or versions of a game. I'm refering to the public Betas like the ones that Bungie and Infinity Ward did in 2007 for their games.

[Edited on 08.09.2009 1:18 PM PDT]

  • 08.09.2009 11:57 AM PDT
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Or you can just go by Bungie's word saying they wont.

BTW never mention CoD in this forum. Your asking for trouble.

  • 08.09.2009 11:59 AM PDT

Posted by: urk
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Posted by: QWERTYcommander
BTW never mention CoD in this forum. Your asking for trouble.
I just said that it's an A-List game and gets demos around release. It's a good idea to release a demo after release to help the people still on the fence of buying the game.

  • 08.09.2009 12:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: RabidNutCase45
Posted by: QWERTYcommander
BTW never mention CoD in this forum. Your asking for trouble.
I just said that it's an A-List game and gets demos around release. It's a good idea to release a demo after release to help the people still on the fence of buying the game.

Didnt help halo wars, lol. They were better off confincing idiots they were an fps.
BTW I get ur point bout CoD though.

  • 08.09.2009 12:13 PM PDT

The only problem is that Bungie did release a demo for ODST.

  • 08.09.2009 12:49 PM PDT

What are you on about... no they didnt

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  • 08.09.2009 12:51 PM PDT

Posted by: MasterChief6587
What are you on about... no they didnt

E3 2009. Comic-Con 2009.
All had demos of Firefight.
=)

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Posted by: MA5C 7RUTH
The only problem is that Bungie did release a demo for ODST.

For use of confrences and the like. Nothing a normal fan can get his hands on.

  • 08.09.2009 12:53 PM PDT

Posted by: QWERTYcommander
Posted by: MA5C 7RUTH
The only problem is that Bungie did release a demo for ODST.

For use of confrences and the like. Nothing a normal fan can get his hands on.

Anyone could have gone to Comic Con. It just takes a long time to walk there.

  • 08.09.2009 12:54 PM PDT

nooooooooooooooooooooo this could not be true but if it is im going to get it the day it comes out halo is the best game going as a shooter
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  • 08.09.2009 12:55 PM PDT

listen if u were -blam!- listening the point of a demo is you can play it 1000 times intil you get bored... i somehow doubt you could fit 1000 goes in during the... what like 7 days of comic con...


by "the point of a demo" i mean thats what he says the problem is

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  • 08.09.2009 12:56 PM PDT

Posted by: MasterChief6587
listen if u were -blam!- listening the point of a demo is you can play it 1000 times intil you get bored... i somehow doubt you could fit 1000 goes in during the... what like 7 days of comic con...

So then we could classify it as a Beta.
Either way, they had one.

  • 08.09.2009 12:57 PM PDT

Bungie said there wouldn't be a demo, and i think you are getting a beta confuzzled. there certainly was at one point a beta for ODST. Hell, There was probably an alpha for it. But these were all private, and kept to the hallowed halls of bungie studios. You can get a beta of anything, and it's best to think of a beta as a partly tested proto-type, before ironing out the crease, and removing any bugs. Public betas do this better, because there are more people to do it.

  • 08.09.2009 1:09 PM PDT

Posted by: urk
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Posted by: Ninjadude989
Bungie said there wouldn't be a demo, and i think you are getting a beta confuzzled. there certainly was at one point a beta for ODST. Hell, There was probably an alpha for it. But these were all private, and kept to the hallowed halls of bungie studios. You can get a beta of anything, and it's best to think of a beta as a partly tested proto-type, before ironing out the crease, and removing any bugs. Public betas do this better, because there are more people to do it.
Yeah, I meant a public Beta. It'd be silly talking about a glitchy Beta version. :P

Also, I wasn't refering to the private demos at E3, Comic-Con, and wherever else the game has been shown. Those demos are fine, mostly because of the horrifying lines.

  • 08.09.2009 1:17 PM PDT

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By demo he means, a cut down version of the game that is available for download to the public.

Not a preview of a game that was played by 0.0000000000001% of the world population.

  • 08.09.2009 1:23 PM PDT

if there is a demo it should have 5 maps

hetetic
longshore
the other new map forgot the name
guardian
and a different one

1 map for firefight

it wont have forge or costum in the beta

half of the first mission

plus 3 matchmaking playlists

2 non ranked

and 1 ranked playlist to show how they are going to rank it

  • 08.09.2009 1:39 PM PDT