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Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
But it makes map control more important, and it promotes team work, etc.

Do not post class stuff here, post in the thread I made so I can make a proper response.

Posted by: XMadIrishmanX
no u have custom classes you take away the advantage of getting things like the sniper first


But you just posted class stuff here....

  • 08.15.2009 12:01 AM PDT
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i never said anything about classes. u want classes? go to CoD

  • 08.15.2009 12:04 AM PDT

yeah sounds pretty cool i like things darker cause then you dont see like a red thing in shade or something idk

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Posted by: XMadIrishmanX
i never said anything about classes. u want classes? go to CoD


I don't get why we argue that grittiness is going to make Halo turn into Call of Duty or Gears, yet everyone wants classes...

I mean, I totally understand the prospect of classes. But I don't think gritiness is going to turn Halo: Reach into Gears of War 3 or Call of Duty 7.

  • 08.15.2009 12:06 AM PDT
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agreed, ur probably the only sensable person here. Halo is Halo unless chief takes that stupid time travel thing to this century, its not gonna be a game like call of duty. Bungie will find some way to make it a little gritty, but still has a the great feel of the original Halo trilogy

  • 08.15.2009 12:10 AM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

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SLIGHT change
This is important, for either side of the argument.

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when i say slight, i mean like from eggshell to white.

sorry i couldnt find anyway to explain tht... now i want eggs

  • 08.15.2009 12:12 AM PDT
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Posted by: XMadIrishmanX
SLIGHT change
This is important, for either side of the argument.


Well, I need to go to sleep now, if there are any other interesting developments, I'll bring the thread back up.

As for classes.

I say bring it up for the beta. See how it works. But they would need to bring the beta out sooner than expected. If nobody likes the classes, it'll take too long to change in just a few months. As for the grittiness. I say we need it in the Haloverse. I'm really tired of the bland, cartoony feel of the Halo games. If I absolutely had to go with the original feel from the Halo games, I would pick Halo 2. That game was the darkest of them all.

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ok, u go to bed. i will run this cluster -blam!- of a topic. rofl

  • 08.15.2009 12:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: XMadIrishmanX
ok, u go to bed. i will run this cluster -blam!- of a topic. rofl

Um. OK.

It's called quoting, by the way.

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Posted by: GHOST REVOLVER
I agree with you on the ODST look. They did some nice art work with that. I can just tell the game is much more sinister feeling. I mean stuff like that, but to a little bit more of an extreme.




I can appreciate that, I just don't want the halo franchise to pull a 180

that render of the arbiter above my original post is spectacular I might add

I have no problem with styling changes like that, it just shouldn't become a sim style shooter

  • 08.15.2009 12:28 AM PDT

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Yeah, I agree. The cutscenes in Halo Wars were also a hellofalot better, maybe because there's just about 2 years difference between the games. I do expect Reach's cutscenes to be even better, there are 3 years between Halo 3 and Reach, and I do expect it to be darker and less colourful, if it does take place during the battle of Reach.

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cod fanboy, go away

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If they make the game darker then that could potentially add a stealth element if you so chose. Take that comment how you want to.

  • 08.15.2009 8:01 AM PDT

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Am I the only one who likes Halo 3 color scheme. It's relaxing and colorful and any different wouldn't be halo

  • 08.15.2009 8:18 AM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
I'd love to be a 10 year old and tell my mom I'm going on an adventure out into the world catching Pokemon, with her full support. Never mind the fact that there are rapists, criminals, and murders out there, or the fact that I may get killed by a Pokemon.

Luckily I have Pikachu.

I disagree, Halo is one of the only shooter franchises that is not oversaturated with nothing but constant shades of brown and greys (Killzone, Call of Duty Gears of War). It's sickning to play World At War and see eveyrthing including the trees look like someone took a big dumb on everything. Real life has more colour than those games.

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Posted by: RStuck3
I potentially add a stealth element if you so chose.

ODST is mainly focused on stealth.. so there

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Posted by: The BS Police
I disagree, Halo is one of the only shooter franchises that is not oversaturated with nothing but constant shades of brown and greys (Killzone, Call of Duty Gears of War). It's sickning to play World At War and see eveyrthing including the trees look like someone took a big dumb on everything. Real life has more colour than those games.


I said several times the color scheme can remain the same, but the character models could look good with a nice dark touch to them.

  • 08.15.2009 3:43 PM PDT
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like in the halo wars cutscenes, the elites didnt look like they were painted with a candy coating... something like that

  • 08.15.2009 3:51 PM PDT
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  • 08.15.2009 3:52 PM PDT

I for one agree 100%.

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Sad but true... Halo 1 > Halo 2>>>Halo 3

Why do so many people like the gritty, ugly, colorless art style of Unreal Engine games? The best thing about Halo's graphics is how colorful it is. If Halo 3 had the same drab, boring color of Gears of War, it would look terrible. You can't have a game with an open world like Halo while simultaneously having the graphical fidelity of Gears.

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Posted by: defghik
Why do so many people like the gritty, ugly, colorless art style of Unreal Engine games? The best thing about Halo's graphics is how colorful it is. If Halo 3 had the same drab, boring color of Gears of War, it would look terrible. You can't have a game with an open world like Halo while simultaneously having the graphical fidelity of Gears.


Not many understand where I'm coming from. Halo 3 can still have it's colors, maybe tone them down a little, but the textures and character models look so...cartoony and constantly remind me I'm in a video game. Mass Effect had an amazing style. Pretty gritty, but also very colorful. Make Halo like that, but maybe with a little more grit, and you have what I would like to see.

  • 08.15.2009 4:18 PM PDT

Posted by: defghik
Why do so many people like the gritty, ugly, colorless art style of Unreal Engine games? The best thing about Halo's graphics is how colorful it is. If Halo 3 had the same drab, boring color of Gears of War, it would look terrible. You can't have a game with an open world like Halo while simultaneously having the graphical fidelity of Gears.


it does look "terrible" when done to that extent, however when done in moderation it can deffinitely help to remove the fake feeling you get whilst playing under halo 3's current graphics.

  • 08.15.2009 4:19 PM PDT

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