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Subject: Halo: Reach - Not a Prequel?
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Posted by: Pocket Syndrome
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The marines are Johnson and another marine.

The connection is that the kid is most probably the Chief. The chief has been temporarily knocked out (and his helmet has been knocked off), and his mind is conjuring up old memories.


Ok then, but that is not the point of the post. The thing is that waves/particals dont travel distances in an INSTANT. Additionally, the presence of staisis pods seem to indicate that it takes long periods of time to get to places, even with the human version of the space slip. This means Reach could NOT have communicated with Earth.


first of all this is fictional, second if you even took the time to read the books then the have slipspace partical launchers there was 3 one on Earth, one on Onyx, and one on......ready.....REACH. now pay attention to these words. THEY RIP A HOLE IN SPACE TO CREATE SLIPSPACE.........THEN........THEY CAN TRAVEL MASS DISTANCES IN LIKE SECONDS TO MINUTES BECAUSE ITS A SMALL SPHERE BUT A SHIP WOULD TAKE A COUPLE DAYS TO REACH ANOTHER PLANET BECAUSE ITS BIGGER. BUT THE COVIES COULD DO IT INSTANTLY BECAUSE THEY ARE TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED!!!!!!! SO THIS IS A PREQUEL!

(i'm not yelling but you really need to catch up on your halo info.)

  • 08.15.2009 6:25 PM PDT

You should read the books or atleast some kind of summary.

  • 08.15.2009 6:27 PM PDT

Spartans tonight we die in hell.

Humans could communicate with other planets because they had an adopted tier 3. Meaning they have mass drivers slipspace navigation holocrystal storage semi-sentient AI and asynchronous induction weapons. It required blood sacrifice memory transfer and flash cloning. Does that answer you question Pocket Syndrome

  • 08.15.2009 9:53 PM PDT
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You thought you lagged, it took jesus three days to respawn, and even then he commit suicide

Posted by: Pocket Syndrome
Posted by: flamedude
The marines are Johnson and another marine.

The connection is that the kid is most probably the Chief. The chief has been temporarily knocked out (and his helmet has been knocked off), and his mind is conjuring up old memories.


Ok then, but that is not the point of the post. The thing is that waves/particals dont travel distances in an INSTANT. Additionally, the presence of staisis pods seem to indicate that it takes long periods of time to get to places, even with the human version of the space slip. This means Reach could NOT have communicated with Earth.


Posted by: Flash2k7
We know Bungie is developing a new game after Halo:Reach.


I have hear of no such thing. In fact Bungie won't have full rights over the Halo series soon.

aaaaaahhhhhhhh... but in halo two when the covies attacked earth one of the marines said " this fleet is half the size that attacked reach!" which must mean thatthey did so sorry 4 bursting youre bubbles

  • 08.16.2009 6:31 AM PDT

It's a prequel, alright?

  • 08.16.2009 7:41 AM PDT

I am a Halo 3 Failure.

Posted by: Pocket Syndrome
Posted by: MuffinMan116
Why can't anyone just accept that its going to be a prequel?

But it just seems odd for Bungie to drop Chief like this.

You mean like what they're doing in ODST.

[Edited on 08.16.2009 7:50 AM PDT]

  • 08.16.2009 7:50 AM PDT
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Posted by: Pocket Syndrome
First, I would like to welcome you to my thread. If your purpose is to rant and yell without reading my theory first, please leave now. That being said, I am not very well educated in the Halo timeline, so please correct me if I am wrong.

To begin with, how is space travel possible? It would have to be some form of "space jump," where space ships move vast distances INSTANTLY. How do we receive information? Through various forms of wave/partical transmitions that take take TIME to travel distances, however fast that might be. If we accept these two ideas as fact, I can continue.

Now, I would like to direct your attention to the Stary Night Trailer, in which I first came up with this idea. In this commercial, a child mentions "Do you think we will ever meet them?", meaning aliens (later to be known as the Covenant). The Chief then appears in what seems to be the same field saying, "Not yet." The sudden cut might just be an attempt to add a felling of excitment, OR could be hinting towards a connection between the chield and Chief.

A connection that could only logicaly be made in time. Could the Chief somehow know this child? Or even BE this child?

Going back to the children in Stary Night. They are looking at distant stars/plants. What they see are in fact NOT the stars/planets in their current state, but instead how they looked millions of years ago. This is because light takes TIME to travel distances, and while that light travels, the star/planet is changing.

Now, during the colonization of other planets, how did the humans on those other planets communicate with Earth? Did they communicate with Earth? Because of the distance between these colonize and Earth, it would take MILLIONS of years in order for any signals to reach Earth. That means that any events on these planets could NOT be known on Earth for a LONG period of time after they occured. An easy way to mix up dates if other planets distance from you is constantly changing (orbit around star, the star's movment, and the galaxies movment).

Moving toward the end scene of Halo 3, Chief is seen drifting toward a planet, that some speculate to infact be Reach. However, to get their, the ship would have had to almost INSTANTLY travel HUGE amounts of space. I am not clear on when/if humans developed this kind of technology, but I assume it was after the Covenant. Remeber, they attacked us.

If humans did not ever develop this kind of technology, that leaves two possibilites. One is that they got this technology form Covenant allies. The second is that the forrunner ring somehow sent the Dawn through a SPACE JUMP.

Additionlly, if humans had not developed this technology before the Covenant, how would they know what was going on on their colonize. The fact is they wouldnt. Since at the end of Halo 3, Chief got in what looked like a "staisis pod," I am forced to conclude that humans did not have space jump technology and the forrunner ring forced the Down through a space jump.

Put together the pieces. Covenant can travel infinite distances instantly. Humans have to rely on "physical" movment, and thus can not communicate over long distances. The forrunners MUST have had access to space jump technology in order to build all the rings in the first place.

Could Chief in fact be heading toward Reach? Could the battle for Reach be, in fact, about to BEGIN. Could the battle for Reach be a microcosm of the battle for Earth? Post your thoughts.


Reach was attacked before the event in the game halo combat evolved. If you read the book (it's called "the fall of reach") it explains how the spartans die. there is also a book about the events from halo 1 (it's called "the flood" and it show what other people did as well as the cheif) And a book about how he got back to earth (it 's called "first strike") and how he slowed down an attack on earth.

  • 08.16.2009 11:11 AM PDT

Snakie Purple.

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Halo: Reach is a prequel.

Bungie/Microsoft
In Halo: Reach, the blockbuster prequel to the Halo trilogy, experience the events that transpired on the planet Reach. Created by acclaimed developer Bungie, Halo: Reach will be available in the fall of 2010 exclusively on Xbox 360. As a bonus for Halo fans, Halo 3: ODST will be the key to entry for the Halo: Reach multiplayer beta coming to Xbox LIVE.


Now. Let this thread die.

  • 08.16.2009 11:24 AM PDT
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Halo Reach is about how the war started between the covevent and the humans started. It will have Sgt. Johnson as a playable character. If u look at the ending of Halo 3, Chief is sprialing towards Reach. It doesnt mean thats he is in the game!!!!!!! SO QUIET ABOUT MASTER CHIEF IN HALO REACH!!!!!!!


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  • 08.16.2009 11:37 AM PDT

"if i have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants" Isaac Newton

i am terribly sorry in advance for sounding like a -blam!-... *achem* if our dear OP here had read any of the books, or even played this video game, he would know that the humans had developed (before the Covenant) a Shaw-Fujikawa Translite Engine, which enabled them to travel vast distances in space in short periods of time by physically tearing a black hole in space. The covenant used the exact same method! Their technology however is far more advanced allowing their ships to move faster and make pin point "jumps" through space.

Now in one Paragraph i have almost ruined your entire idea. Stop me now cause i am doing it again.

Now if you would be kind enough to look at the poster for Halo: Reach, you will see the entire blue team there. In order: Sam, Kelly, John (MC), Fred and Linda. If what you are saying is true.. technically you are saying there should be two Johns. I only see one. Also in the trailer, there would be a Frigate coming out of a wormhole and floating towards Reach. Also in the Legendary ending of Halo 3 there would be multiple Ships around the Master Chief.

So, in just about 4 paragraphs I single handedly (with a little help from the books and google to spell Shaw-Fujikawa Translite Enginge :P) Proved not just you but everyone who had this idea wrong.
~adoptedflame~

  • 08.16.2009 11:37 AM PDT

Posted by: like2beleet
Halo Reach is about how the war started between the covevent and the humans started. It will have Sgt. Johnson as a playable character. If u look at the ending of Halo 3, Chief is sprialing towards Reach. It doesnt mean thats he is in the game!!!!!!! SO QUIET ABOUT MASTER CHIEF IN HALO REACH!!!!!!!
Actually, I think your referring to contact harvest...Harvest was where the covenant discovered humanity and started the war there. Reach is the planet protecting Earth from the covenant onslaught. And I believe master chief was on Reach at that time. The ending to halo 3 was most likely just a shield world. Or at-least I think.

  • 08.16.2009 11:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: like2beleet
Halo Reach is about how the war started between the covevent and the humans started. It will have Sgt. Johnson as a playable character. If u look at the ending of Halo 3, Chief is sprialing towards Reach. It doesnt mean thats he is in the game!!!!!!! SO QUIET ABOUT MASTER CHIEF IN HALO REACH!!!!!!!

No...The firs battle took place on harvest Halo: reach take place a few weeks before Halo: CE.

But you've never played anything but halo 3 Multiplayer, so i guess you would not get that.

  • 08.16.2009 11:53 AM PDT

Posted by: adoptedflame
i am terribly sorry in advance for sounding like a -blam!-... *achem* if our dear OP here had read any of the books, or even played this video game, he would know that the humans had developed (before the Covenant) a Shaw-Fujikawa Translite Engine, which enabled them to travel vast distances in space in short periods of time by physically tearing a black hole in space. The covenant used the exact same method! Their technology however is far more advanced allowing their ships to move faster and make pin point "jumps" through space.

Now in one Paragraph i have almost ruined your entire idea. Stop me now cause i am doing it again.

Now if you would be kind enough to look at the poster for Halo: Reach, you will see the entire blue team there. In order: Sam, Kelly, John (MC), Fred and Linda. If what you are saying is true.. technically you are saying there should be two Johns. I only see one. Also in the trailer, there would be a Frigate coming out of a wormhole and floating towards Reach. Also in the Legendary ending of Halo 3 there would be multiple Ships around the Master Chief.

So, in just about 4 paragraphs I single handedly (with a little help from the books and google to spell Shaw-Fujikawa Translite Enginge :P) Proved not just you but everyone who had this idea wrong.
~adoptedflame~


Thank you! Sheesh, it's already been confirmed a prequel and it's nice to have ideas but truthfully this person just saved a whole thread.

  • 08.16.2009 11:53 AM PDT

Coffee helps.

But MC did go through wat seemed like a slip-space because the Arbiter wasnt with him in fact half of the ship wasnt with him so it is possible that he is heading to reach but has the fight already taken place? If Reach is where the war started, it would make no sense sending MC into it. Maybe it isnt Reach but some other planet but hey only Bungie knows.

  • 08.16.2009 12:40 PM PDT

Blah.

Halo: Reach is a prequel.

The "not yet" thing is from him talking to marines that said that we might have lost him.

The children in the field are on Reach, one is john, and the other is unknown (i think).

Reach can communicate with Earth.

Nothing happens instantly in the Halo Universe.

Slipspace Communications allow for the outer colonies to communicate with Earth and other Colonies, somewhat instantly.

The UNSC did not develop Slipspace Drive after the Covenant attacked us. We've had it ever since the 2200's.

After just reading the first sentence i could already tell you werent educated in the Haloverse, its called Halopedia, The Books, some of the trailers, and the game. Try to listen/read carefully before posting a theory here that makes no sense to me.

Covenant can not travel distances instantly, it takes time for there ships to travel vast distances just like ours.

Chief is not heading towards Reach, markings on the Legendary Planet do not match Reaches.

The cryotube chief is in is to keep him alive for a long time due to the absense of a working slipspace drive in the aft half of the Forward Unto Dawn.

And like i said before, read the books, look up stuff on halopedia, actually pay attention to the trailers and the games, before you start posting theorys in the forums. It makes you look like an idiot. Spare yourself the humility.

  • 08.16.2009 2:04 PM PDT

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