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Subject: Heretic Default Grenades

I was watching a gameplay video of Heretic (Midship) on youtube and I realized that the default grenades that you spawn with are plasma grenades. I know this was the case in Halo 2's Midship but I didn't think that was an option in Halo 3.
Sticky starts was one of the main reasons Midship was so good. Just thought I'd point that out, might be old news though.

Heretic Video Proof at 1:03

[Edited on 08.13.2009 11:21 AM PDT]

  • 08.13.2009 11:17 AM PDT
Subject: Heretic

cant you change the crap your start off with in the game settings?

  • 08.13.2009 11:18 AM PDT

THE ZERO

Im dissapointed about Heretic being a Midship remake. Its going to be the whole Blackout thing again the MLGs wanted a Lockout remake, they got one and they never use it. Now they are never going to use Heretic. I would rather have an orginal map.

  • 08.13.2009 11:20 AM PDT

Posted by: Higgman
cant you change the crap your start off with in the game settings?

you can but not with as much customability as H2 and grenade starts is one of the features we lost.

  • 08.13.2009 11:20 AM PDT

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Not to just Sticky Grenades.

This map has built in Sticky Nade Starts and built in BR Starts but the owner changed it to AR Starts.

This was approved quite a while ago by MLG when they got a Preview a few weeks before Halo 3: ODST was announced(When it was called Halo 3: Recon)
Posted by: Higgman
cant you change the crap your start off with in the game settings?

  • 08.13.2009 11:21 AM PDT

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Bungie didn't remake Lockout just because of MLG.

They remade it due to popular demand.

Heretic has been a better favourite since Halo 3's Release and now it has finally arrived :D MLG are not in control of Bungie so it wasn't MLG's fault and MLG don't use Blackout simply because of there Spawns not being close enough to Lockout's.
Posted by: hiippiie
Im dissapointed about Heretic being a Midship remake. Its going to be the whole Blackout thing again the MLGs wanted a Lockout remake, they got one and they never use it. Now they are never going to use Heretic. I would rather have an orginal map.

  • 08.13.2009 11:24 AM PDT

Your blood will clean the blood for now.

MLG freaking sucks. A group of people tell a company that makes video game to make maps only for them? Selfish bastards.

  • 08.13.2009 11:25 AM PDT

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Jesus Christ dude they didn't.....

All MLG and Bungie have in common is there is a MLG Matchmaking Playlist.

Nothing else.
Posted by: Survivor Fo
MLG freaking sucks. A group of people tell a company that makes video game to make maps only for them? Selfish bastards.

  • 08.13.2009 11:28 AM PDT

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Posted by: ODST Mickey
Bungie didn't remake Lockout just because of MLG.

They remade it due to popular demand.

Heretic has been a better favourite since Halo 3's Release and now it has finally arrived :D MLG are not in control of Bungie so it wasn't MLG's fault and MLG don't use Blackout simply because of there Spawns not being close enough to Lockout's.
Posted by: hiippiie
Im dissapointed about Heretic being a Midship remake. Its going to be the whole Blackout thing again the MLGs wanted a Lockout remake, they got one and they never use it. Now they are never going to use Heretic. I would rather have an orginal map.
I just saying in my opinion that I would rather have an orginal map. I never liked Midship anyway.

  • 08.13.2009 11:29 AM PDT

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Well it was impossible with how bad the Graphics where on the map without making lost of changes.

Lockout was on the Halo Ring.....

Posted by: hiippiie
Posted by: ODST Mickey
Bungie didn't remake Lockout just because of MLG.

They remade it due to popular demand.

Heretic has been a better favourite since Halo 3's Release and now it has finally arrived :D MLG are not in control of Bungie so it wasn't MLG's fault and MLG don't use Blackout simply because of there Spawns not being close enough to Lockout's.
Posted by: hiippiie
Im dissapointed about Heretic being a Midship remake. Its going to be the whole Blackout thing again the MLGs wanted a Lockout remake, they got one and they never use it. Now they are never going to use Heretic. I would rather have an orginal map.
I just saying in my opinion that I would rather have an orginal map. I never liked Midship anyway.

  • 08.13.2009 11:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: Higgman
cant you change the crap your start off with in the game settings?
You can't change type of grenades you start out with. It's either self replenisning grenades(infinite, 3 types) Default Frags or no grenades. No option for Plasmas by itself.

The option is called "default" for a reason and not "frag starts" it depends on the map. It did this in several Halo 2 levels. Midship being one, Gemini(i think) being another. Some had the default of no starting grenades(backwash). So yeah, Bungie can change the Map Default for grenades and such.

  • 08.13.2009 11:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: ODST Mickey
Jesus Christ dude they didn't.....

All MLG and Bungie have in common is there is a MLG Matchmaking Playlist.

Nothing else.


So Bungie just says lets make a map for MLG because we feel like it?

  • 08.13.2009 11:33 AM PDT

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Exactly.

Just playing Midship Halo 2 before to get warmed up :D
Had Sticky Nade starts.

And yes it says Map Default for a reason because Bungie can change it along with everything else with Map Default.

  • 08.13.2009 11:34 AM PDT

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You are such an idiot.....

Blackout was not made for MLG it was made for every player who downloaded the Legendary Map Pack.

Stop being such an idiot. MLG did not force Bungie to make any map ever!

Lockout and Midship just happen to be MLG Favourites. Nothing else.

Do you get it now?
Posted by: Survivor Fo
Posted by: ODST Mickey
Jesus Christ dude they didn't.....

All MLG and Bungie have in common is there is a MLG Matchmaking Playlist.

Nothing else.


So Bungie just says lets make a map for MLG because we feel like it?

  • 08.13.2009 11:37 AM PDT

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Man, some of the best fun in Halo 2 was me and a friend (and sometimes two others) playing Shotguns and stickies. Hectic and fun. I'm really looking forward to this map.

  • 08.13.2009 11:43 AM PDT

Your blood will clean the blood for now.

Its stupid but whatever.

  • 08.13.2009 11:50 AM PDT

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Posted by: hiippiie
Im dissapointed about Heretic being a Midship remake. Its going to be the whole Blackout thing again the MLGs wanted a Lockout remake, they got one and they never use it. Now they are never going to use Heretic. I would rather have an orginal map.

No it's not. Bungie has made it very clear that they intentionally changed what they did in Blackout. They say now that the only thing that will effect gameplay differently on Heretic are equipment.

  • 08.13.2009 11:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: Phoenix9508
Posted by: hiippiie
Im dissapointed about Heretic being a Midship remake. Its going to be the whole Blackout thing again the MLGs wanted a Lockout remake, they got one and they never use it. Now they are never going to use Heretic. I would rather have an orginal map.

No it's not. Bungie has made it very clear that they intentionally changed what they did in Blackout. They say now that the only thing that will effect gameplay differently on Heretic are equipment and the Bridge is not bouncy anymore


Fixed.

  • 08.13.2009 11:54 AM PDT

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Posted by: hiippiie
Im dissapointed about Heretic being a Midship remake. Its going to be the whole Blackout thing again the MLGs wanted a Lockout remake, they got one and they never use it. Now they are never going to use Heretic. I would rather have an orginal map.

MidShip was one of the best Halo 2 maps in my opinion so I'm glad they remade it.

  • 08.13.2009 12:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: hiippiie
Im dissapointed about Heretic being a Midship remake. Its going to be the whole Blackout thing again the MLGs wanted a Lockout remake, they got one and they never use it. Now they are never going to use Heretic. I would rather have an orginal map.

I would rather have a tree-house!

  • 08.13.2009 1:06 PM PDT
Subject: Heretic Default Grenades

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  • 08.13.2009 1:08 PM PDT
Subject: Heretic

Posted by: Duardo
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Posted by: hiippiie
Im dissapointed about Heretic being a Midship remake. Its going to be the whole Blackout thing again the MLGs wanted a Lockout remake, they got one and they never use it. Now they are never going to use Heretic. I would rather have an orginal map.
Maybe if Bungie stayed true to lockout then maybe Blackout would be alot more popular.

  • 08.13.2009 1:10 PM PDT

I'll hold the rope..... and the camera. 'Cause I'm a multitasker like that.

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Ok, if you say so boss!

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I like Blackout because it's complex, but I also don't like it because it's too complex. Radar just confuses it and you can always be take from behind.

  • 08.13.2009 1:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: hiippiie
Im dissapointed about Heretic being a Midship remake. Its going to be the whole Blackout thing again the MLGs wanted a Lockout remake, they got one and they never use it. Now they are never going to use Heretic. I would rather have an orginal map.
First of all, you haven't played the map before. Second of all, Bungie promised to make this a nearly exact remake, unlike Blackout. Supposedly the only major difference is the map textures and something to do with the sword platform being less bouncy.

  • 08.13.2009 1:14 PM PDT

Posted by: hiippiie
Im dissapointed about Heretic being a Midship remake. Its going to be the whole Blackout thing again the MLGs wanted a Lockout remake, they got one and they never use it. Now they are never going to use Heretic. I would rather have an orginal map.
I'm looking forward to Heretic. It's supposed to be a pixel for pixel remake. No aesthetics changes, but you're right, I'm pretty sure the MLG community will find something to whine about.

"It's too purple! It can't be MLG!"

  • 08.13.2009 1:40 PM PDT

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