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Subject: Game mode Idea - Air battle

A wise man once said, "Treat every stressful situation like a dog. If you can't eat it or hump it, piss on it and walk away."

==================================Air Battle====================================
I was thinking about something new to the halo series, perhaps air to air combat?
I haven't quite read up on everything that is going into Halo: Reach, but this would be my idea.

-There would be 1 map specifically for this.
This map would be a huge open field, about 10 times the size of avalanche and surrounded by mountains. Very high up, inside the mountains, would be a massive air force base with loads of Air vehicles. To avoid spawn killing, the bases would also have a one-way shield door that can only be used to exit the bases. The vehicle's weapons will not function inside the bases. Here are the vehicles:

-Pelican
-2 in each base.
-4 minute respawns
-Seats 11 people. 10 in the crew seating bay and 1 pilot.
-Weapons: Heavy frontal machine gun (No recharge) (RT), Missile barrage (Shoots 20 missiles and then waits 10 seconds to recharge.) (LT). Both are pilot-controlled.
-Health: 10 spartan laser shots worth of health.

-Fighter jets
-6 in each base.
-3 minute respawns.
-Seats 1 pilot.
-Weapons: Machine gun (No recharge) (RT), Twin missiles (3 second delay between shots.) (LT).
-Health: 1 spartan laser shot kills.

Longsword Fighter
-1 in each base.
-5 minute respawns.
-Seats: A -blam!-load. 1 pilot, 2 co pilots. The ship has two small levels that are have no seats, but people can still walk around in it while it's flying.
-Weapons: Missile barrage (No recharge) (RT), Nuke missiles (Instant kill, 25 second delay between shots) (LT)
-Health: 20 spartan laser shots worth of health.

Hornet:
-8 in each base.
-2 Minute respawns.
-Slightly faster than Halo 3 hornets.
-Everything else is the same as Halo 3's hornets.

UPDATE: I am adding covenant vehicles to this.

Banshee
-Everything is the same as Halo 3 except for slightly boosted speed.
-8 in each base.
-2 minute respawns

Seraph Fighter (Picture)
-1 in each base.
-5 minute respawns
The rest is unknown to me :(
Health: 20 spartan laser shots worth I guess...

Vampire (Picture)
-6 in each base
-3 minute respawns
-Seats 1 driver.
-Weapons: Giant twin needlers (no recharge) (RT) Fuel rod cannon (3 second wait between shots) (B)
-Speed boost (LT)
-Health: 1 spartan laser shot worth of health.

Phantom
-2 in each base
-4 minute respawns
-Seats 11, 1 pilot, 8 in transport bay, 2 on the side turrets.
-Weapons: 3 Heavy plasma turrets on the bottom. (No recharge, RT and controlled by pilot.)
-Speed boost (LT)
-Health: 10 spartan laser shots worth.

Since I am adding covenant vehicles into this, the game mode will have the vehicle sets separated due to the fact that if one base had UNSC vehicles, and the other had covenant, it wouldn't be quite fair for the covenant. (GO UNSC!!!) So, either both bases are UNSC, or both are covenant

Q: Why did I use spartan laser shots for health?
A: Because they are the easiest to round off to.



Gametypes:

-In some gametypes, there will be a * that means that the base's shield doors are disabled. This * also means that vehicles will be allowed to shoot inside bases.

CTF (Multi Flag) Flags are in the back of the hangars. *
Team slayer - Straight up killing.
Assault: (Multi Bomb) Bomb spawn and plant points are in the back of each hangar. *
VIP (Default VIP) The teams defend their VIP while attacking the opponent's *
NOTE: To prevent VIP spawn killing, new VIP's will not be chosen on spawn, people will randomly be selected and become VIP during their current "life".


I know that Halo: Reach takes place in space somewhat, so if it doesn't take place on planets, it could possibly take place in space with frigates as bases.

If you think there are places where I can improve, please tell me so.

Some of you might get where I'm going with this. I came up with this from a map for Halo Custom Edition called "Hugeass".

If anyone wants to see what I mean, the .map file is below for download.
Note: I will not show you how to view the map. If you want to find out how to get the map to appear in custom edition, look it up on youtube. You must also have Halo PC in order to get custom edition to work.




Hugeass (I didn't make this map.)

Hugeass overview





Edit: Thanks to scorch for pointing this out about the one-way shield door.
Maybe there should be no time limit to remove the point of camping.


[Edited on 08.13.2009 4:04 AM PDT]

  • 08.12.2009 6:27 PM PDT
Subject: Game mode Idea - Dogfight

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  • 08.12.2009 6:28 PM PDT

A wise man once said, "Treat every stressful situation like a dog. If you can't eat it or hump it, piss on it and walk away."

Posted by: sgtpickle777
Play Battlefield recently?

Yes, thats where I rooted the idea from, somewhat anyway.

  • 08.12.2009 6:30 PM PDT

I like the idea, incorporating Hugeass into reach. (Yes, I have custom edition and have played hugeass lol...) That would be a blast! Imagine the kind of fun that would be! It could use a better name other than "dogfight" though.

[Edited on 08.12.2009 6:49 PM PDT]

  • 08.12.2009 6:46 PM PDT
Subject: Game mode Idea - Air battle

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wow no thank u i do not want halo 2 be turned into battlefield ok no thank u ok halo is 117% unique (lol im slick) in the videogames lists. it is only game with no classes. only game with guns that r realistic. and alien at the same time. it has best graphix. best game EVER.

ok so as u can see battlefield is stupid and halo is the best. NOTHING FROM BF SHOLD BE in HALO. ok thanks. as u are probably wanting for halo to also have -blam!- zombies, horde, iron sights, strong gernades, and also jumps. we are a sparten

we dont need 2 jump. oh wait, i forgot u can jump in halo. i say nvm about that i want jumping in bcuz it is a halo exclusive and it is so unique and cool.

NO DOGFIGHT

*Ahem*
Yes, my good sir. I would like something like Dogfight mode where everyone gets Banshees and Hornets.

[Edited on 08.12.2009 6:57 PM PDT]

  • 08.12.2009 6:49 PM PDT
Subject: Game mode Idea - Dogfight

A wise man once said, "Treat every stressful situation like a dog. If you can't eat it or hump it, piss on it and walk away."

Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
wow no thank u i do not want halo 2 be turned into battlefield ok no thank u ok halo is 117% unique (lol im slick) in the videogames lists. it is only game with no classes. only game with guns that r realistic. and alien at the same time. it has best graphix. best game EVER.

ok so as u can see battlefield is stupid and halo is the best. NOTHING FROM BF SHOLD BE in HALO. ok thanks.


This is 99% halo!!! The only thing that i used from battle field was the air superiority mode!
It's all halo but just fighting in the sky. Did the title "dogfight" mislead you?

Edit: i changed it from dogfight.

[Edited on 08.12.2009 6:56 PM PDT]

  • 08.12.2009 6:54 PM PDT
Subject: Game mode Idea - Air battle

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Interesting idea but I'm not so sure about the one way shield door, once one team took the lead it sounds like it would be easy for them to just camp at their spawn and wait for the game to end

  • 08.12.2009 6:57 PM PDT
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idk mabye

  • 08.12.2009 8:16 PM PDT
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Sir I do believe you are an idiot, of epic proportions. Not only does your comment not make sense, but you clearly are very ignorant, and your obviously not a fan of innovation. Just like 1/4 of bungie.net.

1.I am sure as hell that Halo 3 does not have the best graphic's.

2.''we dont need 2 jump. oh wait, i forgot u can jump in halo. i say nvm about that i want jumping in bcuz it is a halo exclusive and it is so unique and cool.'' Please retype this in English''

3.You start of saying you don't want something like this, and then end of saying you do. You sir have no brain, and deserve to be slapped with a sandal from the countless girls you soon will not pleasure. Feel free to swear back at me.

  • 08.12.2009 8:29 PM PDT

Reading other posts about this I'd deny Air Battles in Halo completely, but I own Halo PC and I've played Hugeass before. And the funny thing is that it works... I was thinking about that map when I first started reading (10x larger than avalanche gave it away :b.) I think it should be a bit smaller than Hugeass though, as the problem was that if you fell out of your jet and it respawned before you got back to it you'd be in for a nice walk. I like it though :)

  • 08.12.2009 8:31 PM PDT

And what happened to the covenant vehicles in those bases?

Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
wow no thank u i do not want halo 2 be turned into battlefield ok no thank u ok halo is 117% unique (lol im slick) in the videogames lists. it is only game with no classes. only game with guns that r realistic. and alien at the same time. it has best graphix. best game EVER.

ok so as u can see battlefield is stupid and halo is the best. NOTHING FROM BF SHOLD BE in HALO. ok thanks. as u are probably wanting for halo to also have -blam!- zombies, horde, iron sights, strong gernades, and also jumps. we are a sparten

we dont need 2 jump. oh wait, i forgot u can jump in halo. i say nvm about that i want jumping in bcuz it is a halo exclusive and it is so unique and cool.

NO DOGFIGHT

*Ahem*
Yes, my good sir. I would like something like Dogfight mode where everyone gets Banshees and Hornets.

  • 08.12.2009 8:33 PM PDT

A wise man once said, "Treat every stressful situation like a dog. If you can't eat it or hump it, piss on it and walk away."

Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
And what happened to the covenant vehicles in those bases?


I could add them, but I thought UNSC would be better by itself.

Also replying to Bliznade here, They could make it so you can fall to your death.

[Edited on 08.12.2009 9:37 PM PDT]

  • 08.12.2009 9:35 PM PDT

"I only speak two languages: English and Bad English,"
-Bruce Willis, The Fifth Element

I escaped into the waves. The waves...
I went Underground!

This could work great with objective gametypes like CTF and Assault. Two bases on cliffs right in front of each other. Only way to get to each other is to fly there. Pelican can transport most of the dudes to the other base, but is weakened weapon-wise so the main focus of the guys in Hornets and banshees would be to protect their team's pelican, and destroy the other team's.



[Edited on 08.12.2009 9:44 PM PDT]

  • 08.12.2009 9:43 PM PDT
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I like the idea because me and my friends would just fly around killing each other and make machinima using the vehicles.

  • 08.12.2009 10:37 PM PDT

Posted by: Brent A G
I like the idea because me and my friends would just fly around killing each other and make machinima using the vehicles.

*Runs to grab capture card*
This could be a great addition to halo for machinima makers out there. Hell, they could even use it for Halo 3 machinimas.

  • 08.12.2009 11:11 PM PDT
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You can't kill what's dead.

Stand. Fight. Resist. S2F.

If Banshees and other air vehicles could fly faster, than yes, this idea would be pretty cool.

  • 08.12.2009 11:14 PM PDT

A wise man once said, "Treat every stressful situation like a dog. If you can't eat it or hump it, piss on it and walk away."

Posted by: GHOST REVOLVER
If Banshees and other air vehicles could fly faster, than yes, this idea would be pretty cool.


Please explain. There would not be banshees as this is a UNSC only vehicle thingy... (Epic Fail...)
I have already said in the OP that there would be a speed boost to the hornets.

  • 08.12.2009 11:30 PM PDT
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You can't kill what's dead.

Stand. Fight. Resist. S2F.

Posted by: BOB BLABLA
Posted by: GHOST REVOLVER
If Banshees and other air vehicles could fly faster, than yes, this idea would be pretty cool.


Please explain. There would not be banshees as this is a UNSC only vehicle thingy... (Epic Fail...)
I have already said in the OP that there would be a speed boost to the hornets.


Epic fail? Um, sorry that I made such an enormous mistake by including the Banshee. I'm saying air vehicles IN GENERAL should fly faster, without a boost, in order for this gametype to work.. And Hornet's wouldn't work well to begin with. They're meant for hovering and flying parallel to the ground. We need air vehicles that can fly much faster and can fly like a normal fighter plane.

[Edited on 08.12.2009 11:39 PM PDT]

  • 08.12.2009 11:39 PM PDT
Subject: Game mode Idea - Dogfight

"I only speak two languages: English and Bad English,"
-Bruce Willis, The Fifth Element

I escaped into the waves. The waves...
I went Underground!

Posted by: BOB BLABLA
Posted by: GHOST REVOLVER
If Banshees and other air vehicles could fly faster, than yes, this idea would be pretty cool.


Please explain. There would not be banshees as this is a UNSC only vehicle thingy... (Epic Fail...)
I have already said in the OP that there would be a speed boost to the hornets.

Why are there only UNSC vehicles? Covenant and Human would make a good mix.

Banshee- Movement
Hornet-Firepower

  • 08.12.2009 11:40 PM PDT
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You can't kill what's dead.

Stand. Fight. Resist. S2F.

Posted by: Havoc 101
Posted by: BOB BLABLA
Posted by: GHOST REVOLVER
If Banshees and other air vehicles could fly faster, than yes, this idea would be pretty cool.


Please explain. There would not be banshees as this is a UNSC only vehicle thingy... (Epic Fail...)
I have already said in the OP that there would be a speed boost to the hornets.

Why are there only UNSC vehicles? Covenant and Human would make a good mix.

Banshee- Movement
Hornet-Firepower


That's what I was thinking, but I guess not...

  • 08.12.2009 11:42 PM PDT
Subject: Game mode Idea - Air battle

A wise man once said, "Treat every stressful situation like a dog. If you can't eat it or hump it, piss on it and walk away."

Posted by: Havoc 101
Posted by: BOB BLABLA
Posted by: GHOST REVOLVER
If Banshees and other air vehicles could fly faster, than yes, this idea would be pretty cool.


Please explain. There would not be banshees as this is a UNSC only vehicle thingy... (Epic Fail...)
I have already said in the OP that there would be a speed boost to the hornets.

Why are there only UNSC vehicles? Covenant and Human would make a good mix.

Banshee- Movement
Hornet-Firepower



I'm still thinking on that actually. But anyway, I wanted it to be balanced between the covenant and UNSC for vehicles but there are no vehicles to speak of that are the covenant counterparts of the fighter jet and longsword fighter. That is why I scrapped the idea of the covenant vehicles.
This is all I could come up with anyway:

Longsword-none
Jet-none
Hornet-Banshee
Pelican-Phantom


Maybe the banshee would go better with being the counterpart of the jet, but then I wouldn't have anything as the hornet's covenant counterpart.

Unless there are vehicles that I do not know of, I wouldn't put that idea in there.


Oh and what I meant by the hornet having a slight speed boost wasn't having to press anything to speed up, it was that the hornet moved faster in general.


[Edited on 08.12.2009 11:53 PM PDT]

  • 08.12.2009 11:52 PM PDT

"I only speak two languages: English and Bad English,"
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I went Underground!

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Posted by: Havoc 101
Posted by: BOB BLABLA
Posted by: GHOST REVOLVER
If Banshees and other air vehicles could fly faster, than yes, this idea would be pretty cool.


Please explain. There would not be banshees as this is a UNSC only vehicle thingy... (Epic Fail...)
I have already said in the OP that there would be a speed boost to the hornets.

Why are there only UNSC vehicles? Covenant and Human would make a good mix.

Banshee- Movement
Hornet-Firepower



I'm still thinking on that actually. But anyway, I wanted it to be balanced between the covenant and UNSC for vehicles but there are no vehicles to speak of that are the covenant counterparts of the fighter jet and longsword fighter. That is why I scrapped the idea of the covenant vehicles.
This is all I could come up with anyway:

Longsword-none
Jet-none
Hornet-Banshee
Pelican-Phantom


Maybe the banshee would go better with being the counterpart of the jet, but then I wouldn't have anything as the hornet's covenant counterpart.

Unless there are vehicles that I do not know of, I wouldn't put that idea in there.


Oh and what I meant by the hornet having a slight speed boost wasn't having to press anything to speed up, it was that the hornet moved faster in general.

Actually there are a few:
Longsword- Seraph (covneant fighter seen in Halo 2 in the Heretic Leader's hangar. Also in books and briefly seen in Halo 3's Ark cutscene)
Jet- Vampire (From Halo Wars. Halo Wars does take place before the events of Reach so we could see it in this.)

  • 08.12.2009 11:56 PM PDT

Posted by: BOB BLABLA
Posted by: Havoc 101
Posted by: BOB BLABLA
Posted by: GHOST REVOLVER
If Banshees and other air vehicles could fly faster, than yes, this idea would be pretty cool.


Please explain. There would not be banshees as this is a UNSC only vehicle thingy... (Epic Fail...)
I have already said in the OP that there would be a speed boost to the hornets.

Why are there only UNSC vehicles? Covenant and Human would make a good mix.

Banshee- Movement
Hornet-Firepower



I'm still thinking on that actually. But anyway, I wanted it to be balanced between the covenant and UNSC for vehicles but there are no vehicles to speak of that are the covenant counterparts of the fighter jet and longsword fighter. That is why I scrapped the idea of the covenant vehicles.
This is all I could come up with anyway:

Longsword-none
Jet-none
Hornet-Banshee
Pelican-Phantom


Maybe the banshee would go better with being the counterpart of the jet, but then I wouldn't have anything as the hornet's covenant counterpart.

Unless there are vehicles that I do not know of, I wouldn't put that idea in there.


Oh and what I meant by the hornet having a slight speed boost wasn't having to press anything to speed up, it was that the hornet moved faster in general.

Longsword isn't an atmospheric fighter (Shortsword is), but if you want a counterpart for the Covenant, the Seraph which is also space only. For a Jet, you could use a Vampire, but that is an air superiority sort of thing..

  • 08.12.2009 11:58 PM PDT

A wise man once said, "Treat every stressful situation like a dog. If you can't eat it or hump it, piss on it and walk away."

Posted by: Havoc 101
Posted by: BOB BLABLA
Posted by: Havoc 101
Posted by: BOB BLABLA
Posted by: GHOST REVOLVER
If Banshees and other air vehicles could fly faster, than yes, this idea would be pretty cool.


Please explain. There would not be banshees as this is a UNSC only vehicle thingy... (Epic Fail...)
I have already said in the OP that there would be a speed boost to the hornets.

Why are there only UNSC vehicles? Covenant and Human would make a good mix.

Banshee- Movement
Hornet-Firepower



I'm still thinking on that actually. But anyway, I wanted it to be balanced between the covenant and UNSC for vehicles but there are no vehicles to speak of that are the covenant counterparts of the fighter jet and longsword fighter. That is why I scrapped the idea of the covenant vehicles.
This is all I could come up with anyway:

Longsword-none
Jet-none
Hornet-Banshee
Pelican-Phantom


Maybe the banshee would go better with being the counterpart of the jet, but then I wouldn't have anything as the hornet's covenant counterpart.

Unless there are vehicles that I do not know of, I wouldn't put that idea in there.


Oh and what I meant by the hornet having a slight speed boost wasn't having to press anything to speed up, it was that the hornet moved faster in general.

Actually there are a few:
Longsword- Seraph (covneant fighter seen in Halo 2 in the Heretic Leader's hangar. Also in books and briefly seen in Halo 3's Ark cutscene)
Jet- Vampire (From Halo Wars. Halo Wars does take place before the events of Reach so we could see it in this.)


I love you (jk). I'm adding this into the OP

  • 08.12.2009 11:59 PM PDT

lol

Halo Custom Edition is the answer to your prayers.

  • 08.13.2009 12:55 AM PDT

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