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This might be random, but I never really liked how Halo 3 had this... cartoony and unrealistic feel to it. I really want Halo: Reach to dig deep and cover itself in some grit. I want the game to feel like I'm watching Saving Private Ryan or Letters from Iwo Jima. Halo 3's environments constantly reminds me I'm in a video game. But I want to see some grittiness and feel like I'm in a war. The Halo Wars Arbiter (before the armor change) looked INSANELY realistic and dark, and that's what I want to see. We're fighting for our SPECIES, why not make it more despairing and sinister? I want emotion from the atmosphere, not only the story and characters.


Well, that's my opinion anyway.

[Edited on 08.14.2009 10:19 PM PDT]

  • 08.14.2009 10:19 PM PDT
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yeah H3 was too colorful

  • 08.14.2009 10:20 PM PDT
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Create your own game

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  • 08.14.2009 10:20 PM PDT

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What's even worse, is that I can never seem to get away from either of them ¬_¬
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"I would have been your daddy, but the dog beat me over the fence."

Yeah, a bit like GoW? I love the way that game made the enviroments, it looked like hummanity was desperate and a war actually was going on around us.

I thought the most poorely done part of Halo 3 was the Elites and Brutes. they just look stupid, even the Grunts look better.

It's not quite how realistic the graphics where, just the way they where done. However, the style of graphics won't change unless we get someelse making them. Not saying we should be replacing anyone of course... *Rolls eyes*

  • 08.14.2009 10:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: OMGaMUSLIM
Create your own game

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Thanks for contributing your idea.

Take your leave now.

This forum is meant for ideas for the new game. Deal with it or don't. Not my problem.

  • 08.14.2009 10:22 PM PDT

Agreed, saving private ryan is one of the best movies ever.

but its also like that in 1 & 2

  • 08.14.2009 10:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: BurntBiscuits
Yeah, a bit like GoW? I love the way that game made the enviroments, it looked like hummanity was desperate and a war actually was going on around us.

I thought the most poorely done part of Halo 3 was the Elites and Brutes. they just look stupid, even the Grunts look better.

It's not quite how realistic the graphics where, just the way they where done. However, the style of graphics won't change unless we get someelse making them. Not saying we should be replacing anyone of course... *Rolls eyes*


I wanted to say like Gears, but mentioning Gears of CoD on BNet is insta-flamebait.

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Posted by: GHOST REVOLVER
Posted by: OMGaMUSLIM
Create your own game

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Cool Story, bro. Now you can haz cookie. ^.^

  • 08.14.2009 10:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: OMGaMUSLIM
Posted by: GHOST REVOLVER
Posted by: OMGaMUSLIM
Create your own game

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Thanks for contributing your idea.

Take your leave now.

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Cool Story, bro. Now you can haz cookie. ^.^


Cool story, bro.

  • 08.14.2009 10:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: BurntBiscuits
Yeah, a bit like GoW? I love the way that game made the enviroments, it looked like hummanity was desperate and a war actually was going on around us.

I thought the most poorely done part of Halo 3 was the Elites and Brutes. they just look stupid, even the Grunts look better.

It's not quite how realistic the graphics where, just the way they where done. However, the style of graphics won't change unless we get someelse making them. Not saying we should be replacing anyone of course... *Rolls eyes*


I wanted to say like Gears, but mentioning Gears of CoD on BNet is insta-flamebait.


Tell me about it. Halo has WAY too many fanboys who think that all other games are crap. Seriously, taking ideas from another game? HERESY! ¬_¬

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Cool story, bro.

Thanks for your support!

  • 08.14.2009 10:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: BurntBiscuits
Yeah, a bit like GoW? I love the way that game made the enviroments, it looked like hummanity was desperate and a war actually was going on around us.

I thought the most poorely done part of Halo 3 was the Elites and Brutes. they just look stupid, even the Grunts look better.

It's not quite how realistic the graphics where, just the way they where done. However, the style of graphics won't change unless we get someelse making them. Not saying we should be replacing anyone of course... *Rolls eyes*


I wanted to say like Gears, but mentioning Gears of CoD on BNet is insta-flamebait.


Tell me about it. Halo has WAY too many fanboys who think that all other games are crap. Seriously, taking ideas from another game? HERESY! ¬_¬


Well, I would like to see the grittiness from Gears, but GOD was Gears color palette boring. Browns, greys, and more browns.

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Rainbow Brite Halo!!! amazing idea.
Ghost Revolver you are my hero.

  • 08.14.2009 11:15 PM PDT

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Ghost Revolver - I think I found a favorite user on this forum. I 110% agree with you. I too would like something Gears-looking, but not with that boring as hell color palette. Earthy tones, yes. Obviously we're going to need to throw in more greens. Halo is full of greens and it wouldn't be Halo without it. We're going to need more blues too for skies and water and other ambiance, but tone it down. Darker blues for a grittier game.

What I've noticed is we're always really getting two times of day, and that's all. Mid-day and night. We never get dusk or late afternoon. It's either bright as hell or pitch black night. Whenever it is actually late afternoon, we're indoors looking out the window.

When Halo 3 was still in production I actually had a dream about a Halo game (was hoping Halo 3). It was only a scenario where I was driving a warthog around a hilly environment and the grass was a sage-like green and very detailed. It was getting darker into the day and the music was Halo, but had a more war-torn theme to it. It felt like Halo: Post Apocalyptic. It was the best dream I ever had.

I'm thinking what they need to utilize is a closer color palette to Half Life 2 and an Engine equal to that of Unreal Engine 3. I think if they focus towards a goal like that, they can nail it.

Here's a good direction

  • 08.14.2009 11:16 PM PDT
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Just like Viva Piñata

  • 08.14.2009 11:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: OMGaMUSLIM
Rainbow Brite Halo!!! amazing idea.
Ghost Revolver you are my hero.


lmfao. You're an idiot, but that made me laugh.

  • 08.14.2009 11:17 PM PDT

I is in your thread reading your post.

yeah the NPCs in Halo 3 that could take down a squad of brutes by themselves and never stop spawning sort of made you feel useless as the last hope for humanity

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Posted by: Forums_R_4_BKs
Just like Viva Piñata


Just like your sex preference. I support -blam!- rights and all, but there's no need for this.

  • 08.14.2009 11:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: codemann95
yeah the NPCs in Halo 3 that could take down a squad of brutes by themselves and never stop spawning sort of made you feel useless as the last hope for humanity


At least it's not CoD 4, where your squad mates do NOTHING.

  • 08.14.2009 11:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Nj Pelli88
Ghost Revolver - I think I found a favorite user on this forum. I 110% agree with you. I too would like something Gears-looking, but not with that boring as hell color palette. Earthy tones, yes. Obviously we're going to need to throw in more greens. Halo is full of greens and it wouldn't be Halo without it. We're going to need more blues too for skies and water and other ambiance, but tone it down. Darker blues for a grittier game.

What I've noticed is we're always really getting two times of day, and that's all. Mid-day and night. We never get dusk or late afternoon. It's either bright as hell or pitch black night. Whenever it is actually late afternoon, we're indoors looking out the window.

When Halo 3 was still in production I actually had a dream about a Halo game (was hoping Halo 3). It was only a scenario where I was driving a warthog around a hilly environment and the grass was a sage-like green and very detailed. It was getting darker into the day and the music was Halo, but had a more war-torn theme to it. It felt like Halo: Post Apocalyptic. It was the best dream I ever had.

I'm thinking what they need to utilize is a closer color palette to Half Life 2 and an Engine equal to that of Unreal Engine 3. I think if they focus towards a goal like that, they can nail it.

Here's a good direction


I'm glad you agree, but we also need to work on the characters. Their appearances alone look cartoony and need to be revamped. Both the Chief and the Arbiter both look so... "videogamish."

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if they just made it so u didnt feel like u were gonna throw a birthday party in the game, but didnt go as far as making u wanna curl up in a ball and cry because there is no happiness, then u got a good idea. Like CoD, but... Halo... y...

  • 08.14.2009 11:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: XMadIrishmanX
if they just made it so u didnt feel like u were gonna throw a birthday party in the game, but didnt go as far as making u wanna curl up in a ball and cry because there is no happiness, then u got a good idea. Like CoD, but... Halo... y...

Liking the way you described that lol.

  • 08.14.2009 11:23 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Keep the colors. Make the lighting more dramatic, like a heavily inked comic.

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I think this is a good direction for halo.

Gears of War suckk-blam!--blam!--blam!-ssssssssssss, I don't understand why anyone likes it(must be the hype) COD is a good game but it doesn't look any better then halo 3, it looks even crappier(Truthfully I didn't even like halo 3 that much).

  • 08.14.2009 11:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Uncle Kulikov
Keep the colors. Make the lighting more dramatic, like a heavily inked comic.


Interesting idea.. I like it.

  • 08.14.2009 11:27 PM PDT

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