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Subject: To time traveler theorists...

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Let me tell you why you are wrong.

If I can almost assure you something, is the following. This is my theory regarding time travel.

According to your theory, Master Chief can go back in time and alter the fate of Reach, creating an alternate timeline where none of the Halo events happened. This has to be wrong.
Even tough I can't prove this, I'm almost sure there's only ONE timeline in our universe, timeline in which you may be able to travel back and forth.

Recall Harry Potter and the prisioner of azkaban. Harry tought someone have thrown him the stone when he was at Hagrid's. When he traveled back in time, he discovered it was himself who had thrown it.

A friend someday said: I would like to know what would happen if I went back in time and killed my mom before I was born. Would another world without me and my mom have been created?
The answer is NO. Just for the fact you actually exist, it means you could not have killed you mom in the past no matter what you have done.

The same applies here: Due that the Halo events HAPPENED, Master Chief could not have done anything to stop them in Reach.

I'm sorry, Dragon Ball Z is WRONG.

AS a matter of fact, I'd like to say this is just an opinion and what it sounds most logical to me as truth. I'd like to hear what do you think.

PS: This is fiction. Anything could happen.

[Edited on 08.09.2009 5:51 PM PDT]

  • 08.09.2009 5:49 PM PDT

mhm interesting theory thanks

  • 08.09.2009 5:52 PM PDT

have you heard about Event Horizon??

there are other universes and other timelines, but make that in Halo would be stupid.
Master Chief is lost in the edge of the galaxy.

You r right, but to me people make mistakes like this because they think too much about something unknown (we only have a 1:17 minutes trailer) the result = stupid and crazy theories.

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My response to them will be: STFU AND LEAVE!!!!!

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Posted by: purew4rrior
mhm interesting theory thanks

no u.

  • 08.09.2009 6:07 PM PDT

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Time travel should be non-existant in Halo (Except those Crystals).

But I disagree with you on the whole "Alternate Timeline" thing in what way can you disprove multiple timelines? Like a poster said above me, the "Event Horizon" were choices and events lead to different strings of timelines that can possibly crossover(A Far'fetched Theory for Deja Vu') and such.

Using examples from Harry Potter isnt the best way to back up a point about disproving alternate timelines.


I will conclude my post by saying:

Cortana = Future Skynet.

  • 08.09.2009 6:08 PM PDT

"If you push this button. Someone. Somewhere will die.

BUT.

You will, hey wait! Didn't you wanna hear what you'd get first!"

Posted by: OmegaSpartan91
I'm sorry, Dragon Ball Z is WRONG.


YAY! Someone agrees with me!

Anyway I've been thinking along this line for a while as well. But then another though came across my mind. What if we did go back in time to do something. Perhaps some events unexplained could be explained, by the theory that a time traveler did such. Recall RvB. In the first episode the Blue teams leader had already died. No person knew how, they assumed heart attack. But in a later episode it was revealed that Church had killed him, by traveling back in time and giving him pills to stop the death, which were actually the cause of the death themselves! Same goes for a few other things within the series. Maybe it is possible to do such without disturbing the flow of time, and all we are witnessing is the final result.

  • 08.09.2009 6:09 PM PDT

Armor Lock isn't overpowered. You just suck at Reach :)

Reach isn't bad, you're just a BK :)

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Time travel theory is just stupid all around. So I agree.

  • 08.09.2009 6:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: Chunky_Lover
Time travel should be non-existant in Halo (Except those Crystals).

But I disagree with you on the whole "Alternate Timeline" thing in what way can you disprove multiple timelines? Like a poster said above me, the "Event Horizon" were choices and events lead to different strings of timelines that can possibly crossover(A Far'fetched Theory for Deja Vu') and such.

Using examples from Harry Potter isnt the best way to back up a point about disproving alternate timelines.


I will conclude my post by saying:

Cortana = Future Skynet.


I'm just using Harry Potter to explain my theory, not to use it as a source or to say it is true.
My whole thread is based on supposition. My friend's comment and HP are just to explain myself.

  • 08.09.2009 6:11 PM PDT

"If you push this button. Someone. Somewhere will die.

BUT.

You will, hey wait! Didn't you wanna hear what you'd get first!"

I suppose though that while I may say it is possible, I do think that the story does not revolve around time travel in anyway. Cept mebe a guest appearance after beaten on mythic. (Please Bungie Please!)

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I agree

  • 08.09.2009 6:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: OmegaSpartan91
I'm sorry, Dragon Ball Z is WRONG.


YAY! Someone agrees with me!

Anyway I've been thinking along this line for a while as well. But then another though came across my mind. What if we did go back in time to do something. Perhaps some events unexplained could be explained, by the theory that a time traveler did such. Recall RvB. In the first episode the Blue teams leader had already died. No person knew how, they assumed heart attack. But in a later episode it was revealed that Church had killed him, by traveling back in time and giving him pills to stop the death, which were actually the cause of the death themselves! Same goes for a few other things within the series. Maybe it is possible to do such without disturbing the flow of time, and all we are witnessing is the final result.


This reminds me of another paradox.

In Terminator 2, adult future John Connor sent a hacked Schawrzenegger to protect himself as a child from the liquid dude. Does that mean young Connor sent a hacked terminator in the future BECAUSE HE KNEW he had to? Or it was just destiny?

Either way, Terminator is also against my theory, because the fact that adult Connor is alive, it means young Connor could have not been killed, so sending a hacked Schwarzenegger was completely unnecesary.

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  • 08.09.2009 6:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: redearth
Posted by: OmegaSpartan91
I'm sorry, Dragon Ball Z is WRONG.


YAY! Someone agrees with me!

Anyway I've been thinking along this line for a while as well. But then another though came across my mind. What if we did go back in time to do something. Perhaps some events unexplained could be explained, by the theory that a time traveler did such. Recall RvB. In the first episode the Blue teams leader had already died. No person knew how, they assumed heart attack. But in a later episode it was revealed that Church had killed him, by traveling back in time and giving him pills to stop the death, which were actually the cause of the death themselves! Same goes for a few other things within the series. Maybe it is possible to do such without disturbing the flow of time, and all we are witnessing is the final result.


This reminds me of another paradox.

In Terminator 2, adult future John Connor sent a hacked Schawrzenegger to protect himself as a child from the liquid dude. Does that mean young Connor sent a hacked terminator in the future BECAUSE HE KNEW he had to? Or it was just destiny?

Either way, Terminator is also against my theory, because the fact that adult Connor is alive, it means John Connor could have not been killed, so sending a hacked Schwarzenegger was completely unnecesary.
If I recall, in Terminator, Sarah Connor (John's Mother) created tapes for John to listen to, and told him everything that Kyle Reese had told her about the future.

He needed to send Kyle Reese and a T-800 back in time to save himself and save the future, from another timeline.......thinking about the Terminator Franchise makes my head hurt.

  • 08.09.2009 6:20 PM PDT

"If you push this button. Someone. Somewhere will die.

BUT.

You will, hey wait! Didn't you wanna hear what you'd get first!"

There's also the whole future father thing, with John Connor's dad being younger than him.

  • 08.09.2009 6:20 PM PDT

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Firstly dont diss Dragon ball Z. There is more fans that will back it up then Halo could muster.

Time travel could actually be possible in the Halo world it has happened in the books, read first strike.
When you find it message me and i'll give you a big cookie.

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DBZ suxxxxs

  • 08.09.2009 6:22 PM PDT

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The thing is, time travel theories never work due to paradoxes. The very fact that someone traveld back in time, alters the current timeline. Thus setting off a chain of events that lead to a new time line being formed. With this new time line, the events that have transpired before (Events in the Halo trilogy) mean nothing at all.

  • 08.09.2009 6:34 PM PDT

It'd be like to movie Deja Vu, very, very confusing. He died in the end to prevent himself from needing to die.

You can't say time travel wouldn't fit, because we know nothing about how time travel works. I'm pretty sure J.K Rowling, whilst a great author, isn't a scientist.

  • 08.09.2009 6:37 PM PDT

"If you push this button. Someone. Somewhere will die.

BUT.

You will, hey wait! Didn't you wanna hear what you'd get first!"

Ah, but paradoxes can be avoided. Read my earlier post. They can be avoided by saying we are living in a final universe. Everything that happens happens. There can be more than one of you, because you can be two different people but the same. See Terminator and RvB.

  • 08.09.2009 6:37 PM PDT

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Dont you mean alternate universes? Its a possibility, but we are talking about theories and videogames here.

  • 08.09.2009 6:40 PM PDT

I'm going to stick by my theory that no matter what you try to change, the end result will always be the same.

  • 08.09.2009 6:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wolverfrog
I'm going to stick by my theory that no matter what you try to change, the end result will always be the same.


WIN. That's what I mean. Nice summary.

  • 08.09.2009 6:42 PM PDT

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Me too

  • 08.09.2009 6:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wolverfrog
It'd be like to movie Deja Vu, very, very confusing. He died in the end to prevent himself from needing to die.

You can't say time travel wouldn't fit, because we know nothing about how time travel works. I'm pretty sure J.K Rowling, whilst a great author, isn't a scientist.


Yeah but doesn't it sound more logical to believe there's only one timeline?

  • 08.09.2009 10:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: OmegaSpartan91
I'm sorry, Dragon Ball Z is WRONG.


Blasphemy.

but to be honest, it can go both ways.

before I try to explain this, watch this video

now that you have done so, I don't have to explain as deeply.

In Harry Potter, Harry and Hermione traveled backwards in the 4th dimension.

In Dragonball Z, Cell and Trunks travelled backwards in the 5th dimension.
The 4th dimension is only percievable in a straight line, while the 5th is percievable as a ``Family Tree`` of sorts.

In the 4th Dimension, the path of time is set, and cannot be changed. However, the 5th dimension shows the map of all possible options, andf when you travel back along the line, you can take a different turn.


So it is theoretically possible that A time machine can travel backwards and change NOTHING, or travel backwards and change everything.

  • 08.09.2009 10:33 PM PDT