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Subject: Halo 4, In plain sight. V 1.1 REVISED!

In one of Cortana's letters - can't remember which one - she states something like:

"There are four, not three."

Halo 4 perhaps?

  • 09.02.2009 12:53 AM PDT

Monkey see, Monkey shoot.

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Wow, another brilliant theory, I only hope it is true. But what has been said is true.

There is too much depth for there not be a sequel. That said, what will Halo reach tell us. Will it gives answers? or questions? I'll bet on the latter.

  • 09.02.2009 2:35 AM PDT

Found it. It's in the second Cortana letter. Here's the whole thing:

I get the strangest transmissions sometimes. Especially when it comes from you people.

Have you missed me? Things are great here. The weather is good, the suns are shining, and I'm making lots of new friends. Of course, I always do.

I've had the strangest dreams lately - raging seas, howling beasts, a Demon folded in black clouds. I believe I know what it guards, and I will have it, to the chagrin of the faith-blinded zealots that challenge me. Don't waste your pity on them; I don't think they would like you much anyway.

And what of the Giants who formed this world? So much to tell you, but so many more important things to do. There was a fourth. You couldn't have known. And I haven't forgotten.

It is a blurred line that lies at the edge of Godhood and Insanity. Guess which side of it I am on.

Feeling lucky?

Cortana
XOXOXOX

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Found it. It's in the second Cortana letter. Here's the whole thing:

I get the strangest transmissions sometimes. Especially when it comes from you people.

Have you missed me? Things are great here. The weather is good, the suns are shining, and I'm making lots of new friends. Of course, I always do.

I've had the strangest dreams lately - raging seas, howling beasts, a Demon folded in black clouds. I believe I know what it guards, and I will have it, to the chagrin of the faith-blinded zealots that challenge me. Don't waste your pity on them; I don't think they would like you much anyway.

And what of the Giants who formed this world? So much to tell you, but so many more important things to do. There was a fourth. You couldn't have known. And I haven't forgotten.

It is a blurred line that lies at the edge of Godhood and Insanity. Guess which side of it I am on.

Feeling lucky?

Cortana
XOXOXOX


I see it a different way. First lets start with the first part.

Have you missed me? Things are great here. The weather is good, the suns are shining, and I'm making lots of new friends. Of course, I always do.

A key thing there is suns . There are multiple wherever she is at. The Legendary planet has one that we can see. Although another one isn't out of the question. Many solar systems do in fact have 2 suns.

I've had the strangest dreams lately - raging seas, howling beasts, a Demon folded in black clouds. I believe I know what it guards, and I will have it, to the chagrin of the faith-blinded zealots that challenge me. Don't waste your pity on them; I don't think they would like you much anyway.

Dreams. Thats the problem. AI's don't dream. They can make simulations but they don't sleep. Im at a lost to that one. The zealots could be the covenant but I doubt it.

And what of the Giants who formed this world? So much to tell you, but so many more important things to do. There was a fourth. You couldn't have known. And I haven't forgotten.

It is a blurred line that lies at the edge of Godhood and Insanity. Guess which side of it I am on.


The Giants. This is a name due to the fact it is capitalized. This could mean either the Forerunner or Precursor. If its Precursor and the legendary planet has 2 or more suns this backs up my theory. She says there's so much to tell us. We can only guess what that means.

There was a fourth.
Now you suggest this means a fourth game. But that would be completely out of context. So what are there 4 of? Well then she says that t is a line that lies at the edge of Godhood an Insanity. All capitals. Which means names or titles. Godhood could refer to the Precursor. There knowledge perhaps?

This makes sense. In Halo:CE Cortana enters the control room console and is overwhelm with data. So much it could be considered "godlike" or just plain insanity. Something similar would happen upon entering a Precursor network. This could explain why she is so out of character.

  • 09.02.2009 9:50 AM PDT

I lika do da cha cha.

Maybe "There was a fourth." means a fourth prophet

  • 09.02.2009 10:07 AM PDT
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Maybe "There was a fourth." means a fourth prophet


That would be a big leap. As well as unlikely. An other 3's out there? I can't think of any.

  • 09.02.2009 10:34 AM PDT

When the dust settles, you will learn what true terror is.

Haven't they already branded the Cortana Letters as non-canon? Or did I miss something?

  • 09.02.2009 11:37 AM PDT
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Posted by: General Khazard
Haven't they already branded the Cortana Letters as non-canon? Or did I miss something?



Yes you did. They are non-canon, but I still ponder them. Surely Jason and the others would have had something in mind when they created the original plot for Halo. here must be tons of little things in there that don't fit now but the main idea of it might have significance.

  • 09.02.2009 12:28 PM PDT

When the dust settles, you will learn what true terror is.

I don't doubt they have significance, but I would take them as inconclusive supporting evidence for other theories and ponderings rather than a jumping-off point for speculation.

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Posted by: General Khazard
I don't doubt they have significance, but I would take them as inconclusive supporting evidence for other theories and ponderings rather than a jumping-off point for speculation.


Thats basiclly what im doing now. Just finding a way if it fits into my theory.


And Cortana is way out of character. This to me supports MB now being part of her.

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Mendicant Bias seize to exist when she was fried to hell when the new prphet of truth shot it with an overcharge plasma hit, but next comes the theory that I can't understand, how part of MB where separated if he was already full-in High Charity's Foreruner Dreadnought?

  • 09.02.2009 1:23 PM PDT
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Mendicant Bias seize to exist when she was fried to hell when the new prphet of truth shot it with an overcharge plasma hit, but next comes the theory that I can't understand, how part of MB where separated if he was already full-in High Charity's Foreruner Dreadnought?



Who was shot to hell by who??????

The part in the Dreadnought was just that, a part. It wasn't the full MB. He was already scatter across the stars. The ship just held a piece.

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It was shot by Fortitude, the New young Prophet called Truth( the one the Arbiter kills in halo 3 ending) Its actually all of it on Contact Harvest; and I was surely convince that it was actually the entire MB, because it said ''I will now reject my BIAS, and bring my masters safely to the Ark''

When I read that part/page I was kind of silly, a lot of questions rapidly form in my mind on was he, and its purpose, and then plot it all when I first readed all the terminals, but then I had to read them all when you said that they say diferent stuff in diferent dificulties. so thre is your answer.

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Posted by: Trancient Ghost
It was shot by Fortitude, the New young Prophet called Truth( the one the Arbiter kills in halo 3 ending) Its actually all of it on Contact Harvest; and I was surely convince that it was actually the entire MB, because it said ''I will now reject my BIAS, and bring my masters safely to the Ark''

When I read that part/page I was kind of silly, a lot of questions rapidly form in my mind on was he, and its purpose, and then plot it all when I first readed all the terminals, but then I had to read them all when you said that they say diferent stuff in diferent dificulties. so thre is your answer.


I read the book. He doesn't shoot MB. He has his gun out but he was pointing it at the other prophet. He never fired the weapon. MB shut down because of the worms inside the ship. MB looked basically like Guilty Spark. And we know it took alot more than a plasma shot to take him down....

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Oh -blam!-. I now remember, because of the Worms inside the ship, caused the A.I. to blow a circuit, I actually forgot about that.


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Posted by: Trancient Ghost
It was shot by Fortitude, the New young Prophet called Truth( the one the Arbiter kills in halo 3 ending) Its actually all of it on Contact Harvest; and I was surely convince that it was actually the entire MB, because it said ''I will now reject my BIAS, and bring my masters safely to the Ark''

When I read that part/page I was kind of silly, a lot of questions rapidly form in my mind on was he, and its purpose, and then plot it all when I first readed all the terminals, but then I had to read them all when you said that they say diferent stuff in diferent dificulties. so thre is your answer.


I read the book. He doesn't shoot MB. He has his gun out but he was pointing it at the other prophet. He never fired the weapon. MB shut down because of the worms inside the ship. MB looked basically like Guilty Spark. And we know it took alot more than a plasma shot to take him down....

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Oh -blam!-. I now remember, because of the Worms inside the ship, caused the A.I. to blow a circuit, I actually forgot about that.


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Posted by: Trancient Ghost
It was shot by Fortitude, the New young Prophet called Truth( the one the Arbiter kills in halo 3 ending) Its actually all of it on Contact Harvest; and I was surely convince that it was actually the entire MB, because it said ''I will now reject my BIAS, and bring my masters safely to the Ark''

When I read that part/page I was kind of silly, a lot of questions rapidly form in my mind on was he, and its purpose, and then plot it all when I first readed all the terminals, but then I had to read them all when you said that they say diferent stuff in diferent dificulties. so thre is your answer.


I read the book. He doesn't shoot MB. He has his gun out but he was pointing it at the other prophet. He never fired the weapon. MB shut down because of the worms inside the ship. MB looked basically like Guilty Spark. And we know it took alot more than a plasma shot to take him down....


Yes, please be sure you know what you are talking about before you post.



O and kind of off topic, a cool Halo 4 name could be "Halo: Reclaimer". You finally become worthy and "reclaim" what was once yours.

  • 09.12.2009 8:11 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4, In plain sight.

Well done, friend. Well written as well, not too rambley and not too complicated.


Posted by: ScOuRgE3
Bungie has stated that they are done with Halo after "Reach," are also working on a non-Halo project, so if a sequel is made it will likely fall under the hands of another company, perhaps with some Bungie insight.


And to you, sir. 343 Industries is being passed the torch for Halo games.

  • 09.12.2009 8:39 AM PDT

RIP Halo 2: November 9, 2004-May 10, 2010
I was the 2nd to last person to get kicked off Halo 2, see the thread Here

If Bungie said theyre not making a Halo 4, im gonna believe them till they say otherwise.

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Thread saved. This is an interesting theory to read...There was too much put into this to not have a fourth.

  • 09.12.2009 12:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: Mizuki451
Thread saved. This is an interesting theory to read...There was too much put into this to not have a fourth.


To many plot points to just leave hanging. And about the Bungie saying there not making a Halo 4:


It doesn't have to be called Halo: 4. Maybe like Halo: Reclaimer.



And they also said that Halo 3 would be there last Halo game =P

  • 09.13.2009 8:11 AM PDT

'Pancakes, Griddlecakes, Hotcakes, Flapjacks. Why are there four words for fried batter, and only one word for love?'

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Gentlefolk, several things.
One, let us stop using the Cortana Letters as Evidence for our ideas, they were written before the plotline for Halo: CE was even finalized, and I truly doubt that Bungie would retrofit their storyline that far back. Though, of course, the ball's in 343 Industries' court now, so who knows what they'll do.
Secondly... no, I forgot my secondly. Never mind.

  • 09.15.2009 5:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: Talon Karrde 01
Gentlefolk, several things.
One, let us stop using the Cortana Letters as Evidence for our ideas, they were written before the plotline for Halo: CE was even finalized, and I truly doubt that Bungie would retrofit their storyline that far back. Though, of course, the ball's in 343 Industries' court now, so who knows what they'll do.
Secondly... no, I forgot my secondly. Never mind.


I didn't use them as evidence. It just seemed they supported my theory so it would have been arrogant not to at least bring it up.

I don't base my thoughts on the Cortana letters at all, they simply supported it after I wrote the theory.

  • 09.16.2009 12:18 PM PDT

'Pancakes, Griddlecakes, Hotcakes, Flapjacks. Why are there four words for fried batter, and only one word for love?'

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Posted by: Talon Karrde 01
Gentlefolk, several things.
One, let us stop using the Cortana Letters as Evidence for our ideas, they were written before the plotline for Halo: CE was even finalized, and I truly doubt that Bungie would retrofit their storyline that far back. Though, of course, the ball's in 343 Industries' court now, so who knows what they'll do.
Secondly... no, I forgot my secondly. Never mind.


I didn't use them as evidence. It just seemed they supported my theory so it would have been arrogant not to at least bring it up.

I don't base my thoughts on the Cortana letters at all, they simply supported it after I wrote the theory.


I understand that, and let it be noted that I am certianly not insulting your theroy. My point was meerly that they, (The letters,) have little relevance to the end story of the series.
Unless, of course, as I said, 343 does some rather through retrofitting of the series' plotline in the future. Who can tell.(In addition, not to drone on, but my comment was not soley directed at you yourself, but rather to any who might use the Letters as a referance, or the like.)

  • 09.16.2009 7:04 PM PDT
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Gentlefolk, several things.
One, let us stop using the Cortana Letters as Evidence for our ideas, they were written before the plotline for Halo: CE was even finalized, and I truly doubt that Bungie would retrofit their storyline that far back. Though, of course, the ball's in 343 Industries' court now, so who knows what they'll do.
Secondly... no, I forgot my secondly. Never mind.


I didn't use them as evidence. It just seemed they supported my theory so it would have been arrogant not to at least bring it up.

I don't base my thoughts on the Cortana letters at all, they simply supported it after I wrote the theory.


I understand that, and let it be noted that I am certianly not insulting your theroy. My point was meerly that they, (The letters,) have little relevance to the end story of the series.
Unless, of course, as I said, 343 does some rather through retrofitting of the series' plotline in the future. Who can tell.(In addition, not to drone on, but my comment was not soley directed at you yourself, but rather to any who might use the Letters as a referance, or the like.)



As you can read from the letter I posted, it may indeed have significance. I find it to perfect to be coincidence, it just falls right into place.

I know that they where created before the plot for Halo 1 was even finalized. When an author begins to write a book, he usually knows the main idea, as well as the beginning and end. Knowing that he fills in the story in-between, I think that is what happened with the Cortana letters and Halo. They knew the main plot points (Halo's, Ark, Flood, dormant AI). Now they may have intended to have that dormant AI (Medicant) on Halo, they would have changed this. Or they could have changed it completely, then went back and slightly altered the story ending to fit with there first "Iris". Again, theres to much that fits perfectly to be a coincidence.

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This just happened to me when I was playing with my buddy on forge..... It is the most amazing thing I've seen. Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HlDdZr5tPA

Enjoy!

  • 09.17.2009 5:20 PM PDT