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Subject: Still rated M?

If this is the state of my art, then I secede.

Okay, I can understand Halo 3 being rated M because of the Flood, but I don't understand Halo 3: ODST being rated M. From what I've seen, there is very little blood, no gore, and PG-13 curse words.

In Halo 3, the gore was the flood. The ESRB considered the flood to be gorey because of the way they look, and because they tend to explode when you melee them. I couldn't find a "review" of Halo 3 from the ESRB, but I did find this. GamerDad.com:

Halo 3 is rated M-Mature by the ESRB and GamerDad.com publicly disagrees with that rating. The violence in the game is basic gunplay with only rare red blood spray with much of the blood being of the bright blue or purple alien variety. The bad language amounts to "damn" and "hell" and since this is a game your teenager is going to beg you for - parents need to know that this isn't a battle that's worth fighting. Halo 3 is basic shooter combat with none of the mature story or gameplay themes found in other M rated games. When compared with PG-13 movies or television, Halo 3 doesn't even rate as offensive - except maybe the Flood. Flood are a zombie like contagion thingie that spreads fast, kills lots of good guys, is fairly terrifying, and results in gouts of red blood as you destroy it. Despite even that, the game feels misrated at Mature. Worth a look, but not an argument, Halo 3 could always be a rental. See what you think. What's your parental age rating?


Now, in Halo 3: ODST, they have taken off the "gore" label, but still have blood, language, and violence. This was their (the ESRB) reasoning for ODST's M rating. "This is a first-person shooter in which players engage in futuristic battles against invading aliens. Players use pistols, sniper rifles, machine guns, and rocket launchers to shoot and kill enemies during the constant and fast-paced battle. Firefights are highlighted by camera effects (e.g., blurring and screen shakes) and realistic sound effects, including screams of pain, gunfire, and explosions. Puffs of blood are emitted from injured aliens/humans, and blood is sometimes smeared on walls and on the ground. Some profanity (e.g., "bull-blam!-," "a*shole," and "bastard") can be heard in the dialogue and radio chatter.

Here's a list of 10 teen games (in no particular order) that are more "offensive" than Halo 3.

1) Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six
2) Fight Night Round 4
3} Street Fighter 4
4) Almost every hunting game out there...
5) inFamous
6) UFC 2009 Undisputed
7) DRAGONBALL: EVOLUTION
8) X-Men Origins: Wolverine
9) DYNASTY WARRIORS: Strikeforce
10) Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X. (It's a stretch, but I needed 10...)

Also, keep in mind that the ESRB only rates the campaign, not the multiplayer. What are your thoughts about ODST being rated M? Do you think it's necessary?

BTW, I just saw that MONOPOLY was rated T because of simulated gambling. Wow, just wow...


[Edited on 08.10.2009 2:23 PM PDT]

  • 08.10.2009 2:23 PM PDT

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Marine: "Dear Sarge, kicking as* in outer space, wish you were here."

Johnson: "I heard that, jackas*!"

That quote is from Halo 2. If there's anything like that in it I suppose it should be rated M.

  • 08.10.2009 2:25 PM PDT

Can't start your own party?

M rated games sell better and so do R rated movies....Its just a marketing thing. If it was rated T people would go 'oh its a T game and therefore uncool'.

  • 08.10.2009 2:25 PM PDT

If this is the state of my art, then I secede.

Posted by: Lawless17k
Posted by: UnderTheKnif3
BTW, I just saw that MONOPOLY was rated T because of simulated gambling. Wow, just wow...

Srs?
Well, Monopoly Slots was...

  • 08.10.2009 2:26 PM PDT

If this is the state of my art, then I secede.

Posted by: Loaja343
Marine: "Dear Sarge, kicking as* in outer space, wish you were here."

Johnson: "I heard that, jackas*!"

That quote is from Halo 2. If there's anything like that in it I suppose it should be rated M.
Is that sarcasm?

  • 08.10.2009 2:27 PM PDT

Hey guess what!? I play CoD more than Halo, but I'm not an annoying fanboy. I love CoD more, but I like how involved the Halo Community is...

Half of those aren't even bad, so how are they more offensive?

  • 08.10.2009 2:27 PM PDT

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Little kids who here the word "jack*ss" are likely to start saying it? I don't know, I'm not a rating expert.

  • 08.10.2009 2:28 PM PDT

If this is the state of my art, then I secede.

Posted by: Mr Bloz
Half of those aren't even bad, so how are they more offensive?
Exactly. That's the point I'm trying to make.

  • 08.10.2009 2:30 PM PDT

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Wow monoply rated T, thats unreal.

  • 08.10.2009 2:30 PM PDT

My troll sense is tingling.

Rating systems are getting -blam!- up. Mass Effect in USA is an M. In the UK it's a 12. And just recently I friend showed me a link he found showing ODST as an 18 rated game in the UK, whilst the other games are 15.

  • 08.10.2009 2:30 PM PDT

Can't start your own party?

Halo is very Star Wars'y so IDK what really earns it an M rating.

  • 08.10.2009 2:31 PM PDT

Hey guess what!? I play CoD more than Halo, but I'm not an annoying fanboy. I love CoD more, but I like how involved the Halo Community is...

Posted by: UnderTheKnif3
Posted by: Mr Bloz
Half of those aren't even bad, so how are they more offensive?
Exactly. That's the point I'm trying to make.

Yup, I didn't know Hadokens from SF4 were worse then a snipe to the head.

  • 08.10.2009 2:31 PM PDT

My troll sense is tingling.

Posted by: Loaja343
Little kids who here the word "jack*ss" are likely to start saying it? I don't know, I'm not a rating expert.

Tom & Jerry used the word jackass.

  • 08.10.2009 2:31 PM PDT

Evil, always finds a way!
Gnarl: Overlord

its goin to be 15+ in sweden so "happy me"

  • 08.10.2009 2:31 PM PDT

Posted by: UnderTheKnif3
Here's a list of 10 teen games (in no particular order) that are more "offensive" than Halo 3.

1) Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six
2) Fight Night Round 4
3} Street Fighter 4
4) Almost every hunting game out there...
5) inFamous
6) UFC 2009 Undisputed
7) DRAGONBALL: EVOLUTION
8) X-Men Origins: Wolverine
9) DYNASTY WARRIORS: Strikeforce
10) Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X. (It's a stretch, but I needed 10...)

X-Men Origins: Wolverine is rated M...

  • 08.10.2009 2:31 PM PDT
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Reach needs to be patched. It's the truth.

Posted by: UnderTheKnif3
BTW, I just saw that MONOPOLY was rated T because of simulated gambling. Wow, just wow...


lmao

  • 08.10.2009 2:32 PM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

um... both Rainbow six and Wolverine are rated M on the xbox

Halo 3 ODST fits the guidlines for a M rated game. it's not the gore that did it for halo, it was frankly the fact there is blood. blood = M these days

  • 08.10.2009 2:32 PM PDT

because the second disk is halo 3, just without the campaign

but because ODST comes with a game rated M for mature, then the whole package must be M

it's not like they'd make disk 1 rated teen and then disk 2 mature... they just cant do that

just have your parents pick it up, most do that anyway... i did for halo 1, 2, and 3 so... i don't even see the point of ratings

[Edited on 08.10.2009 2:37 PM PDT]

  • 08.10.2009 2:34 PM PDT

If this is the state of my art, then I secede.

Posted by: Stickmen13
Posted by: UnderTheKnif3
Here's a list of 10 teen games (in no particular order) that are more "offensive" than Halo 3.

1) Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six
2) Fight Night Round 4
3} Street Fighter 4
4) Almost every hunting game out there...
5) inFamous
6) UFC 2009 Undisputed
7) DRAGONBALL: EVOLUTION
8) X-Men Origins: Wolverine
9) DYNASTY WARRIORS: Strikeforce
10) Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X. (It's a stretch, but I needed 10...)

X-Men Origins: Wolverine is rated M...
Well, not according to ESRB.com... Let me check that.

EDIT: It's T for the PS2 and Wii...

  • 08.10.2009 2:34 PM PDT

If this is the state of my art, then I secede.

Posted by: dangerbyrnes
because the second disk is halo 3, just without the campaign

but because ODST comes with a game rated M for mature, then the whole package must be M

it's not like they'd make disk 1 rated teen and then disk 2 mature... they just cant do that
Disc 2 is multiplayer, and the ESRB doesn't rate multiplater.

  • 08.10.2009 2:35 PM PDT

Revielle- A small community with the goals of making a difference for our members. We hope to bring together people of far distances, and many differences, into our community for long lasting friendships and new gaming experiences.

So stop reading and join already or Get Simmonsized!

Posted by: UnderTheKnif3
Posted by: dangerbyrnes
because the second disk is halo 3, just without the campaign

but because ODST comes with a game rated M for mature, then the whole package must be M

it's not like they'd make disk 1 rated teen and then disk 2 mature... they just cant do that
Disc 2 is multiplayer, and the ESRB doesn't rate multiplater.


Right, the ESRB cannot rate Online Interaction.

  • 08.10.2009 2:38 PM PDT

Posted by: UnderTheKnif3
Posted by: dangerbyrnes
because the second disk is halo 3, just without the campaign

but because ODST comes with a game rated M for mature, then the whole package must be M

it's not like they'd make disk 1 rated teen and then disk 2 mature... they just cant do that
Disc 2 is multiplayer, and the ESRB doesn't rate multiplater.


ESRB doesn't rate "online interactions"... like some guy yelling -blam!- over the microphone

they do rate the content of the multiplayer though.

  • 08.10.2009 2:39 PM PDT

I like to derp and stuff. I have a YouTube channel~

Derp

My friend's six year old little brother plays it all the time and quotes nonstop. I mean, i agree with it being a bit of a far fetched M rating, but think about the plot. It's got a very deep, extensive universe that is meant to have a more mature audience. It's more about the story, not the content for me.

  • 08.10.2009 2:40 PM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

you know other than wolverine and rainbow six(both are mature games) i think halo is alot darker of a story than all the others you listed. ODST needs to be rated M

  • 08.10.2009 2:41 PM PDT

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