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Subject: OMG. Starry Night commercial is key!
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Posted by: Tucker 051
Posted by: Geneticz
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perhaps you should look up time travel theories.. parodoxs and so forth.. NOT a flame just some advice


I could say the exact same thing about your thread my friend. I have THEORY here and nothing else. That doesn't require people to automatically assume it's wrong just because they don't like or think it's possible as your thread says. I have a base for this theory, so it's not some random thought.


But you are wrong. If you actually read other people's comments, you would've seen that they all proved you wrong on so many levels. Maybe you should familiarise yourself with Halo canon and the timeline before you start making retarded theories.

And if your are 15 or older, I will be very suprised.



Please state how i am wrong? All i have read was people dont like the idea of time travel.

  • 08.14.2009 4:40 PM PDT

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So, even though Joe Staten himself has said that time travel is absurd, and even though there is a perfectly normal, reasonable, obvious explanation for everything that happens in the Starry Night trailer, you still maintain that there is some hidden, deep meaning behind it all, pertaining to a game which hadn't even been invented until after the trailer was created...

You need some fresh air, mate.

[Edited on 08.14.2009 4:42 PM PDT]

  • 08.14.2009 4:41 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

Posted by: flamedude
Starry Night is for Halo 3. Not Reach.

Time travel has been ruled out.

The end of Halo 3 shows half a frigate drifting towards a forerunner planet.

The Reach trailer shows an entire frigate cut in half over a human world Reach.

The boy and girl in the Starry Night video are not confirmed as young Spartans.

The Starry Night trailer is on Earth.

The children are naiive and optimistic, they want to meet aliens, unaware that these very same aliens will try and destroy humanity and will bring the entire species to its knees.


See, Flamedude basically ruled out your theory instantly.

  • 08.14.2009 4:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: Deathtrap462
Possibly. I hate how everyone says that time travel isn't a possibility, yet we know next to nothing about the game.


i see your point but bungie said no time travel

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Posted by: porkstein
So, even though Joe Staten himself has said that time travel is absurd, and even though there is a perfectly normal, reasonable, obvious explanation for everything that happens in the Starry Night trailer, you still maintain that there is some hidden, deep meaning behind it all pertaining to a game, the idea of which hadn't been thought up until after the trailer was created...

You need some fresh air, mate.



Are you serious? The beginning of CE, Cortana talks about Reach! Do you actually think this Story is made up as they go along? This story and game has been in the works for a long time! Reach is the starting point. And how is there a perfect reasonable explanation for the start trailer? There are multiple foreshadowing parts in the trailer, which i state in my post.

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Posted by: Tucker 051
Posted by: flamedude
Starry Night is for Halo 3. Not Reach.

Time travel has been ruled out.

The end of Halo 3 shows half a frigate drifting towards a forerunner planet.

The Reach trailer shows an entire frigate cut in half over a human world Reach.

The boy and girl in the Starry Night video are not confirmed as young Spartans.

The Starry Night trailer is on Earth.

The children are naiive and optimistic, they want to meet aliens, unaware that these very same aliens will try and destroy humanity and will bring the entire species to its knees.


See, Flamedude basically ruled out your theory instantly.


How does he know Starry night takes place on earth? When did i say the children were spartans?

  • 08.14.2009 4:48 PM PDT

Posted by: Geneticz
Posted by: porkstein
So, even though Joe Staten himself has said that time travel is absurd, and even though there is a perfectly normal, reasonable, obvious explanation for everything that happens in the Starry Night trailer, you still maintain that there is some hidden, deep meaning behind it all pertaining to a game, the idea of which hadn't been thought up until after the trailer was created...

You need some fresh air, mate.



Are you serious? The beginning of CE, Cortana talks about Reach! Do you actually think this Story is made up as they go along? This story and game has been in the works for a long time! Reach is the starting point. And how is there a perfect reasonable explanation for the start trailer? There are multiple foreshadowing parts in the trailer, which i state in my post.

Halo: The Fall of Reach was written during and came out before the first Halo game. They are indeed making the story up as they go.

  • 08.14.2009 4:50 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

Posted by: Geneticz
Posted by: Tucker 051
Posted by: flamedude
Starry Night is for Halo 3. Not Reach.

Time travel has been ruled out.

The end of Halo 3 shows half a frigate drifting towards a forerunner planet.

The Reach trailer shows an entire frigate cut in half over a human world Reach.

The boy and girl in the Starry Night video are not confirmed as young Spartans.

The Starry Night trailer is on Earth.

The children are naiive and optimistic, they want to meet aliens, unaware that these very same aliens will try and destroy humanity and will bring the entire species to its knees.


See, Flamedude basically ruled out your theory instantly.


How does he know Starry night takes place on earth? When did i say the children were spartans?


I know that the part with MC fighting is definitely on Earth.

Doesn't matter if the kids are Spartans or not, you're still wrong.

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I know that the part with MC fighting is definitely on Earth.

Doesn't matter if the kids are Spartans or not, you're still wrong.[/quote]


Actually it makes a big difference if they are spartans my friend. I can't wait until this game comes out and you will remember this post and how it was partially, if not all truthful!

  • 08.14.2009 4:55 PM PDT

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Okay, reasonable explanation:

Two children, probably young Spartans, are lying in a field, wondering about the existence of alien races. One asks the other if he thinks they'll ever meet these 'aliens'.

Chief wakes up from what we now realise to be either a memory or a dream. There is a slight transition as this happens, where the two scenes merge.

Chief says 'not yet'. That's just the Chief being his usual badass self. He then gets up and fights some Brutes and what-not. End of trailer.

[Edited on 08.14.2009 4:57 PM PDT]

  • 08.14.2009 4:56 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

Posted by: Geneticz
Actually it makes a big difference if they are spartans my friend. I can't wait until this game comes out and you will remember this post and how it was partially, if not all truthful!


I can't wait until this game comes out and you see that you're completely wrong and that the Halo 3 legendary ending has nothing to do with Reach. If that planet was Reach from the past, Cortana would've gotten a signal out to the UNSC in seconds.

  • 08.14.2009 4:57 PM PDT

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OP: Chill out. Yes, people are attacking your theory, and yes, a few of them are immature, but stooping to their level just makes you look bad and makes people disregard your idea as stupid, even if they were inclined to agree with it before they saw the flame war.

People flaming the OP: His theory IS a bit unlikely, but flaming doesn't accomplish anything but make him scream "I'M RIGHT AND YOU'RE WRONG!!!" louder. Let it go.

People debating intelligently with the OP: Good job. *Thumbs up* =P

As for the actual theory, it seems a bit unlikely. Despite the fact that Joe Statan dislikes time travel, I don't think the Forerunners had that kind of technology, or if so, they never showed it before and adding it now would seem like a bit of an asspull. My other reason for thinking it's not Reach is that the world at the end of the Legendary ending looks like a Forerunner world, and NOT like Reach as portrayed in the trailer. I won't rule out time travel entirely, but it seems a bit unlikely.

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Posted by: porkstein
Okay, reasonable explanation:

Two children, probably young Spartans, are lying in a field, wondering about the existence of alien races. One asks the other if he thinks they'll ever meet these 'aliens'.

Chief wakes up from what we now realise to be either a memory or a dream. There is a slight transition as this happens, where the two scenes merge.

Chief says 'not yet'. That's just the Chief being his usual badass self. He then gets up and fights some Brutes and what-not. End of trailer.



Explain the significance of the helmet being portrayed in 2 complete different time frames then? In the tall grass and then MC picks it up later. Yeah, and im sure Bungie would want just a simple 123 trailer with no other possible meanings right?

  • 08.14.2009 5:01 PM PDT

My honor student can beat up your honor student.

Time Travel has been ruled out.

If you're trying to be sarcastic or funny, you're doing neither. You know the facts. You know it is based off of the book "The Fall of Reach" not whatever popped into your head. If Bungie pulls a time travel stunt, it wouldn't be in a game based off a novel with a set-in-stone storyline and events.

/thread

  • 08.14.2009 5:03 PM PDT

Posted by: Geneticz
Posted by: porkstein
Okay, reasonable explanation:

Two children, probably young Spartans, are lying in a field, wondering about the existence of alien races. One asks the other if he thinks they'll ever meet these 'aliens'.

Chief wakes up from what we now realise to be either a memory or a dream. There is a slight transition as this happens, where the two scenes merge.

Chief says 'not yet'. That's just the Chief being his usual badass self. He then gets up and fights some Brutes and what-not. End of trailer.



Explain the significance of the helmet being portrayed in 2 complete different time frames then? In the tall grass and then MC picks it up later. Yeah, and im sure Bungie would want just a simple 123 trailer with no other possible meanings right?

Bungie probably didn't commission it, Microsoft probably did. Have you ever blacked out or been knocked out? You are in a dream-like state, which is what the Chief was in. He was just hallucinating but coming back to normal

  • 08.14.2009 5:04 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

Posted by: Geneticz
Posted by: porkstein
Okay, reasonable explanation:

Two children, probably young Spartans, are lying in a field, wondering about the existence of alien races. One asks the other if he thinks they'll ever meet these 'aliens'.

Chief wakes up from what we now realise to be either a memory or a dream. There is a slight transition as this happens, where the two scenes merge.

Chief says 'not yet'. That's just the Chief being his usual badass self. He then gets up and fights some Brutes and what-not. End of trailer.



Explain the significance of the helmet being portrayed in 2 complete different time frames then? In the tall grass and then MC picks it up later. Yeah, and im sure Bungie would want just a simple 123 trailer with no other possible meanings right?


It's just meant to be a transitioning shot. It's just trying to portray a calm scene to destructive war and nothing more.

And btw, did you even bother looking at my previous post?

[Edited on 08.14.2009 5:04 PM PDT]

  • 08.14.2009 5:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: Geneticz
Posted by: porkstein
Okay, reasonable explanation:

Two children, probably young Spartans, are lying in a field, wondering about the existence of alien races. One asks the other if he thinks they'll ever meet these 'aliens'.

Chief wakes up from what we now realise to be either a memory or a dream. There is a slight transition as this happens, where the two scenes merge.

Chief says 'not yet'. That's just the Chief being his usual badass self. He then gets up and fights some Brutes and what-not. End of trailer.



Explain the significance of the helmet being portrayed in 2 complete different time frames then? In the tall grass and then MC picks it up later. Yeah, and im sure Bungie would want just a simple 123 trailer with no other possible meanings right?


They want a trailer with one meaning! It's just a trailer. The helmet was there to illustrate that Chief was waking up from a dream of some sort. We see, through the Chief's eyes, the dream dissolve into reality; it is the helmet that helps us to realise this.

[Edited on 08.14.2009 5:07 PM PDT]

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Posted by: Tucker 051
Posted by: Geneticz
Posted by: porkstein
Okay, reasonable explanation:

Two children, probably young Spartans, are lying in a field, wondering about the existence of alien races. One asks the other if he thinks they'll ever meet these 'aliens'.

Chief wakes up from what we now realise to be either a memory or a dream. There is a slight transition as this happens, where the two scenes merge.

Chief says 'not yet'. That's just the Chief being his usual badass self. He then gets up and fights some Brutes and what-not. End of trailer.



Explain the significance of the helmet being portrayed in 2 complete different time frames then? In the tall grass and then MC picks it up later. Yeah, and im sure Bungie would want just a simple 123 trailer with no other possible meanings right?


It's just meant to be a transitioning shot. It's just trying to portray a calm scene to destructive war and nothing more.

And btw, did you even bother looking at my previous post?



How do you know it's just that? Just because you say it is and nothing more? haha...i can't believe people like you. Please get off your high chair kid, people have other opinions different then yours.

  • 08.14.2009 5:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: Geneticz
People have other opinions different then yours.


Oh, I actually have two witty comebacks! Which to choose, which to choose...

Hell, I'll do 'em both.

1. Actually, it's just you who has an opinion different to ours.

2. And you know what, people have other opinions different to yours too!

What is it with people so quick to dole out the insults who can't take criticism themselves?

[Edited on 08.14.2009 5:13 PM PDT]

  • 08.14.2009 5:10 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

Posted by: Geneticz
Posted by: Tucker 051
Posted by: Geneticz
Posted by: porkstein
Okay, reasonable explanation:

Two children, probably young Spartans, are lying in a field, wondering about the existence of alien races. One asks the other if he thinks they'll ever meet these 'aliens'.

Chief wakes up from what we now realise to be either a memory or a dream. There is a slight transition as this happens, where the two scenes merge.

Chief says 'not yet'. That's just the Chief being his usual badass self. He then gets up and fights some Brutes and what-not. End of trailer.



Explain the significance of the helmet being portrayed in 2 complete different time frames then? In the tall grass and then MC picks it up later. Yeah, and im sure Bungie would want just a simple 123 trailer with no other possible meanings right?


It's just meant to be a transitioning shot. It's just trying to portray a calm scene to destructive war and nothing more.

And btw, did you even bother looking at my previous post?



How do you know it's just that? Just because you say it is and nothing more? haha...i can't believe people like you. Please get off your high chair kid, people have other opinions different then yours.


So you didn't look at my previous post clearly giving a reason why you're wrong? ok then

Here it is jus for you:
If that planet from the Halo 3 legendary ending was Reach from the past, Cortana would've gotten a signal out to the UNSC in seconds.

[Edited on 08.14.2009 5:13 PM PDT]

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Posted by: porkstein
Posted by: Geneticz
People have other opinions different then yours.


Oh, I actually have two witty comebacks! Which to choose, which to choose...

Hell, I'll do 'em both.

1. Actually, it's just you who has an opinion different to ours.

2. And you know what, people have other opinions different to yours too!




What is it with people so quick to dole out the insults that can't take criticism themselves?



lol i'm pretty sure the flamers such as yourself your quick first with the insults, just because you don't like what i have to say. Now if you will excuse me from this thread everyone, i need to attend to other business.

  • 08.14.2009 5:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: Geneticz
Posted by: Tucker 051
Posted by: Geneticz
Posted by: porkstein
Okay, reasonable explanation:

Two children, probably young Spartans, are lying in a field, wondering about the existence of alien races. One asks the other if he thinks they'll ever meet these 'aliens'.

Chief wakes up from what we now realise to be either a memory or a dream. There is a slight transition as this happens, where the two scenes merge.

Chief says 'not yet'. That's just the Chief being his usual badass self. He then gets up and fights some Brutes and what-not. End of trailer.



Explain the significance of the helmet being portrayed in 2 complete different time frames then? In the tall grass and then MC picks it up later. Yeah, and im sure Bungie would want just a simple 123 trailer with no other possible meanings right?


It's just meant to be a transitioning shot. It's just trying to portray a calm scene to destructive war and nothing more.

And btw, did you even bother looking at my previous post?



How do you know it's just that? Just because you say it is and nothing more? haha...i can't believe people like you. Please get off your high chair kid, people have other opinions different then yours.


Define hypocrite.

The thing is we've all expressed our opinions and you have narrow-mindedly dismissed them completely. The video is quite clear to me but it is all a matter of interpretation, there is a lot of subjectivity there.

For me it is clear that the video is meant to show the dream of the Master Chief when he is temporarily stunned during a large battle (and he is dreaming of being a kid), hence why his helmet is off, he is lying on the ground and there is a over-turned hog just behind him and you know.... a huge battle.

The significance of the helmet being portrayed in two settings is to show him waking up. You ever experience the sensation of being half-awake and half-asleep still dreaming? They merge. It's a very nice transition shot. Snapping from being a kid to a Spartan would be too jarring.

This thread is frustrating.

[Edited on 08.14.2009 5:16 PM PDT]

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Posted by: Tucker 051
Posted by: Geneticz
Posted by: Tucker 051
Posted by: Geneticz
Posted by: porkstein
Okay, reasonable explanation:

Two children, probably young Spartans, are lying in a field, wondering about the existence of alien races. One asks the other if he thinks they'll ever meet these 'aliens'.

Chief wakes up from what we now realise to be either a memory or a dream. There is a slight transition as this happens, where the two scenes merge.

Chief says 'not yet'. That's just the Chief being his usual badass self. He then gets up and fights some Brutes and what-not. End of trailer.



Explain the significance of the helmet being portrayed in 2 complete different time frames then? In the tall grass and then MC picks it up later. Yeah, and im sure Bungie would want just a simple 123 trailer with no other possible meanings right?


It's just meant to be a transitioning shot. It's just trying to portray a calm scene to destructive war and nothing more.

And btw, did you even bother looking at my previous post?



How do you know it's just that? Just because you say it is and nothing more? haha...i can't believe people like you. Please get off your high chair kid, people have other opinions different then yours.


So you didn't look at my previous post clearly giving a reason why you're wrong? ok then

Here it is jus for you:
If that planet from the Halo 3 legendary ending was Reach from the past, Cortana would've gotten a signal out to the UNSC in seconds.



and that is your theory. maybe they were floating in space for a long time before reaching contact.

  • 08.14.2009 5:16 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

Now he's leaving, what an idiot. You pump him full of imformation that proves his theory wrong and he doesn't even read it and completely ignores it.

  • 08.14.2009 5:17 PM PDT