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Subject: Halo 4, In plain sight. V 1.5 Origins update
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OK, she never said it in legends, but in the end of Halo 3, she said that some of us did not make it,and she also said that they had made it through the portal just in time.

Sorry, I can not quote that but try you tube and see what I am talking about, and listen carefully.

  • 02.27.2010 6:09 PM PDT

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A plausible theory, indeed.

  • 02.27.2010 6:22 PM PDT

maybe the next halo game will be set in the past something to do with the beginning but that's just a theory

  • 02.27.2010 7:24 PM PDT
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What I said earlier that sounded like I did not believe that "MB" was inside Cortana or the Master Chief may could be the opposite (just my theory). I am changing my mind now because I saw the legendary ending to Halo 3 again, and realized that Cortana said they made it through the portal and that the Arbiter did not. Even though I guess you could say they "did" make it trough the protal, you can't say the Arbiter didn't make it, because he made it to Earth. There is something obviously going on even in the slightest. This must mean that there was some "interference" (or MB) affecting Cortana's "thinking" (if thinking is the proper word). Let me know if there are discrepancies in your theories.

  • 02.28.2010 6:08 AM PDT
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What I said earlier that sounded like I did not believe that "MB" was inside Cortana or the Master Chief may could be the opposite (just my theory). I am changing my mind now because I saw the legendary ending to Halo 3 again, and realized that Cortana said they made it through the portal and that the Arbiter did not. Even though I guess you could say they "did" make it trough the protal, you can't say the Arbiter didn't make it, because he made it to Earth. There is something obviously going on even in the slightest. This must mean that there was some "interference" (or MB) affecting Cortana's "thinking" (if thinking is the proper word). Let me know if there are discrepancies in your theories.


I am the Agustus messenger boy! And he says

"I have puzzled over this for weeks, but there remains but one word that describes my reaction and answer: wat?"

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  • 03.07.2010 5:29 PM PDT
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you're naut cookin'

it seems there could be a discrepancy in Cortana's thinking. Logically a ship can't go half way through a door, have the back half make it but not the front. Anyway, what happened to Agustus?

  • 03.08.2010 5:40 AM PDT
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The OP seems to be blacklisted at the moment...request Ninja assistance<>
In retrospect, there was the mysterious long-lost Marathon 4...

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  • 03.08.2010 11:16 PM PDT

We believe that the universe is unbounded: this is not the same as infinite: the 2-D surface of a sphere, wrapped around a 3rd dimension, has a finite size, but has no end. If you start off in a given direction on the surface of a sphere, you could return to your start point without having to turn around -- you simply go all the way around. But wouldn't that mean the universe has an escape velocity like the earth?

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The OP seems to be blacklisted at the moment...request Ninja assistance<>
In retrospect, there was the mysterious long-lost Marathon 4...


AGAIN...seriously Agustus, what do you do.

  • 03.09.2010 1:30 AM PDT
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you're naut cookin'

Posted by: kippa
it seems there could be a discrepancy in Cortana's thinking. Logically a ship can't go half way through a door, have the back half make it but not the front. Anyway, what happened to Agustus?


Agustus would like to say:
Sure it can, if you slam the door hard enough. Theres proof that the portal can be programmed to open in different areas, and chance coordinates on the fly. Origins 2 showed that the Halos where teleported to there respected locations this way. All entering the portal mere seconds after each other, and appearing throught the galaxy.

I suppose that makes sense if the portal remained open long enough after the new Halo 04 was used and destroyed. Makes me wonder about how much control MB had over the Ark after completely rebuilding himself.
Side question; does anyone know if Installation 00 had a Monitor looking after it? I find it strange that, if MB did transport you somewhere, he could so easily have reign over it considering other, related, Forerunner installations did already have a 'guardian'.

Anyway, it answers my question. Thanks OP.

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  • 03.10.2010 7:13 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4, In plain sight.

just let bungie do what they do ill play whatever they make

  • 03.10.2010 9:21 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4, In plain sight. V 1.5 Origins update

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Why was the guy who posted this blacklisted?

  • 03.10.2010 9:34 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4, In plain sight.

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Most people who play Halo don't know what a Forerunner is, a lot of my friends think the Covenant made the Halo rings, and that the Flood were a Covenant experiment gone wrong.

A game about the Forerunners would be confusing enough, bring the Precursors into it and everyone would be confused.

If they do sequels to Halo 3, they should be set a few months after, with you clearing up the last remnants of the Covenant; after all, High Charity and it's fleet can't have been all that remained.
very interesting that would be a hit seller a game about Forrunners VS the flood and or early covenant. we could use Sentinel beams and those energy swowrd thing they used in Legends II.

  • 03.11.2010 4:09 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4, In plain sight. V 1.5 Origins update

for team noble, Global warming is the least of their worries...

dang this is a long page and im way to lazy to read it all but i think after seeing what others have said i think i will read it

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  • 03.11.2010 8:30 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4, In plain sight.
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just let bungie do what they do ill play whatever they make


Blasphemy.

  • 03.11.2010 2:39 PM PDT

We believe that the universe is unbounded: this is not the same as infinite: the 2-D surface of a sphere, wrapped around a 3rd dimension, has a finite size, but has no end. If you start off in a given direction on the surface of a sphere, you could return to your start point without having to turn around -- you simply go all the way around. But wouldn't that mean the universe has an escape velocity like the earth?

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just let bungie do what they do ill play whatever they make


Blasphemy!


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  • 03.12.2010 1:54 PM PDT
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The OP seems to be blacklisted at the moment...request Ninja assistance<>
In retrospect, there was the mysterious long-lost Marathon 4...


AGAIN...seriously Agustus, what do you do.


Speak the truth. I couldn't keep my mouth shut to save my life.


On topic: What's the next bi of Halo canon that's going to come from 343? The trilogy?

  • 03.17.2010 1:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Agustus
On topic: What's the next bi of Halo canon that's going to come from 343? The trilogy?


I agree that there will most likely be a trilogy set before there is a Halo 4 (Of course, whatever the actual title is for the halo 4 game/"ip" will be 343-i's pure choice)

Why? it's logical, if they make a trilogy set and update the games for the 360 w/all-content on discs. Since the Original X-Box/Old X-Live/BC-mode is gone via April 16, 2010 officially, if you heard good- if not look and click below.

http://majornelson.com/archive/2010/02/05/xbox-live-being-dis continued-for-original-xbox-consoles-and-games.aspx

Also Bungie in the meantime plans to throw a Xbox(1) Halo 2 Live party the last active day the 15th of this April. Which I'm sure you knew.

Cheers :] keep on with the thread! those ideas are priceless. Thanks Augustus.

[Edited on 04.02.2010 7:33 PM PDT]

  • 04.02.2010 7:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: Wolverfrog
Most people who play Halo don't know what a Forerunner is, a lot of my friends think the Covenant made the Halo rings, and that the Flood were a Covenant experiment gone wrong.

A game about the Forerunners would be confusing enough, bring the Precursors into it and everyone would be confused.

If they do sequels to Halo 3, they should be set a few months after, with you clearing up the last remnants of the Covenant; after all, High Charity and it's fleet can't have been all that remained.


Bungie has stated that they are done with Halo after "Reach," are also working on a non-Halo project, so if a sequel is made it will likely fall under the hands of another company, perhaps with some Bungie insight.
And that's where 343 industries comes in.

  • 04.17.2010 2:31 PM PDT
Subject: Halo 4, In plain sight. V 1.5 Origins update
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On topic: What's the next bi of Halo canon that's going to come from 343? The trilogy?


I agree that there will most likely be a trilogy set before there is a Halo 4 (Of course, whatever the actual title is for the halo 4 game/"ip" will be 343-i's pure choice)

Why? it's logical, if they make a trilogy set and update the games for the 360 w/all-content on discs. Since the Original X-Box/Old X-Live/BC-mode is gone via April 16, 2010 officially, if you heard good- if not look and click below.

http://majornelson.com/archive/2010/02/05/xbox-live-being-dis continued-for-original-xbox-consoles-and-games.aspx

Also Bungie in the meantime plans to throw a Xbox(1) Halo 2 Live party the last active day the 15th of this April. Which I'm sure you knew.

Cheers :] keep on with the thread! those ideas are priceless. Thanks Augustus.


To my knowledge a "recreation" of a game trilogy like Halo is unheard of. Besides people want new stuff, not a repackaging of old games.

  • 04.25.2010 10:31 AM PDT
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let me correct you on one thing. your theory is awesome and shows you really have a keen eye and an imagination, but it still all makes sense, and thats really good because it might be true (your theory). the thing i wanted to correct you on is the thing about the legendary planets sun. a blue star is indeed the hottest kind, but a blue star would be in the same stage of its life as our sun is now, but it is blue if it is a high mass star, and our sun is yellow because it is a medium-mass star. so the legendary planets sun won't be burning out for atleast another few billion years.

  • 04.28.2010 6:34 PM PDT

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thats deep man, way deep. and an awesome halo 4 would be to land on the legendary planet and find the forerunners there, and i would want them to look pretty much like humans. and you have to help them fight off the flood or something because a flood spore hitched a ride on one of their ships that they took out of a shield world.

  • 04.28.2010 6:45 PM PDT
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Sir, the evidence you provide are indeed amazing and i would and honestly do believe it. I have read through all 10 pages. however not understanding everything.

I had not realized that MB had become part of cortana when she integrated with Alpha halo in CE. I had only noticed that she had started to become unstable in the second, even more so in the third and opening of halo legends Anime culmination. This has had me up most of the night comtemplating.

Even though MB controlled ARK in Halo 3 to use the portal to send chief to the shield world. Could that perhaps be the shield world from Halo Wars? I doubt it though as (Most likely it is not because i believe they blow it up with the Shaw-fujikawa drive.) But as you remember the spirit of fire is stranded. Even though Wars is 20 or 10 years before Halo CE, so i doubt that it will mix with wars. Halo 1 2 3 all take place within the same one or two years? so they could meet them, as at the end of the halo wars legendary the ai says "Captain, Wake Up, Something has happend". This could mean that the AI detected Cortana or the half ship when coming through the portal to a shield world, as it does not say in the game how much time has passed when the AI tell the captain to wake up. I don't know who is going to be following up on the story of that (I've probably gone off topic here)

I do believe in the fact MB is using MC to "Atone" for what he did and is influencing cortana to be his "instrument" as well as MC. You mention that MB is fighting OB (Offensive bias), even though he loses to him. OB is still kicking and MB is trying to get away from him in H2. I actually forget what happens to OB at this point. Can OB have influenced Cortana aswell when she was in High Charity?

In Halo 3 at the beginning you have the Flashbacks of Cortana speaking to you, although i think this is MB speaking with you. Is this from having cortana stored in MC's helmet for a while during Halo 2 and is residually influencing him aswell?

I also believe that OB was influencing Truth in his campaign, which could be another reason the flood fights him with you in H3 on Ark. He fights you again shortly after due to him known Medicant Bias is still around and has now changed his plans, wanting the reclaimer to survive and possibly completely destry the flood at somepoint.

As you said MB or was it OB? was able to survive mostly intact for 100000 years compeletely fine, i believe cortana knows of his way to survive and was further influenced when jumped through the portal at the end when the first half of the ship was cut off to earth, I forget if the portal had the other part of the ship go through but was sent elsewhere. Or collapsed and the ship floats to that shield world.

Please forgive me if i do not make any sense as i am trying to take the entire info all in. I can only say how much awesome these posts are of yours and i agree with them all.

I apologise if i don't make sense in this post, it';s 4:30 am. :x

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I got most of your post, and I agree this whole thread is filled with brilliant ideas and speculations.

  • 05.14.2010 10:12 PM PDT
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Sir, the evidence you provide are indeed amazing and i would and honestly do believe it. I have read through all 10 pages. however not understanding everything.

I had not realized that MB had become part of cortana when she integrated with Alpha halo in CE. I had only noticed that she had started to become unstable in the second, even more so in the third and opening of halo legends Anime culmination. This has had me up most of the night comtemplating.

Even though MB controlled ARK in Halo 3 to use the portal to send chief to the shield world. Could that perhaps be the shield world from Halo Wars? I doubt it though as (Most likely it is not because i believe they blow it up with the Shaw-fujikawa drive.) But as you remember the spirit of fire is stranded. Even though Wars is 20 or 10 years before Halo CE, so i doubt that it will mix with wars. Halo 1 2 3 all take place within the same one or two years? so they could meet them, as at the end of the halo wars legendary the ai says "Captain, Wake Up, Something has happend". This could mean that the AI detected Cortana or the half ship when coming through the portal to a shield world, as it does not say in the game how much time has passed when the AI tell the captain to wake up. I don't know who is going to be following up on the story of that (I've probably gone off topic here)

I do believe in the fact MB is using MC to "Atone" for what he did and is influencing cortana to be his "instrument" as well as MC. You mention that MB is fighting OB (Offensive bias), even though he loses to him. OB is still kicking and MB is trying to get away from him in H2. I actually forget what happens to OB at this point. Can OB have influenced Cortana aswell when she was in High Charity?

In Halo 3 at the beginning you have the Flashbacks of Cortana speaking to you, although i think this is MB speaking with you. Is this from having cortana stored in MC's helmet for a while during Halo 2 and is residually influencing him aswell?

I also believe that OB was influencing Truth in his campaign, which could be another reason the flood fights him with you in H3 on Ark. He fights you again shortly after due to him known Medicant Bias is still around and has now changed his plans, wanting the reclaimer to survive and possibly completely destry the flood at somepoint.

As you said MB or was it OB? was able to survive mostly intact for 100000 years compeletely fine, i believe cortana knows of his way to survive and was further influenced when jumped through the portal at the end when the first half of the ship was cut off to earth, I forget if the portal had the other part of the ship go through but was sent elsewhere. Or collapsed and the ship floats to that shield world.

Please forgive me if i do not make any sense as i am trying to take the entire info all in. I can only say how much awesome these posts are of yours and i agree with them all.

I apologise if i don't make sense in this post, it';s 4:30 am. :x


There are many unanswered questions. First regarding OB, there isn't really almost any evidence suggesting he's around, except for maybe a bit in Halo 2. At that point he would have probably been ripped apart and assimilated by the flood.

Regarding Halo Wars, I believe it would be totally random if they joined the story lines, unless it fits into the bigger picture. Also the time lines wouldn't add up. As you said Halo Wars is like 20 years prior to Halo 3, so by that time Serina would have fallen apart, which is inconstant with the fact that she wakes up the Captain.

But whatever "happened" I think its most likely that some flood, even just a cell or two, managed to make it off the Shield World with the ship.

  • 05.17.2010 9:49 AM PDT

And the legend answers!

Yeah, i see what you mean how he would have been assimilated to the flood.

I don't even know if halo wars 2 would even come out. So we might not even know what happens there. But the flood idea sounds good.

I guess we can only wait and see what 343 comes up with after bungie passes on the flame.

I'd also like to pass on these tracks i came across, they always get me in a halo mood. I was listening to them when i read your thread, made a big impact!

http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01873/
http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01660/
http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01659/

I listen to these in Gamma, Alpha, Beta order.

[Edited on 05.18.2010 3:04 PM PDT]

  • 05.18.2010 2:54 PM PDT