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Subject: NOOOOOOO there shutting off HALO 2

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  • 10.01.2009 1:24 PM PDT
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your right you know.. i only have xbox original.. KEEP HALO 2

  • 10.01.2009 3:56 PM PDT

dam

  • 10.01.2009 4:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: CmdrScott1701
Actually young sir, I do understand. My xbox 360 is currently inoperable therefor it is no more. I rid myself of all but the past for micro-soft is seeing its end in the near future. The 360 was doomed before the ship even sank, using out dated hardware somehow managing to adapt new software and make it so... somewhat. Though it works well when operational there just are too many problems the xbox has that is impossible to prevent. Halo 2 was my favorite for multiplayer, screw graphics. Kids these days want too much in terms of everything: realism, instant gratification, "things," etc. Do you understand my point though? Sometimes life is at its best simple. Not to put anyone on this forum down... but look at retarded people. They see the world without all the wants but through needs and we as the majority normal see it as weakness when it ultimately is easy living. Now do not misinterpret thee, I do not wish for us all to run around as a bunch of insane baboons to live right, (although I'd hate to say that it already happens just look at us Americans,) but rather to progress with our past in tact and in memory. If Halo 2 is to be discontinued over as it was then I seek reassurance it will not be lost for good... perhaps conventions. Times as such to enjoy the past. More I have to be said however I hope I won't have to explain, for thy ears are wise are they not? Übrigens, wo haben Sie Deutsch lernen? ~Cm


Ja, ich habe deutsch in mein Schule gelernt.

I know there's a saying that we study from our past to learn from our mistakes. And that's why Halo 3 exists to fix the mistakes we made in Halo 2. But we fixed all the errors in Halo 2. It's time to let go of the past.

The problems with the Xbox 360 have all been fixed. No longer do people with new or repaired 360's need to worry about getting the red rings of death. Besides, everything breaks down. If you leave the PS3 on for one day straight, it's going to fry. The Wiimote tends to misalign a lot or the analog stick gets jammed sometimes. And only Microsoft will fix their problems for free. But of course the problem has been fixed. I haven't had red rings for over 2 years since my 360 was fixed. So there are no problems to prevent on the 360 in the first place. At the time the 360 was released, its hardware was considered to be very advanced. But even today, its hardware isn't that bad. And it's only a matter of time before the next-gen Xbox 360's come out.

  • 10.01.2009 5:15 PM PDT

Posted by: General Heed
But we fixed all the errors in Halo 2. It's time to let go of the past.
I didn't know you worked for Bungie, good for you.

It will be time to let go of the past when it is actually in the past and it won't be that until they shut down H2 Live. Until then it is still in the present, even though only a few play compared to how many used to play.

  • 10.01.2009 7:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: General Heed
But we fixed all the errors in Halo 2. It's time to let go of the past.
I didn't know you worked for Bungie, good for you.

It will be time to let go of the past when it is actually in the past and it won't be that until they shut down H2 Live. Until then it is still in the present, even though only a few play compared to how many used to play.


Well personally, I'd like Halo 2 to stay on Xbox Live, sometimes I like to go to it to escape from all the competitiveness of the modern Halo games. But like I said, if it's necessary to shut down Halo 2, then there's really nothing I can do. It's better if I just accept it.

  • 10.01.2009 8:20 PM PDT
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Who here thinks they should make a uber powerful Grunt Plasma Rifle thats shoots out naked flaming Chuck Norrises?

This is a sad day indeed. I better go and play a game tomorrow just to get a final game in.

Good thing system link will still exist.

  • 10.01.2009 10:50 PM PDT
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Allow me to begin with a question for thee. Do you know what you're talking about lad? And it's only a matter of time before the next-gen Xbox 360's come out. No sir, If micro-soft is to create yet another, improved gaming system they would forfeit their profits. Invested all the money into the faulty Xbox 360 console was not a good idea on their part, now they cannot create anything better without loosing what was sought forever to be made, their profits I speak of aye. Aye, the console is as fun as hell, however tis' one enjoyable of a piece of trash. Also kind sir, I believe that term is used for horrid mistakes of the past, such as genocide, Halo 2 was horrid in no such way. In fact, I do believe quite the opposite. Many brought it to their hearts, Halo 2 that is. Who knew thee loved thee, those who didn't 'know' thee, yet loved thee still. Are we to condemn such greatness in our history forever to be lost? Nay. We shan't. We should keep as is, as long as we can, not rid when unnecessary. For that is what is to become of Halo 2? An unfortunate happening. Unless it is to be held longer within. Needless to say Halo 2 was never, and should never be remotely related to failure. It is not an option. ~Cm

[Edited on 10.02.2009 12:24 PM PDT]

  • 10.02.2009 12:21 PM PDT

Currently Playing:
Halo: CE
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo 3 ODST
Halo Reach

Damn, I just picked up Halo 2 and CE today after not having them for a long time. I was hoping to play some H2 online. Oh well, I actually enjoyed the campaign enough that I don't feel totally screwed. Plus, back in the day, I played the crap out of H2.

RIP

  • 10.02.2009 12:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: CmdrScott1701
Allow me to begin with a question for thee. Do you know what you're talking about lad? And it's only a matter of time before the next-gen Xbox 360's come out. No sir, If micro-soft is to create yet another, improved gaming system they would forfeit their profits. Invested all the money into the faulty Xbox 360 console was not a good idea on their part, now they cannot create anything better without loosing what was sought forever to be made, their profits I speak of aye. Aye, the console is as fun as hell, however tis' one enjoyable of a piece of trash. Also kind sir, I believe that term is used for horrid mistakes of the past, such as genocide, Halo 2 was horrid in no such way. In fact, I do believe quite the opposite. Many brought it to their hearts, Halo 2 that is. Who knew thee loved thee, those who didn't 'know' thee, yet loved thee still. Are we to condemn such greatness in our history forever to be lost? Nay. We shan't. We should keep as is, as long as we can, not rid when unnecessary. For that is what is to become of Halo 2? An unfortunate happening. Unless it is to be held longer within. Needless to say Halo 2 was never, and should never be remotely related to failure. It is not an option. ~Cm


Like I said, the new Xbox 360's do not experience the problem of Red Rings of Death anymore. And just because they're shutting down Halo 2 does not mean it was a failure. It's a great game but a great poet once said,

"Nothing gold lasts forever" -Robert Frost

  • 10.02.2009 2:48 PM PDT
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For gold lasts not without a stable spirit. Nothing gold lasts forever for we do not stress it to enough. In some cases, as emotions perhaps, do in fact last forever. The emotions of the memories found within the great sequel will in fact last throughout the stars in great eternity young lord. Love, happiness, joy, glee, all are eternal in heart. Any sole who has been touched by thy angel such as thy sequel will second this here statement. "If patience is worth anything, it must endure to the end of time. And a living faith will last in the midst of the blackest storm. " ~Mohandas Gandhi ~Cm

  • 10.02.2009 3:02 PM PDT
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R.I.P. Halo 2
11/9/04 - 4/15/10

- B( )B

Posted by: General Heed

I see you're quite the poet.

Sprechst du Deutsch? Hast du ein Xbox 360 und Halo 3? Halo 2 ist nicht gut oder es ist sehr alt.

Hope you can really speak german to understand that phrase.

Anyways, sure there are a few people stuck with original xbox consoles. But it's not that many people. Not enough to hold back progress. You see, this whole argument is really an argument between liberals and conservatives.

The liberals who support progress and advancement tend to not care if Halo 2 is shut down or not.

The conservatives who support holding back progress just for one old outdated game tend to become very concerned if Halo 2 is being shut down.

Now, if you can forget about the past and start using modern english instead of ancient shakespear english, then we can have a decent argument.

There's a reason why we use lightbulbs today instead of oil lamps. It's newer technology. Well, Halo 2 is like the oil lamps and all future Halo games are like the lightbulbs. Being a liberal, I'd prefer to use lightbulbs than oil lamps.

Now as I said, I do acknowledge that there are still some people who are stuck with the original xbox. Well, this country is a capitalist country. If we were a communist country, then we would have a standard xbox live service with both systems having the exact same features. Well we can't let that happen to Xbox Live. For the sake of progress, Xbox Live needs change! It's change we need. It will happen! And it's not if we can, but rather Yes we can! Those words are a slight modification of the wise wisdom of President Barack Obama. Like the health care system, Xbox Live needs reform.

Just like how our constitution is constantly amended as time goes on, Xbox Live also needs to be changed as time goes on. Being stuck in the past is not a good thing. Over the years, in order to form a more perfect union, ensure domestic tranquility, and provide for the common defense, sacrifices had to be made. Laws had to be passed restricting certain rights in order to protect other rights. Well, Halo 2 needs to be sacrificed in order to progress into the next-gen Xbox Live and attract more gamers of all types. This is a critical moment in Xbox Live history. Either stick with the past and keep living it while other systems move on to the future or make a tiny sacrifice and progress ahead of the other systems. We didn't get to the moon by trying to build a giant wooden ladder. We did it through innovation.

Hopefully, that knocked some sense and logic into you.

Danke Shon! Du bist sehr interessen. Dein Englisch ist alt. Du bist ein conservative. Du musst habe das future sehen.

Liberals? Progress? That's the most hilarious thing I've heard in a while. The only reason I am not currently destroying you in political debate about health care is because politics is a banned topic on these forums, I'm probably already pushing it with my beginning comment.

Seriously though, why do you insist that people who play Halo 2 are living in the past, why do you insist upon changing XBL so that it benefits no one and pisses off thousands? A larger friends list benefits no one, if you can find 1 person who regularly plays with all 100 players on his/her friends list, I will give you a cookie.

[Edited on 10.03.2009 12:13 AM PDT]

  • 10.03.2009 12:03 AM PDT

Queen is awesome.

Yea I have 96 friends and play with ~6. :p

  • 10.03.2009 6:59 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

several things to general heed:
1. They dont need to shut it down, after all, there are still several dreamcast games still online, as well as many older PC games.
2. Many people still have Xbox originals only, so they still play H2.
3. We arent trying to hold back progress, Halo 2 still has many people on. Same thing if they tried to shut down CS or WoW or some other popular game, people would be MAD!
4. RROD doesnt happen much, as now, we have E74!

[Edited on 10.03.2009 8:53 AM PDT]

  • 10.03.2009 8:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: JacobGRocks
several things to general heed:
1. They dont need to shut it down, after all, there are still several dreamcast games still online, as well as many older PC games.
2. Many people still have Xbox originals only, so they still play H2.
3. We arent trying to hold back progress, Halo 2 still has many people on. Same thing if they tried to shut down CS or WoW or some other popular game, people would be MAD!
4. RROD doesnt happen much, as now, we have E74!


Well, the dreamcast system itself is no longer receiving updates to the system anymore. And the games on the dreamcast are no backwards compatibility games from a previous system. On top of that, online games for the dreamcast are not hosted by Sega Servers. They are hosted by the individual companies that developed the online games. PC games are the same aswell where the developers host the games with their own servers. But Xbox Live games as well as the Xbox 360 system software are all hosted by Microsoft with the exception of some EA games.

The only way to keep Xbox Originals capable of playing online would be to separate Xbox Live into 2 different online services. One for the original xbox and one for all future xbox 360's. The people on the original xbox won't be able to play with people on the 360 anymore but at least they'll still be able to play with other original xbox players.

E74 is actually still pretty rare aswell. It's exact cause is unknown but it's probably some kind of system software glitch. Modern Xbox 360's are pretty much solid at this point. There aren't that many problems with the system anymore.

  • 10.03.2009 10:18 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

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They could always do a Dash update and game updates, as patches can give huge updates, like with burnout paradise, a XBOX LIVE game. It got many updates, which added new features and locked DLC as well as making the game easier. Though, they werent though the normal "this game needs a update" message. Oh, and even though modders already know this, the Xbox Dash is not hardcoded in to the system (it is on the hdd), so ms could update it if they had to.

Also, do you even read kotaku, joystiq, or similar sites? They say the 360 failure rate is high. And no, it isnt a system software glitch, it is a hardware one caused by heat (there are 2 temp fixes, the towel trick and the penny trick). Oh, and I got e74/rrod and many of my friends have as well.

And also, Live is NOT hosted by MS, only the matchmaking servers are.

And one last thing to all new people in this thread:
H2 IS NOT SHUTTING DOWN!

[Edited on 10.03.2009 4:14 PM PDT]

  • 10.03.2009 4:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: JacobGRocks
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They could always do a Dash update and game updates, as patches can give huge updates, like with burnout paradise, a XBOX LIVE game. It got many updates, which added new features and locked DLC as well as making the game easier. Though, they werent though the normal "this game needs a update" message. Oh, and even though modders already know this, the Xbox Dash is not hardcoded in to the system (it is on the hdd), so ms could update it if they had to.

Also, do you even read kotaku, joystiq, or similar sites? They say the 360 failure rate is high. And no, it isnt a system software glitch, it is a hardware one caused by heat (there are 2 temp fixes, the towel trick and the penny trick). Oh, and I got e74/rrod and many of my friends have as well.

And also, Live is NOT hosted by MS, only the matchmaking servers are.

And one last thing to all new people in this thread:
H2 IS NOT SHUTTING DOWN!


I think we've already established the fact that it's not being shut down yet. E74 is not caused by overheating. That's the 3 red rings (or 2 red rings). All those articles are a bit out of date. Most of them are older than 6 months. Some even older than a year. If you were to go to the store and buy a brand new Xbox 360 that was just recently manufactured, it would have a pretty slim chance of failing.

Actually, the Xbox 360 Dashboard with the exception of NXE is not stored on the hard drive but rather the internal system memory. Updates for original xbox games are still possible, but not on the level of changing the xbox live architecture in original xbox games. I haven't found any articles about how xbox live works in original xbox games, but seeing as how every original xbox game has its own xbox live friends list/features, i'd assume that every game had to have Xbox Live hardcoded into it. Xbox 360 games on the other hand don't have individual xbox live friends lists/features in the games like original xbox games had. Instead, everything xbox live related is already on the xbox 360.

When you sign onto Xbox Live, you are connecting to Microsoft Servers. Matchmaking and Xbox Live are essentially run on the same servers.

  • 10.03.2009 8:54 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

1. e74 is caused by heat damage to the AnA scaler chip. Look at sites like xbox scene for more info, they know loads about the 360.
2. I meant the original xbox dashboard, it is stored on the hdd, and errors appear if something messes up.
3. Live on original xbox is different then that. When you sign up/recover your gtag, then turn on your original, it goes to the live dash, where you can voice chat, manage freinds, and accept invites. All games share a freinds list, and can also take invites from others. Oh, and the xbox and 360 are based on the same live, same system, same everything. And also, here is how it works. This was written, btw, when the 360 was new and the old xbox was more popular.

  • 10.03.2009 9:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: JacobGRocks
1. e74 is caused by heat damage to the AnA scaler chip. Look at sites like xbox scene for more info, they know loads about the 360.
2. I meant the original xbox dashboard, it is stored on the hdd, and errors appear if something messes up.
3. Live on original xbox is different then that. When you sign up/recover your gtag, then turn on your original, it goes to the live dash, where you can voice chat, manage freinds, and accept invites. All games share a freinds list, and can also take invites from others. Oh, and the xbox and 360 are based on the same live, same system, same everything. And also, here is how it works. This was written, btw, when the 360 was new and the old xbox was more popular.


Well, I can't quite comment on the original xbox live any deeper than what i've already said since I don't have much experience with it. And are you sure that original xbox games can accept game invites from other games? Whenever I play Halo 2 on the Xbox 360, I never receive messages or invites from my friends playing on Xbox 360 games. I can only receive messages from them when they're also playing Halo 2.

  • 10.03.2009 9:35 PM PDT

lol halocharts

Posted by: FM Kryme


http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/5134/microsoft-to-close-h alo-2-servers
oh teh noes!

  • 10.04.2009 12:19 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Since I own one, i can tell you this: they are connected to the same system. I also have recived invites to 360 and PC (GfWL) games while playing xbox originals on my original xbox or 360 (mainly Halo 3 and Halo 2 PC).

[Edited on 10.04.2009 6:08 AM PDT]

  • 10.04.2009 6:07 AM PDT

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Posted by: JacobGRocks
Since I own one, i can tell you this: they are connected to the same system. I also have recived invites to 360 and PC (GfWL) games while playing xbox originals on my original xbox or 360 (mainly Halo 3 and Halo 2 PC).


I own an original xbox too but I just never played on Xbox Live until I got the Xbox 360. I know they're on the same system since both consoles can play with each other over xbox live. But I thought that most Xbox Live features really were hardcoded into the games like Xbox Live Arcade on the original xbox. Didn't you need certain games with the XBLA included on the disc to play XBLA games?

  • 10.04.2009 9:26 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

XBLA wasnt integrated into the Dash, so you had to put in a XBLA disc to play all the games. It uses the dash for many functions relating to live (ever updated a original xbox game? It sends you to the dash so it updates. Same with other live functions). Xbox 360 games are also sort of hardcoded (it is programmed onto the disc), but using tricks allows devolepers to come out with huge updates (burnout paradise). And didnt halo 2 have its share of major updates as well (1.5, more maps)?

Even though i dont work at MS, it would probably be possible to update it, as modders have come out with huge mods/hacks/patches for Halo 2 (killtrocity), and it could be posibble to do offical xbl patches/upgrades like that.

  • 10.04.2009 9:39 AM PDT

T3AM Stat-gb

damn, i always loved that game. and now that they are shutting it down...i wont be able to relive the old days.

  • 10.04.2009 12:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: JacobGRocks
XBLA wasnt integrated into the Dash, so you had to put in a XBLA disc to play all the games. It uses the dash for many functions relating to live (ever updated a original xbox game? It sends you to the dash so it updates. Same with other live functions). Xbox 360 games are also sort of hardcoded (it is programmed onto the disc), but using tricks allows devolepers to come out with huge updates (burnout paradise). And didnt halo 2 have its share of major updates as well (1.5, more maps)?

Even though i dont work at MS, it would probably be possible to update it, as modders have come out with huge mods/hacks/patches for Halo 2 (killtrocity), and it could be posibble to do offical xbl patches/upgrades like that.


Actually, now that you mentioned updates, I recall when updating original xbox games on the 360, it still takes me to the original xbox dashboard which means that the original xbox dashboard is hardcoded into the games. I'm pretty sure that the original xbox dashboard is not stored on the xbox 360 in anyway.

  • 10.04.2009 2:54 PM PDT