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Subject: A Return to the Old Ways or More of the Same?
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The question becomes how will Bungie's farewell be accomplished...

Will we see a return to the old-school type of shooter Halo once was. Halo 3, while being the premier shooter of its era, has become a slowed-out version of what it once was. Also, the game has turned in to a one-weapon game. Gone are the ways of a Sci-Fi shooter. Sure, there are remnants of what once was but it just was never the same.

Anyone remember shooters like Quake where multiple weapons had the ability to hold a map and it wasn't a one weapon game? That is just one example. Even take a look at Halo 2, where the game is not focused on one weapon per-say.

Time will tell.

  • 08.11.2009 12:08 PM PDT
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Halo CE was more fun than Halo 3.

  • 08.11.2009 12:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: Striped Dragon
Halo CE was more fun than Halo 3.
I agree.

  • 08.11.2009 12:15 PM PDT
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I think if Bungie has listened to all the cries from the Halo 3 players of changes then we are headed in the wrong direction. Bungie knows what it needs to do to make a classic Halo game. Stay away from many of the changes they did to Halo 3 is one example.

  • 08.11.2009 12:26 PM PDT
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i liked the clan system in h2 and i would like a dedicated friend list just for it so my friend list isnt completely full and i have to remove some one. and i know who has the game

  • 08.11.2009 12:37 PM PDT
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Does anyone feel like Halo 3 has more similarities to CoD MW and CoD WAW than it does Halo 2? Gone are the days of the sci-fi shooter Halo 2 was. Halo 3 is simply focused on one weapon, strafing back and forth while doing a little dance.

We want a sci-fi shooter not a Modern Warfare of Halo.

  • 08.11.2009 1:02 PM PDT
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I like how you keep you repeated yourself there.

Gone are the days of the sci-fi shooter Halo 2

Edit: It's not as bad as my grammar, though.


[Edited on 08.11.2009 1:16 PM PDT]

  • 08.11.2009 1:08 PM PDT

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How about the series evolves instead of going back to "the old days". I wouldn't mind no duel wielding, but I think overall, the game should evolve in some way instead of being just like an older game.

  • 08.11.2009 1:20 PM PDT

I think Halo CE, Halo 2, and Halo 3 were all good. Each has Ups and Downs, each one bringing something new to the battle. If Bungie makes a Halo Universe themed game that is fun to play thats good. Quite honestly though I would like to see a Halo 3 type game with inprovements in certain areas, although not to make it look like Halo CE.

  • 08.11.2009 1:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: LordKastle
I think if Bungie has listened to all the cries from the Halo 3 players of changes then we are headed in the wrong direction. Bungie knows what it needs to do to make a classic Halo game. Stay away from many of the changes they did to Halo 3 is one example.

Okay, so no Forge, custom games, and theater?

  • 08.11.2009 1:49 PM PDT

I am really glad that you guys do not make games, and I am really really glad you do not make halo.

The fact that the only options you think there are are more like halo 1 or more like halo 3 shows that you have absolutely no creativity whatsoever.

Halo: Reach, most likely, will be quite a bit different from both.

  • 08.11.2009 1:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: LordKastle
I think if Bungie has listened to all the cries from the Halo 3 players of changes then we are headed in the wrong direction. Bungie knows what it needs to do to make a classic Halo game. Stay away from many of the changes they did to Halo 3 is one example.
LOL, that is why Halo 3 was the most popular of all 3 games.

  • 08.11.2009 1:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: Striped Dragon
Halo CE was more fun than Halo 3.
I agree.

  • 08.11.2009 1:54 PM PDT

MW is much more than that.

Posted by: LordKastle
Does anyone feel like Halo 3 has more similarities to CoD MW and CoD WAW than it does Halo 2? Gone are the days of the sci-fi shooter Halo 2 was. Halo 3 is simply focused on one weapon, strafing back and forth while doing a little dance.

We want a sci-fi shooter not a Modern Warfare of Halo.

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I'd like it to be new. Not like Halo 1, or 3. A new style of Halo gameplay. Trying to be like a previous game just fails, as they are totally different generations of games.

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Or how about something completely new?

I am not saying to repeat the same game-play as the old games. I am simply saying bring back the aura that the older games had. Halo 3 may Bungie's pinnacle but there is definitely something missing. I have played Halo 3 since the day it came out and Halo 2 for years (just as an example, alongside CE). There is no doubt that the game-play mechanisms in Halo 3 take away from the sci-fi aspect.

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Posted by: Striped Dragon
Halo CE was more fun than Halo 3.

Thats no reason to go back and use "old blocks if you will to make a new wall" if you will. Why would we do that when we can do ever better and more complex and interesting stuff with better tools than 7 or 8 years ago?

Doesen't make sense to me.

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Posted by: LordKastle
I think if Bungie has listened to all the cries from the Halo 3 players of changes then we are headed in the wrong direction. Bungie knows what it needs to do to make a classic Halo game. Stay away from many of the changes they did to Halo 3 is one example.

Okay, so no Forge, custom games, and theater?
I think he's referring to gameplay changes.

  • 08.11.2009 3:09 PM PDT

1. Halo 1 was a four weapon game. Shotgun, Sniper, Rocket Launcher, and Pistol. All the other weapons were useless, but they were still good in their own way.

2. Halo 2 was a four weapon game post patch. Sniper, Rocket Launcher, Sword and Battle Rifle.

3. Halo 3 is probably the most well balanced version. SMG pwns AR at close range, AR beats out BR at close to close mid-range, BR beats out everything at medium far- range. Sniper pwns everything at far range. Shotguns are more useful than in Halo 2, but the sword actually loses out to the shotgun. Which doesn't make sense when the weapon is placed in center stage as a power weapon. Rocket Launcher is weak, but still beats everything. The only problem is that Halo 3's gameplay is significantly slower, and Bungie still uses huge open sight lines on maps with a lack of cover in between. So people are wasting an entire clip trying to take out a sniper who has an advantage out in the open, and the only options are to ping the sniper, and go hide, or rush forward, which creates a predictable pattern for the sniper to no scope.

Unfortunately, all the weapons that were moderately decent in some way in Halo 1 become duel wielding only.

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  • 08.11.2009 6:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Honourable Elite
I'd like it to be new. Not like Halo 1, or 3. A new style of Halo gameplay. Trying to be like a previous game just fails, as they are totally different generations of games.


The gameplay formula is fine, and if you're hinting at class-type gameplay I'm going to hurt you.

  • 08.11.2009 6:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: Honourable Elite
I'd like it to be new. Not like Halo 1, or 3. A new style of Halo gameplay. Trying to be like a previous game just fails, as they are totally different generations of games.


The gameplay formula is fine, and if you're hinting at class-type gameplay I'm going to hurt you.


There is nothing wrong with a class option as long as they have an old school option where you can set character model limits as well.

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  • 08.11.2009 6:16 PM PDT

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i jsut hope they bring back the scoped pistol man....

  • 08.11.2009 6:16 PM PDT
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I think if Bungie has listened to all the cries from the Halo 3 players of changes then we are headed in the wrong direction. Bungie knows what it needs to do to make a classic Halo game. Stay away from many of the changes they did to Halo 3 is one example.
LOL, that is why Halo 3 was the most popular of all 3 games.
Sais who? from all the posts i've ben reading l8ly halo:CE was favored way more than halo 2 or halo 3 (there technically wasn't ever a a halo 1 just Halo: CE)

  • 08.11.2009 6:23 PM PDT

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I don't consider Halo 2 and 3 to be "Halo" in terms of feel/gameplay. I want Halo REACH to be more like Halo originally was. In Halo 1. Fast paced, versatile weapons, great emphasis on skill, more balanced weapons, etc.

If Bungie would be going against that and making the game more like Halo 2/3, I would rather they not butcher the Halo gameplay formula anymore and just scrap it and move on to a large scale class based game.

  • 08.11.2009 6:24 PM PDT

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i think the multiplayer in halo 3 is way funner then CE!! but the campiagn in CE is better.

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