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Subject: New Assault Rifle idea

HAIL HALO!

The AR in Halo 3, in my opinion, is too weak to be a good starting weapon, we need something that can at least compete with the BR and some power weapons. The new AR would have a little less damange than the one in Halo 3, and would transform depending on the distance of the enemy you targeted.
Example. It would increase in rate of fire and decrease in accuracy the closer the target is to you, while if the target in your crosshair is farther away the rifle will decrease in rate of fire and increase in accuracy. This would make the rifle usable at all ranges, but only using grenades and other equipment would they be able to overpower a BR at midrange, a sniper at long range, ect. And if done right, the new AR could have some cool animations for when you target a new player. Thoughts?

[Edited on 08.11.2009 2:16 AM PDT]

  • 08.11.2009 2:13 AM PDT

Posted by: War Pig P16
The AR in Halo 3, in my opinion, is too weak to be a good starting weapon, we need something that can at least compete with the BR and some power weapons. The new AR would have a little less damange than the one in Halo 3, and would transform depending on the distance of the enemy you targeted.
Example. It would increase in rate of fire and decrease in accuracy the closer the target is to you, while if the target in your crosshair is farther away the rifle will decrease in rate of fire and increase in accuracy. This would make the rifle usable at all ranges, but only using grenades and other equipment would they be able to overpower a BR at midrange, a sniper at long range, ect. And if done right, the new AR could have some cool animations for when you target a new player. Thoughts?



Are you nuts?! The Assault rifle is over powered, it shouldn't be taken out, just lowered in damage, but they wont because little spartan women wearing skirts will -blam!- about it, and of course Bungie must give everything to the fans and not go with whats really needed.

  • 08.11.2009 3:34 AM PDT

simple they jus put the H1 ar in or prototype ar

  • 08.11.2009 7:36 AM PDT

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- Uranus.
[Insert troll face here]

we need the Halo CE AR

  • 08.11.2009 7:45 AM PDT

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Posted by: Tonoottu
The AR is over powered already
The AR is overpowered? You know that the BR kills with less bullets, is more accurate, has more range and has a larger clip, right? If the AR is overpowered what is the BR?

  • 08.11.2009 8:25 AM PDT
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Reach should have the halo ce ma5b assault rifle, or the ma5k from the books.

  • 08.11.2009 8:37 AM PDT
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Posted by: turtle3242008
we need the Halo CE AR


Exactly the Halo 3 AR is certailey good but to make an even AR they should go back to Halo CE's its a lot more powerful but a lot less acurate.

  • 08.11.2009 9:00 AM PDT
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Increase the range, pull the spread in lightly, decrease the clip but slightly increase the damage.

Doing so will make it lethal but still very balanced.

  • 08.11.2009 9:31 AM PDT
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I actually think the AR is fine the way it is.

  • 08.11.2009 9:34 AM PDT

Just enjoy the damn game!
Who cares about BR vs AR

Posted by: scotsoe
I actually think the AR is fine the way it is.

  • 08.11.2009 9:58 AM PDT
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How about we at least bring back the old AR firing sounds? It sounds like popcorn now, and in Halo CE it sounded like you were firing tigers with swords.

  • 08.11.2009 10:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: Tonoottu
The AR is over powered already
The AR is overpowered? You know that the BR kills with less bullets, is more accurate, has more range and has a larger clip, right? If the AR is overpowered what is the BR?

Something out of this world.

  • 08.11.2009 10:07 AM PDT
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Make the AR very accurate with single shots and accurate with burst fire. Maybe even a slight damage decrease after this.

  • 08.11.2009 10:09 AM PDT

BS, that is assuming every bullet from your AR hits your target, which almost NEVER happens because of the spread. Normally it takes about a whole clip or two to kill a person because it is so bad.

With a BR you can get a 5 shot in about 2-3 seconds. Which is faster than any gun besides the rocket, sniper, and needler.
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Posted by: Tonoottu
The AR is over powered already
The AR is overpowered? You know that the BR kills with less bullets, is more accurate, has more range and has a larger clip, right? If the AR is overpowered what is the BR?

Actually the AR is more powerful, you have to have a perfect BR to kill with 4 shot (4x3=12 bullets) and most of the time it takes 5-6 (15 - 18 bullets shot) this time is around let's say 2-3 seconds
1 second AR spray and you're already dead.

  • 08.11.2009 10:10 AM PDT

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Posted by: mubox47
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Posted by: Tonoottu
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Posted by: Tonoottu
The AR is over powered already
The AR is overpowered? You know that the BR kills with less bullets, is more accurate, has more range and has a larger clip, right? If the AR is overpowered what is the BR?

Actually the AR is more powerful, you have to have a perfect BR to kill with 4 shot (4x3=12 bullets) and most of the time it takes 5-6 (15 - 18 bullets shot) this time is around let's say 2-3 seconds
1 second AR spray and you're already dead.
The AR is less powerful. It kills in 16 bullets, a BR kills in twelve. And dont even try to say "It's harder to hit with a BR!" The BR's bullet spread is nothing compared to the AR's, or any other weapon's for that matter. The AR's only advantage is a faster rate of fire, which only helps at very close range. If someone is at the edge of your radar and you have an AR, it takes over half the clip before the AR actually lands 16 shots and kills.

About the "You need a perfect BR to get a 4 shot." That is not as hard as people think. Yes, landing four head shots is pretty hard at a distance, but you actually only need three body shots and one head shot, which isnt that hard. Even if you cant land the four shots, the BR's clip size allows for mistakes. You can miss two shots on both kills and still get two kills before reloading.

  • 08.11.2009 10:29 AM PDT

Posted by: Double Entendre
How about we at least bring back the old AR firing sounds? It sounds like popcorn now, and in Halo CE it sounded like you were firing tigers with swords.


Hell yeah, Tigers with swords!

  • 08.11.2009 10:29 AM PDT

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You know the ARs range accuracy is directly related to how you pull the trigger right?
The problem is that it is not apparent because there is no feedback from the HUD.
Pulsing could do more, it was super effective in the Beta, but now its negligibly better than just holding the trigger down.

  • 08.11.2009 10:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: Tonoottu
The AR is over powered already
The AR is overpowered? You know that the BR kills with less bullets, is more accurate, has more range and has a larger clip, right? If the AR is overpowered what is the BR?

Actually the AR is more powerful, you have to have a perfect BR to kill with 4 shot (4x3=12 bullets) and most of the time it takes 5-6 (15 - 18 bullets shot) this time is around let's say 2-3 seconds
1 second AR spray and you're already dead.
The AR is less powerful. It kills in 16 bullets, a BR kills in twelve. And dont even try to say "It's harder to hit with a BR!" The BR's bullet spread is nothing compared to the AR's, or any other weapon's for that matter. The AR's only advantage is a faster rate of fire, which only helps at very close range. If someone is at the edge of your radar and you have an AR, it takes over half the clip before the AR actually lands 16 shots and kills.

About the "You need a perfect BR to get a 4 shot." That is not as hard as people think. Yes, landing four head shots is pretty hard at a distance, but you actually only need three body shots and one head shot, which isnt that hard. Even if you cant land the four shots, the BR's clip size allows for mistakes. You can miss two shots on both kills and still get two kills before reloading.

Also the AR is only use one way effectively and thats with the meelee if we had the Halo CE meelee with a slight lunge (like one spartan stride approximitly 1.5m) and had the Halo CE momentum meelee damage where it was like three meelees to kill two if you mangage a jump twice and meelee. then we could decease the AR cone and make it more of a shooting oriented weapon instead of this current meelee oriented weapon

  • 08.11.2009 10:54 AM PDT

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Posted by: ramenloverninja
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Posted by: Tonoottu
Posted by: The EAKLE
Posted by: Tonoottu
The AR is over powered already
The AR is overpowered? You know that the BR kills with less bullets, is more accurate, has more range and has a larger clip, right? If the AR is overpowered what is the BR?

Actually the AR is more powerful, you have to have a perfect BR to kill with 4 shot (4x3=12 bullets) and most of the time it takes 5-6 (15 - 18 bullets shot) this time is around let's say 2-3 seconds
1 second AR spray and you're already dead.
The AR is less powerful. It kills in 16 bullets, a BR kills in twelve. And dont even try to say "It's harder to hit with a BR!" The BR's bullet spread is nothing compared to the AR's, or any other weapon's for that matter. The AR's only advantage is a faster rate of fire, which only helps at very close range. If someone is at the edge of your radar and you have an AR, it takes over half the clip before the AR actually lands 16 shots and kills.

About the "You need a perfect BR to get a 4 shot." That is not as hard as people think. Yes, landing four head shots is pretty hard at a distance, but you actually only need three body shots and one head shot, which isnt that hard. Even if you cant land the four shots, the BR's clip size allows for mistakes. You can miss two shots on both kills and still get two kills before reloading.

Also the AR is only use one way effectively and thats with the meelee if we had the Halo CE meelee with a slight lunge (like one spartan stride approximitly 1.5m) and had the Halo CE momentum meelee damage where it was like three meelees to kill two if you mangage a jump twice and meelee. then we could decease the AR cone and make it more of a shooting oriented weapon instead of this current meelee oriented weapon

Try to keep in mind that when more than one person is lighting you up with the AR, you are pretty dead within 2 seconds.

  • 08.11.2009 11:04 AM PDT

Posted by: The EAKLE
Posted by: Tonoottu
The AR is over powered already
The AR is overpowered? You know that the BR kills with less bullets, is more accurate, has more range and has a larger clip, right? If the AR is overpowered what is the BR?


Overpowered. Both are powerful in their own way.

  • 08.11.2009 11:09 AM PDT

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Posted by: Halaxis
Posted by: The EAKLE
Posted by: Tonoottu
The AR is over powered already
The AR is overpowered? You know that the BR kills with less bullets, is more accurate, has more range and has a larger clip, right? If the AR is overpowered what is the BR?


Overpowered. Both are powerful in their own way.

Neither weapon is overpowered.
The AR is way too focused on close range. And the BR is very flexible. I see no problem with that.
Yet kids want to bring back the Halo CE pistol which could take down an opponent within 1.5 seconds at any range.

  • 08.11.2009 11:11 AM PDT

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Halo CE AR = Perfect.

  • 08.11.2009 11:14 AM PDT

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