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Subject: ODST is "overpriced"

"Before you insult someone, try walking a mile in their shoes. This way, when you insult them, you are a mile away and have their shoes."

yeah, really?

In the past 10 minutes of browsing along the ODST forums, I found 12 topics about that ODST is supposedly "overpriced." Seriously, it's a full campaign, with an option to play firefight, all halo 3 map packs with 3 new ones, and mm with more special beta offers, etc. For me, that's worth 60dollars/40 euros. For those of you who don't see that as enough proof, let me show you some examples:

Gears of War 2, has been out for almost a year now, it had a small 7 level campaign, with horde, and mm. It was 67 euros, and still is 55 euros here. ODST has more, and is only 40 euros when it comes out.

COD4 came with a 12 level campaign and mm. It was 70 euros, and still is 45 euros. It's less featured, and is still more than ODST will be when it comes out.

Also, for those of you who still say it's too expensive, get a job. You have simple jobs like newspaper errands that can easily rack you 180 euros/240 dollars in a week, or sometimes in a day.

/end rant

  • 08.12.2009 2:28 AM PDT

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tottaly agree dude.

  • 08.12.2009 3:03 AM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

You're mom is overpriced!

Oh sorry, yeah people think ODST is still an expansion pack, but since they dont stay tuned they probably dont know its a full game now, as good (or even better) then Halo 3.

  • 08.12.2009 3:04 AM PDT
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agreed to the max

  • 08.12.2009 3:08 AM PDT

1.Arkham Asylum, 2.Mass Effect, 3.Halo CE, 4.Mass Effect 2, 5.Halo 2, 6.Splinter Cell Double Agent, 7.Gears of War 2, 8.Medievil, 9.Oblivion, 10.Crash Team Racing

I can't say anything is worth anything without trying it. On paper Halo3 was the most awesome game ever, but in the end it was a dissapointment for $50

Oblivion is the only game I have worth $60. I doubt ODST will come close to that.

Of course, that has nothing to do with the "it's a full game now" argument. Just that most games aren't worth $60.

  • 08.12.2009 3:16 AM PDT

"Before you insult someone, try walking a mile in their shoes. This way, when you insult them, you are a mile away and have their shoes."

Posted by: kalle90
I can't say anything is worth anything without trying it. On paper Halo3 was the most awesome game ever, but in the end it was a dissapointment for $50

Oblivion is the only game I have worth $60. I doubt ODST will come close to that.

Of course, that has nothing to do with the "it's a full game now" argument. Just that most games aren't worth $60.


True, but don't forget that things here in europe are more expensive, but I never ever hear anyone complain here. I do, however, find that games that I find fun worth the money. And many games have had that rating from me.

  • 08.12.2009 4:04 AM PDT

Posted by: I DoMeAgE I
I've already read all of the halo books today you stupid nerd. Plus Halo:Fall of reach twice.

Let them sit at their computers are argue about it. If they don't wanna buy it then who cares.

  • 08.12.2009 4:06 AM PDT

Posted by: kalle90
I can't say anything is worth anything without trying it. On paper Halo3 was the most awesome game ever, but in the end it was a dissapointment for $50

Oblivion is the only game I have worth $60. I doubt ODST will come close to that.

Of course, that has nothing to do with the "it's a full game now" argument. Just that most games aren't worth $60.


It depends on what you mean by value? How many hours have you spent playing Halo 3 to get your 1000 plus games? How many times did you go through the campaign? Add up all these hours and then divide that figure by $60 and tell me if it was worth your time. I live in the UK and to go to a football match (soccer for all you Americans) it costs £18 or roughly $27 and that only lasts a couple of hours. I think video games like Halo 3 are incredibly good value.

Just my opinion

  • 08.12.2009 4:10 AM PDT
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really if you buy ODST you cant seroiusly play unlimited hours of campaign and firefight. plus your also getting another disc that has the new mythic maps. and an even sweeter bonus you get the Reach beta. hmm... i guess it isn't worth $60....

  • 08.12.2009 4:17 AM PDT

Evil, always finds a way!
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it's 60 euros

HA!

  • 08.12.2009 4:33 AM PDT

"Before you insult someone, try walking a mile in their shoes. This way, when you insult them, you are a mile away and have their shoes."

nope. 40 euros=65 dollars. I pre-ordered it at my store for 35 euros, and then I must pay 5 more when I get it.

  • 08.12.2009 4:44 AM PDT

Yeah people need to get a job and get over it. The collectors edition is $167 rrp in stupid nz so there.

  • 08.12.2009 4:55 AM PDT
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im getting it for 44 euros :)

where do you live?

oh wait netherlands?

[Edited on 08.12.2009 5:12 AM PDT]

  • 08.12.2009 5:11 AM PDT

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It's true, and im tired of hereing how "overly priced" people think it is. I wish people would stop making these kinds of threads.

  • 08.12.2009 5:16 AM PDT

1.Arkham Asylum, 2.Mass Effect, 3.Halo CE, 4.Mass Effect 2, 5.Halo 2, 6.Splinter Cell Double Agent, 7.Gears of War 2, 8.Medievil, 9.Oblivion, 10.Crash Team Racing

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Posted by: kalle90
I can't say anything is worth anything without trying it. On paper Halo3 was the most awesome game ever, but in the end it was a dissapointment for $50

Oblivion is the only game I have worth $60. I doubt ODST will come close to that.

Of course, that has nothing to do with the "it's a full game now" argument. Just that most games aren't worth $60.


It depends on what you mean by value? How many hours have you spent playing Halo 3 to get your 1000 plus games? How many times did you go through the campaign? Add up all these hours and then divide that figure by $60 and tell me if it was worth your time. I live in the UK and to go to a football match (soccer for all you Americans) it costs £18 or roughly $27 and that only lasts a couple of hours. I think video games like Halo 3 are incredibly good value.

Just my opinion


Well that 1000 games is really wrong. Officially my game says I've played a little over 300 online matches. A lot of those rest are just map and gametype tests. Campaign, well played it about 10 times. Overall that makes some 100-200 hours of game. Oblivion is over twice that.

Then again, I never claimed games are the only overpriced thing. I carefully choose which $5-10 movies or icehockey matches I want to see.

Oblivion GOTY is the only game I don't regret paying $70 at all. That's just how I feel.

  • 08.12.2009 6:00 AM PDT

Halo=The best game series EVER!
Bungie=Bungie's so awesome I have no words
Finished Halo: Reach campaign legendary solo!

i agree its so stupid about peoples rants, they just shouldnt buy the game!! anyway in england at game it is £35!

  • 08.12.2009 6:12 AM PDT
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Trolls are insecure about their own pathetic lives that they act cool behind a keyboard.
Go back to being a failure kid.

People only say it is overpriced because Bungie Said it would be cheaper.

Microsoft knows they'll pay the price...

  • 08.12.2009 6:15 AM PDT

"Before you insult someone, try walking a mile in their shoes. This way, when you insult them, you are a mile away and have their shoes."

Posted by: GoW_117
im getting it for 44 euros :)

where do you live?

oh wait netherlands?


I'm originally from NL, but because of my father's job im in spain.

  • 08.12.2009 6:19 AM PDT

Real men use magnums.

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Posted by: kalle90
I can't say anything is worth anything without trying it. On paper Halo3 was the most awesome game ever, but in the end it was a dissapointment for $50

Oblivion is the only game I have worth $60. I doubt ODST will come close to that.

Of course, that has nothing to do with the "it's a full game now" argument. Just that most games aren't worth $60.


It depends on what you mean by value? How many hours have you spent playing Halo 3 to get your 1000 plus games? How many times did you go through the campaign? Add up all these hours and then divide that figure by $60 and tell me if it was worth your time. I live in the UK and to go to a football match (soccer for all you Americans) it costs £18 or roughly $27 and that only lasts a couple of hours. I think video games like Halo 3 are incredibly good value.

Just my opinion


agreed. I played halo 3 for like a year and a half before I even slowed down on it. That includes campaign occasionally. Honestly even though halo 3 is getting kind of old now, it was pretty much the best game in the world based on how much fun I had with it for how long.

  • 08.12.2009 7:57 AM PDT
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Posted by: kalle90
Well that 1000 games is really wrong. Officially my game says I've played a little over 300 online matches. A lot of those rest are just map and gametype tests. Campaign, well played it about 10 times. Overall that makes some 100-200 hours of game. Oblivion is over twice that.

Then again, I never claimed games are the only overpriced thing. I carefully choose which $5-10 movies or icehockey matches I want to see.

Oblivion GOTY is the only game I don't regret paying $70 at all. That's just how I feel.

It's a really tough to have a modern / social life when $0.60 an hour is too expensive. Pretty much every kind of entertainment but free TV, the library, public events, and some videogames are closed off to a person at that rate. And I don't even want to think about the food budget =o

Anyways, the value for Halo 3 per hour is extremely competative compared to other entertainment costs if you like the multiplayer. Even if it's not enough value on your personal scale, you can't accurately go around saying it's a rip off to the average consumer.

[Edited on 08.12.2009 8:36 AM PDT]

  • 08.12.2009 8:35 AM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

just an FYI it isn't a 5 hour campaign any more. as they said 1 hour per mission and about half an hour between each mission to reach the different way points(Joe Staten said this in the play through of the first mission, it's why he used that teleport 'cheat')

**also i did not include the time it would take to get the audio logs etc as this is extra content not critical to the story. this is a bare minimum calculation**

Now lets do some fairly simple math.

-There are 6 missions if the leaked achievements are to be believed.
-That means 6 one hour missions.
-6 x 1 = 6
-That means there is 6 hours in missions alone. Lets store that number away in our head and -move to the next part of our game length calculations.


-if there are 6 missions that means you need to travel to all 6, Correct? that means there are 6 times you need to travel to a new location, (travel to point one, travel to point 2, travel to point 3, travel, to point 4, travel to point 5, and travel to point 6. That's Six travel times)
-now we were told in the mission walk through by Jo Staten that it's about half an hour to walk to a target point when he used his teleport cheat.
-6Travel times of half an hour each
-6 x 0.5 = 3
-this means that that there is about 3 hours of just running to your objectives alone.
-now to move to the final part of our calculations here


-taking that first number we got from the beginning of ODST's development and the leaked achievements and adding them to the travel time result we get:
-6 hours of missions plus the 3 hours of travel time
-6 + 3 = 9
-This means there is about 9 hours of campaign.

Also note this calculation does not include the "final mission" Bungie has alluded to as it has not been directly confirmed to my knowledge.


This number of 9 hours of campaign is the equivalent of an average FULL game these days.
this with alone by game marketing standards warrants a $60 price tag.

The things people argue that you need for a full price game, often are not included in a campaign oriented game.

A full price title does not need:
-Match Making
-Multiplayer of any form(such as co-op/ split screen)
-a second game mode
Please note that with these features included in a large title often increases the price of the game by $10

A full game must include
-A single player campaign totalling a minimum of 6 hour average playtime OR a fully Multiplayer game(unknown standard)
-1000GS (Xbox 360)


Now ODST fits the Retail Requirements of a full game:
-9+hour campaign(larger than 6 hours)
-1000 independent GS(not related to Halo 3 GS in any way there is 750 GS also available on the Halo 3 multiplayer)
This here in the marketing world Labels ODST as a Full Retail game and is being Priced at $60 like any other full retail game.


As well ODST has:
-A second game mode
-Multiplayer Co-op
Please note that with these features included in a large title often increases the price of the game by $10. In ODST it does not.


So in the end is ODST worth $60?
-By marketing standards YES
-By your standards? Read the above and answer your self reasonably and truthfully. Then ask if it is just your disappointment in it now fitting the above requirements and hence being more expensive than you planned, or are you truly being ripped off? again answer yourself tuthfully.

  • 08.12.2009 8:38 AM PDT

a game is a game and games are pricey. If you dont want ODST cuz you cant aford it then dont buy No one cares about the price most games are 60 dollars any way Idk way everyone is makeing a big deal about it

  • 08.12.2009 8:42 AM PDT

35 pounds FTW! i'm preordering after my holiday ! yay! :)

  • 08.12.2009 8:47 AM PDT

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Microsoft made the price for ODST. Overall, Halo 3:ODST by itself with no addons, its not really worth 60$ but any game thats coming out in this markect is going to get charged 60$. We should feel gracious that we get addons like the Halo 3: Mythic Disc and the Halo: Reach Beta Invitation while ii doesn't add on to the original cost.

  • 08.12.2009 8:49 AM PDT