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Subject: A suggestion to those who think ODST`s overpriced-Saving YOU money
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I AGREE THAT ODST IS WORTH $60! READ THE OP! Here`s why:
20 dollars for Campaign
10 dollars for Firefight
10 for 3 new maps
20 for Mythic and Legendary maps

ODST`s content is optimized for those who don`t have all of Halo 3`s DLC. If you feel like ODST is overpriced, but still want the 3 new maps or the new Campaign, then I`ve made this thread to save YOU some money. Hey, even people who think the price is fair can save some money just by trading in their Halo 3 disc. Do this if you could live without playing Halo 3`s Campaign.



You know, if you feel that ODST is overpriced, why not trade in your Halo 3 disc? You get $20 back. See, then that takes out the cost of the Mythic and Legendary Map Packs. Now you're essentially paying $40 for the game.

$20 for Campaign
$10 for Firefight
$10 for 3 brank spankin' new maps

You get compensated for the Map Packs you bought.

OMG ITZ MAGIC!

EDIT: CONCERNING WHY I THINK ODST IS WORTH $60

If you already purchased the Mythic and Legendary maps, then the new Campaign, the new Firefight mode and the 3 new maps are worth $40, in my honest opinion. We have that established? Good.

Now, keep in mind Halo 3: ODST is being sold to more than just people who have Xbox LIVE, OR do not have all of Halo 3's DLC. That is another factor that comes in wih the pricing of ODST. People who don't have the Legendary and Mythic maps must pay for that content. Otherwise, Microsoft is giving away those maps "for free" to that audience, which results in less money coming to them. As a business (and especially, considering its M$), I don't think they'd be too happy to sell their items underpriced. You have to keep in mind that people who don't have Legendary and Mythic will purchase ODST too. Maybe ODST will bring in newer people? The people over at Microsoft believe that this audience (those who don't have these maps, don't have Xbox LIVE, or potential new people that might pick up this game) believe that this audience is large anough to warrant ODST's price.

So, I included Legendary and Mythic into the final price because of this audience that Microsoft is trying to appeal to. Otherwise, ODST could have been priced lower.

Oh, and realize that you don't have to do trade in your disc. This doesn't apply to everyone (as there are people who like the Campaign); you're free to do anything you want. If you don't like the Campaign, you don't play it so much, or you can live without it, then this suggestion is nice for you. Why would someone keep something that they're not going to use often? If you like your Multiplayer much better than Campaign, then giving up Halo 3's original campaign sounds like a good deal to me.

My post was to come off as a suggestion. It wasn't made to be a "solution", as it seems that some people look at it as.

[Edited on 08.15.2009 7:52 AM PDT]

  • 08.14.2009 7:58 AM PDT
Subject: You feel like you're wasting your money?

Hey guess what!? I play CoD more than Halo, but I'm not an annoying fanboy. I love CoD more, but I like how involved the Halo Community is...

Omg stop b!+ching over the price, its too late, u can't change it.

  • 08.14.2009 8:00 AM PDT
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Posted by: Mr Bloz
Omg stop b!+ching over the price, its too late, u can't change it.

Read the OP. I did not once even complain.

  • 08.14.2009 8:01 AM PDT
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Who cares we can't change it. I'm not spending 60.00$ on a video game.

  • 08.14.2009 8:01 AM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

I dont care having to pay $60, as long as the game works, im happy.

  • 08.14.2009 8:02 AM PDT

Your retarted, if you actually read it he doest complain at all, so shut up you stupid noob

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Hey! You stole my idea! lol

  • 08.14.2009 8:02 AM PDT

The fight has been complete.... now get the cookies!

While we certainly share your enthusiasm for the return, we here at the Bungie.net community are mostly made up of snarky asses and jerks who will ridicule you for making a thread about something revealed months ago. We regret that your innocent intentions will almost certainly be replied with anger and sarcasm, and politely invite you to don your Flame-suit, because you just did the internet equivalent of jumping up the Construct lifts.

He aint complaining, he's actually sayin we are paying less then we should.

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Posted by: Focnr
Who cares we can't change it. I'm not spending 60.00$ on a video game.


I did not complain about the price! I said you get compensation for the Mythic and Legendary Map Packs. This is directed towards the people that think ODST's overpriced. Me? I think it's worth it when you factor the aforementioned map packs.

ODST's content is optimized for those who don't have all of Halo 3's DLC.

  • 08.14.2009 8:04 AM PDT
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Posted by: Honourable Elite
Hey! You stole my idea! lol


lol. I actually went on today to post this, posted it and saw you post, so technically it's not stealing. It's just smart thinking on both of our parts. :P

  • 08.14.2009 8:05 AM PDT
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Posted by: Focnr
Who cares we can't change it. I'm not spending 60.00$ on a video game.


I did not complain about the price! I said you get compensation for the Mythic and Legendary Map Packs. This is directed towards the people that think ODST's overpriced. Me? I think it's worth it when you factor the aforementioned map packs.

ODST's content is optimized for those who don't have all of Halo 3's DLC.

Yeah, I knew I should've held back on spending Microsoft Points on those maps. Ah well, I'll be trading in my Halo 3 disc, so I'll be paying for something I technically don't have.

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Posted by: Honourable Elite
Hey! You stole my idea! lol


lol. I actually went on today to post this, posted it and saw you post, so technically it's not stealing. It's just smart thinking on both of our parts. :P

Great minds think alike.

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Posted by: Focnr
Who cares we can't change it. I'm not spending 60.00$ on a video game.


I did not complain about the price! I said you get compensation for the Mythic and Legendary Map Packs. This is directed towards the people that think ODST's overpriced. Me? I think it's worth it when you factor the aforementioned map packs.

ODST's content is optimized for those who don't have all of Halo 3's DLC.

Yeah, I knew I should've held back on spending Microsoft Points on those maps. Ah well, I'll be trading in my Halo 3 disc, so I'll be paying for something I technically don't have.


Really, only keep you Halo 3 disc if you have the strong urge to play H3`s Campaign. I didn`t really care about H3`s Campaign, and I think ODST`s will be much, much better.

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have you noticed that every videogame is 60 dollars,get over it!

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Posted by: ThEhUrRiCaNe
have you noticed that every videogame is 60 dollars,get over it!



Read the OP! How many people must I tell to read the OP and get it though their thick skulls that I`m not against the price.

  • 08.14.2009 8:09 AM PDT
Subject: You feel like you're wasting your money? READ OP

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Including all the Programming for the Maps and it comes with the Complete Halo 3 Multiplayer Experience.

I think its worth £40 and $60.

  • 08.14.2009 8:11 AM PDT
Subject: You feel like you're wasting your money?
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Posted by: Focnr
Who cares we can't change it. I'm not spending 60.00$ on a video game.


I did not complain about the price! I said you get compensation for the Mythic and Legendary Map Packs. This is directed towards the people that think ODST's overpriced. Me? I think it's worth it when you factor the aforementioned map packs.

ODST's content is optimized for those who don't have all of Halo 3's DLC.

Yeah, I knew I should've held back on spending Microsoft Points on those maps. Ah well, I'll be trading in my Halo 3 disc, so I'll be paying for something I technically don't have.


Really, only keep you Halo 3 disc if you have the strong urge to play H3`s Campaign. I didn`t really care about H3`s Campaign, and I think ODST`s will be much, much better.

Neither do I really, I think ODST's will be better by a long shot, so it won't be any loss for me if I traded it in.
Posted by: ThEhUrRiCaNe
have you noticed that every videogame is 60 dollars,get over it!

Could you at least make an effort to read the OP next time?

  • 08.14.2009 8:13 AM PDT
Subject: You feel like you're wasting your money? READ OP
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Posted by: ODST Mickey
Including all the Programming for the Maps and it comes with the Complete Halo 3 Multiplayer Experience.

I think its worth £40 and $60.


Here is what makes me think that ODST is worth its price:

$20 for Campain
$10 for Firefight
$10 for new maps
$10 for Legendary Maps
$10 for Mythic Maps

I feel that if you think you ODST is overpriced, then return Halo 3 and get compensated for Legendary and Mythic maps. I was making a suggestion for those people. Turns out I get misunderstood and flamed by the very same kind of people I support.

Fail.

[Edited on 08.14.2009 8:15 AM PDT]

  • 08.14.2009 8:15 AM PDT

Hey Guys.

I am Founder of the group FireFight Custom Games
Another Great Group is New Mombasa Join them both :P

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I did say I think its worth £40/$60.

Please read it next time....
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Posted by: ODST Mickey
Including all the Programming for the Maps and it comes with the Complete Halo 3 Multiplayer Experience.

I think its worth £40 and $60.


Here is what makes me think that ODST is worth its price:

$20 for Campain
$10 for Firefight
$10 for new maps
$10 for Legendary Maps
$10 for Mythic Maps

I feel that if you think you ODST is overpriced, then return Halo 3 and get compensated for Legendary and Mythic maps. I was making a suggestion for those people. Turns out I get misunderstood and flamed by the very same kind of people I support.

Fail.

  • 08.14.2009 8:17 AM PDT
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Almost all games are sold at $60.00 right off the bat, thats the way its been for the longest time, its definitly not going to change to be lower for any halo title considering the fan base and the market for them. Get used to it!

  • 08.14.2009 8:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: ODST Mickey
I did say I think its worth £40/$60.

Please read it next time....
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Posted by: ODST Mickey
Including all the Programming for the Maps and it comes with the Complete Halo 3 Multiplayer Experience.

I think its worth £40 and $60.


Here is what makes me think that ODST is worth its price:

$20 for Campain
$10 for Firefight
$10 for new maps
$10 for Legendary Maps
$10 for Mythic Maps

I feel that if you think you ODST is overpriced, then return Halo 3 and get compensated for Legendary and Mythic maps. I was making a suggestion for those people. Turns out I get misunderstood and flamed by the very same kind of people I support.

Fail.


I completely understood your post. I wasn`t argueing with you. I was adding a point.

[Edited on 08.14.2009 8:19 AM PDT]

  • 08.14.2009 8:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: D4RK WAT3R
Almost all games are sold at $60.00 right off the bat, thats the way its been for the longest time, its definitly not going to change to be lower for any halo title considering the fan base and the market for them. Get used to it!



Read the OP. Really.

  • 08.14.2009 8:19 AM PDT

Hey Guys.

I am Founder of the group FireFight Custom Games
Another Great Group is New Mombasa Join them both :P

My Real GamerTag is XbL ShutDown.

Add points without quoting my posts next time.
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Posted by: ODST Mickey
I did say I think its worth £40/$60.

Please read it next time....
Posted by: Josh 22 T
Posted by: ODST Mickey
Including all the Programming for the Maps and it comes with the Complete Halo 3 Multiplayer Experience.

I think its worth £40 and $60.


Here is what makes me think that ODST is worth its price:

$20 for Campain
$10 for Firefight
$10 for new maps
$10 for Legendary Maps
$10 for Mythic Maps

I feel that if you think you ODST is overpriced, then return Halo 3 and get compensated for Legendary and Mythic maps. I was making a suggestion for those people. Turns out I get misunderstood and flamed by the very same kind of people I support.

Fail.


I completely understood your post. I wasn`t argueing with you. I was adding a point.

  • 08.14.2009 8:20 AM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

the maps are already free.....

The campaign alone makes ODST worth $60. everything else is simply bonus material that makes the game more attractive

just an FYI it isn't a 5 hour campaign any more. as they said 1 hour per mission and about half an hour between each mission to reach the different way points(Joe Staten said this in the play through of the first mission, it's why he used that teleport 'cheat')

**also i did not include the time it would take to get the audio logs etc as this is extra content not critical to the story. this is a bare minimum calculation**

Now lets do some fairly simple math.

-There are 6 missions if the leaked achievements are to be believed.
-That means 6 one hour missions.
-6 x 1 = 6
-That means there is 6 hours in missions alone. Lets store that number away in our head and -move to the next part of our game length calculations.


-if there are 6 missions that means you need to travel to all 6, Correct? that means there are 6 times you need to travel to a new location, (travel to point one, travel to point 2, travel to point 3, travel, to point 4, travel to point 5, and travel to point 6. That's Six travel times)
-now we were told in the mission walk through by Jo Staten that it's about half an hour to walk to a target point when he used his teleport cheat.
-6Travel times of half an hour each
-6 x 0.5 = 3
-this means that that there is about 3 hours of just running to your objectives alone.
-now to move to the final part of our calculations here


-taking that first number we got from the beginning of ODST's development and the leaked achievements and adding them to the travel time result we get:
-6 hours of missions plus the 3 hours of travel time
-6 + 3 = 9
-This means there is about 9 hours of campaign.

Also note this calculation does not include the "final mission" Bungie has alluded to as it has not been directly confirmed to my knowledge.


This number of 9 hours of campaign is the equivalent of an average FULL game these days.
this with alone by game marketing standards warrants a $60 price tag.

The things people argue that you need for a full price game, often are not included in a campaign oriented game.

A full price title does not need:
-Match Making
-Multiplayer of any form(such as co-op/ split screen)
-a second game mode
Please note that with these features included in a large title often increases the price of the game by $10

A full game must include
-A single player campaign totalling a minimum of 6 hour average playtime OR a fully Multiplayer game(unknown standard)
-1000GS (Xbox 360)


Now ODST fits the Retail Requirements of a full game:
-9+hour campaign(larger than 6 hours)
-1000 independent GS(not related to Halo 3 GS in any way there is 750 GS also available on the Halo 3 multiplayer)
This here in the marketing world Labels ODST as a Full Retail game and is being Priced at $60 like any other full retail game.


As well ODST has:
-A second game mode
-Multiplayer Co-op
Please note that with these features included in a large title often increases the price of the game by $10. In ODST it does not.


So in the end is ODST worth $60?
-By marketing standards YES
-By your standards? Read the above and answer your self reasonably and truthfully. Then ask if it is just your disappointment in it now fitting the above requirements and hence being more expensive than you planned, or are you truly being ripped off? again answer yourself tuthfully.

  • 08.14.2009 8:20 AM PDT

You forgot about another $30 for the other map packs.

  • 08.14.2009 8:22 AM PDT

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