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Subject: Theory on why there are no Battle Rifles in ODST.

No the Superintendent saw all the battle rifles littering the ground, acknowledged them as garbage, and disposed of them properly.

  • 08.13.2009 6:43 AM PDT
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  • 08.13.2009 6:46 AM PDT
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IMO what happened was since they have a long barrel the UNSC used them as kebabs and roasted jackal on the end. Jackal got down the BR's barrel, and all the BRs jammed. I was there, trust me.

If hungry eat Jackal.

  • 08.13.2009 6:47 AM PDT
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how do i reply to the topic rather than reply to this guys message? lol im sorry i just cant find it anywhere hahha

  • 08.13.2009 6:48 AM PDT

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Logistics. These ODSTs where simply given specialist gear, like the Brutes in ODSTs have been given specilaised gear (namely the shield generators and armour).

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nvm....hahhaha i thought it was gunna go on his....anyway..i think the BR was the best weapon by FAR and they deffintly shouldnt have took it out...BUT...the smg has a silencer now...giving it a smaller crossair...which involves more skill in hitting the target...i dont know if hitting the head does extra damage but it definitly should...if it does then it will be an awesome gun that involves just as much skilll as the BR

  • 08.13.2009 6:51 AM PDT

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BRs are significantly louder than most weapons
BRs have a weird barrel that seems like it can't be silenced
BRs points outwards more than other weapons so positions can be blown


3 reasons for me, but just theories.

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Posted by: Random Elite
Logistics. These ODSTs where simply given specialist gear, like the Brutes in ODSTs have been given specilaised gear (namely the shield generators and armour).


ARe you saying the ODST's in halo ODST are different than the other ODST's in halo 2 and 3?...because ODST's are shown with BR's often in halo 2 and 3

  • 08.13.2009 6:56 AM PDT

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Posted by: White Caedes
Posted by: Random Elite
Logistics. These ODSTs where simply given specialist gear, like the Brutes in ODSTs have been given specilaised gear (namely the shield generators and armour).


ARe you saying the ODST's in halo ODST are different than the other ODST's in halo 2 and 3?...because ODST's are shown with BR's often in halo 2 and 3
Yeah, but we don't know if they were random ODST, or specialist ODST. Which could be different because of certain situations. I'm thinking we see ODST in Halo 2, and Halo 3 near us due to the lack of marines, and certain missions where you almost need help as the Chief, but Halo 3: ODST is a different story. You're aiming for the carrier, which you miss of course, so you were briefed to go against a lot, and I do mean a lot of infantry in close combat situations, which they were briefed with the silenced SMG, and magnum.

  • 08.13.2009 6:58 AM PDT

My troll sense is tingling.

The reason is because of the auto-mag. It does the same power, and same zoom. Bungie didn't want to pull a CoD/Rainbow Six and have a bunch of guns that do the same thing.

  • 08.13.2009 6:59 AM PDT

"If you push this button. Someone. Somewhere will die.

BUT.

You will, hey wait! Didn't you wanna hear what you'd get first!"

But then they were thrown back down to earth in the shape of what looked like a helmet. Brutes found em and started walking like pimps with new hats.

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Posted by: White Caedes
Posted by: Random Elite
Logistics. These ODSTs where simply given specialist gear, like the Brutes in ODSTs have been given specilaised gear (namely the shield generators and armour).


ARe you saying the ODST's in halo ODST are different than the other ODST's in halo 2 and 3?...because ODST's are shown with BR's often in halo 2 and 3
Yeah, but we don't know if they were random ODST, or specialist ODST. Which could be different because of certain situations. I'm thinking we see ODST in Halo 2, and Halo 3 near us due to the lack of marines, and certain missions where you almost need help as the Chief, but Halo 3: ODST is a different story. You're aiming for the carrier, which you miss of course, so you were briefed to go against a lot, and I do mean a lot of infantry in close combat situations, which they were briefed with the silenced SMG, and magnum.


yeah but are you saying the entire game is 1 mission...because you would think different missions would have different scenarios in which they might have to use long combat weapons from the BR to the sniper...well i know that you do have the sniper in ODST..but i mean the BR is still a very usefull weapon...if the Silenced SMG dosent have as long of a range as the BR dose then there is still much use for a BR right....

  • 08.13.2009 7:02 AM PDT

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No, this whole anwser lies within the lower levels of the covinent. What happened was that the grunts saw MC owning all other grunts with awsome headshots using the BR so they decided to steal all the UNSC's BRs so they could try to four shot and noob combo people. The eventual game Halo:Grunt rebellion developed and the game was so bad the grunts ended up throwing the BRs (they would have commited suicide but they relized they didnt have there plasma pistols or grenades, and by the time the were re-equiped they forgot about the whole mess) out into the slipspace rupture and they are now floating out in the bowls of space. i wouldnt take the time to look for them though.

  • 08.13.2009 7:05 AM PDT

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Posted by: White Caedes
Posted by: EPIC Zuul
Posted by: White Caedes
Posted by: Random Elite
Logistics. These ODSTs where simply given specialist gear, like the Brutes in ODSTs have been given specilaised gear (namely the shield generators and armour).


ARe you saying the ODST's in halo ODST are different than the other ODST's in halo 2 and 3?...because ODST's are shown with BR's often in halo 2 and 3
Yeah, but we don't know if they were random ODST, or specialist ODST. Which could be different because of certain situations. I'm thinking we see ODST in Halo 2, and Halo 3 near us due to the lack of marines, and certain missions where you almost need help as the Chief, but Halo 3: ODST is a different story. You're aiming for the carrier, which you miss of course, so you were briefed to go against a lot, and I do mean a lot of infantry in close combat situations, which they were briefed with the silenced SMG, and magnum.


yeah but are you saying the entire game is 1 mission...because you would think different missions would have different scenarios in which they might have to use long combat weapons from the BR to the sniper...well i know that you do have the sniper in ODST..but i mean the BR is still a very usefull weapon...if the Silenced SMG dosent have as long of a range as the BR dose then there is still much use for a BR right....
I'm talking about story wise, as in the ship was mostly close quarter, or at least it should be, other than the cargo bay. So they were specially equipped with close quartered weapons.

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yes i agree...but do you think the silenced SMG will put as much skill and excitement into the game as the BR did?...do you think there is headshot bonus damage for the silenced SMG?

  • 08.13.2009 7:09 AM PDT

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Obviously, the MC used up all the BR ammo in Mombasa during his time there. Greedy bastard.

  • 08.13.2009 7:21 AM PDT
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The Flood Revolution is coming...

They forgot to grab one before they dropped.

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  • 08.13.2009 7:25 AM PDT

Posted by: UnsayableTech
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The battle rifle wasn't invented before Halo 2, whch is when this takes place.



The more you know

Two problems with that. It existed way before Halo 2, along with the SMG, by the way. Seriously, you have to be an idiot to think just because it wasn't included it means it wouldn't exist.

Second, this is near the end of Halo 2.


your bothwrong the battle rifle prototype was in the first battle of harvest and ODST is near the start of halo 2



ODST is 2 weeks before the start of Halo 3

  • 08.13.2009 7:39 AM PDT

There is a simple reason to why the ODST's are not brining along BR's along with them this time.
The ODST's are going to land inside, ontop or nearby Regret's Capital ship, and the reason why they are doing this is so that they can take out the ship, and render it useless and at the same time capture one of the Prophets, something that the UNSC has been planning to do for a while, they even tried to send Master Cheif and some other SPARTANS II's to capture one, but that plan obviously failed. Their intention was to capture one, and hopefully with his capture, they could negotiate a cease fire, or possibly end the war.
Now, keep in mind that these Capital ships are HUGE. The Covenant's Captial ship can easily drawrf the UNSC'S largest and most powerful ship, not to mention one of these can take on mutiple UNSC frigates, etc - This is the main reason why Humans are losing the war, The Covenant have Space/Air superiority, and because of this they are winning. Humans can have a fair chance of winning on the ground, but when the ships come in, its game over.
Back on topic, ODST's are planning to inflitrate this ship, and because this ship is huge, the Covenant may or may not notice ODST's landing on their ship, and they will have the element of surprise with them. By using these smaller, silenced weapons, the ODST's can keep the element for a longer time, and have a more successful chance of taking over the ship.
If they were to bring along the BR, it would simply be too big, and too loud to be allowed on such a sensitive operation. If you have seen that live action Halo short, you have seen the BR, and you know how big that is, and why it would be so ineffective in the Capital Ship. The area promotes CQB fighting, and the SMG and the Pistol are perfect for this.
The BR could hypothetically be silecened, but it would make the gun that more bigger and it would reduce the range and the aim as well.
In short, they are not brining the BR because they are planning on a Stealthly, Close range combat in order to capture the ship and the Prophet. The BR is simply to big and too loud.

  • 08.13.2009 7:57 AM PDT
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Posted by: Deegs14
There is a simple reason to why the ODST's are not brining along BR's along with them this time.
The ODST's are going to land inside, ontop or nearby Regret's Capital ship, and the reason why they are doing this is so that they can take out the ship, and render it useless and at the same time capture one of the Prophets, something that the UNSC has been planning to do for a while, they even tried to send Master Cheif and some other SPARTANS II's to capture one, but that plan obviously failed. Their intention was to capture one, and hopefully with his capture, they could negotiate a cease fire, or possibly end the war.
Now, keep in mind that these Capital ships are HUGE. The Covenant's Captial ship can easily drawrf the UNSC'S largest and most powerful ship, not to mention one of these can take on mutiple UNSC frigates, etc - This is the main reason why Humans are losing the war, The Covenant have Space/Air superiority, and because of this they are winning. Humans can have a fair chance of winning on the ground, but when the ships come in, its game over.
Back on topic, ODST's are planning to inflitrate this ship, and because this ship is huge, the Covenant may or may not notice ODST's landing on their ship, and they will have the element of surprise with them. By using these smaller, silenced weapons, the ODST's can keep the element for a longer time, and have a more successful chance of taking over the ship.
If they were to bring along the BR, it would simply be too big, and too loud to be allowed on such a sensitive operation. If you have seen that live action Halo short, you have seen the BR, and you know how big that is, and why it would be so ineffective in the Capital Ship. The area promotes CQB fighting, and the SMG and the Pistol are perfect for this.
The BR could hypothetically be silecened, but it would make the gun that more bigger and it would reduce the range and the aim as well.
In short, they are not brining the BR because they are planning on a Stealthly, Close range combat in order to capture the ship and the Prophet. The BR is simply to big and too loud.
I can understand your theory, but orders are orders. Dare is the captain and her orders are more important than the carrier.

Watch.

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@ rell 57

ROFL,out of all the explanations here,that makes the most sense.....

[Edited on 08.13.2009 8:57 AM PDT]

  • 08.13.2009 8:55 AM PDT

Posted by: ZTkillroy
Posted by: CileDog
The battle rifle wasn't invented before Halo 2, whch is when this takes place.



The more you know



Your right..you do need to know more.. This takes place after the covies jumped into slipspace in New Mombasa. Which Happened Half Way Through Halo 2. Where there were most definitley Battle Rifles



this is a prequel to halo3 after2 before three

  • 08.13.2009 9:04 AM PDT
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Posted by: CrossFire0018
Posted by: ZTkillroy
Posted by: CileDog
The battle rifle wasn't invented before Halo 2, whch is when this takes place.



The more you know



Your right..you do need to know more.. This takes place after the covies jumped into slipspace in New Mombasa. Which Happened Half Way Through Halo 2. Where there were most definitley Battle Rifles



this is a prequel to halo3 after2 before three
More like during 2, just another POV.

  • 08.13.2009 9:10 AM PDT

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I think the REAL Reason is that if the ODST's took a BR down to New Mombasa they wouldn't be able to carry much ammo and eventually run out of ammo.

The SMG is something they can take down.

  • 08.13.2009 9:13 AM PDT

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