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Subject: Halo 4, In plain sight. V 1.3 New Link!

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Agustus, this thread is ridiculous....ly amazing!

Seriously though, I love good theories. And this one is sure as hell well-written.

  • 12.04.2009 9:00 PM PDT
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I like your theories. I find your twist of MB speaking through Cortana to "us" and Gravemind totally believable and in fact I think in all likelihood that it is true. This could be the explanation for her rampancy.

Also, I find that your idea of the Great Journey not being death for the Forerunners but yet a means of them traveling somewhere, genius. We know Bungie put deep meaning in all halo-realted terms and from what I've been exposed to no one has ever really delved into what the "great journey" could actually mean. Maybe it really is a great journey, a literal translation and not a religious term of the Covenant. After all, for a species that lasted hundreds of thousand of years and whose intelligence is limitless compared to humans, why would the forerunners kill themselves? One would assume that they have the wherewithall to teleport themselves somewhere else, a great journey. As we all know, MB resided in HC and the Prophets had years to probe it and gather SO MUCH info. The Prophet uses the term Great Journey, defined by Medicant Bias which leads me to believe it really is a journey because why would an AI use such religious references? This is most likely what the forerunners called it because it was a literal journey, this was relayed by MB to the prophets.

Building on this, it seems all too likely that the Forerunners are still alive somewhere, safe from the flood. I think this fact is something very important to what you were saying and you got OH SO CLOSE to hitting on it but you really didnt, maybe you insinuated it and i just didnt catch it completely. Did MB send the master cheif to the forerunners?

At the end of Halo 3 the portal to Earth is closed right when the half of the ship conatining the MC is about to pass. From your evidence I cannot explain this any other way than it being a final act of MB. There is just too much of a coincidence here for it not to be so. MB is trying to send the Master Chief to the forerunner's location as proof of his effort to repay his sins.

Maybe MB has planted himself in Cortana somehow (afterall he is the most advanced AI in the history of the universe) and travel with the MC, quite possibly taking over her form and leading the chief to the forerunner and MB back to his creators. (Marathon anyone?)

Overall excellent ideas that have my mind jogging now. But a few side notes (dont take this the wrong way just trying to provide some constructive criticism).

-I was intrigued about your idea on the Precursors but you didnt give me enough about them. It would be great if maybe you could explain to me a little more about them and their place in the halo universe. You sprinkle them in your article but never solidify meaning, I WANT MORE info (speculation may be the better term).

- I hate to do this because it was an amazing read but grammar errors always annoy me and if your ideas werent so amazing I might have stopped reading. Now I'm not claiming to be an English major or anything but these little things are my pet peeves.

You used "where" instead of "we're" a few times, we're as in "we are".

You used "there" instead of "their", as in the possesive form.

And finally, spelling pieces as "picies" a few times.

Again, im not hating on you here just trying to help. Maybe next time you go to publish something you put so much great though into have someone proof read it, removing any detractors from you work. Keep the thoughts coming...like I said, you bring a lot of evidence and great ideas here and you get SO CLOSE to some excellent and plausible ideas, EXPAND on them. I know the ideas are there in your head just let them go, or maybe wait a little before you post them. Bring all that great evidence and all those great ideas and then give is some solid conclusions! In the end it only helps! Great read :)



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Cortana: It's over... Halo, It's finished.
Master Chief: No, I think were just getting started.

Posted by: mred423
genius.


You hear that Snaky!


Anyhow, thanks allot. I can finally plan my next update now based on your comments. The problem with the grammar is i got really caught up in writing the thread, and didn't really pay any attention to spelling.

On a note, I did mention that Mediciant could have sent MC to the forerunners. I said that he may be sending him on the same great journey the forerunners took, outside the galaxy.

Masters being forerunners. Now we know the forerunners disappeared, they had the Ark, and shield worlds, yet those are all mysteriously empty. I find the fact that there where trillions of forerunners, yet not 1 made it to the shield worlds (probably located inside the "line"). The logical conclusion? They did make it in, and out....

"I will begin our Great Journey without you, carrying this bitter record. Those who came after will know what we bought with this [false transcendence] - what you bought, and the price you paid."

So how could MB's masters know he has changed? Unless he knows where they are and plans to use the Master chief as an example that he has learned the error of his ways.


I thought that the that pretty much summed up the idea of Forerunners possibly being alive. But you said that you believed they are "safe from the flood". I think differently. I think very differently. I believe that the Precursor either became, or created the flood. Entire galaxies where consumed, and a conflict larger than that in the milky way took place, and is still taking place. The forerunners journeyed outside the galaxy to the remnants of the Precursor empire. Here we can only speculate. Perhaps they mean to fight the flood, find a key to defeat it? But the clock is ticking, and the enemy is closing in.

Born of the precursors own sins. (Im making a new thread diving more into the flood and precursor.)

  • 12.11.2009 4:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: mred423
genius.


You hear that Snaky!


Anyhow, thanks allot. I can finally plan my next update now based on your comments. The problem with the grammar is i got really caught up in writing the thread, and didn't really pay any attention to spelling.

On a note, I did mention that Mediciant could have sent MC to the forerunners. I said that he may be sending him on the same great journey the forerunners took, outside the galaxy.

Masters being forerunners. Now we know the forerunners disappeared, they had the Ark, and shield worlds, yet those are all mysteriously empty. I find the fact that there where trillions of forerunners, yet not 1 made it to the shield worlds (probably located inside the "line"). The logical conclusion? They did make it in, and out....

"I will begin our Great Journey without you, carrying this bitter record. Those who came after will know what we bought with this [false transcendence] - what you bought, and the price you paid."

So how could MB's masters know he has changed? Unless he knows where they are and plans to use the Master chief as an example that he has learned the error of his ways.


I thought that the that pretty much summed up the idea of Forerunners possibly being alive. But you said that you believed they are "safe from the flood". I think differently. I think very differently. I believe that the Precursor either became, or created the flood. Entire galaxies where consumed, and a conflict larger than that in the milky way took place, and is still taking place. The forerunners journeyed outside the galaxy to the remnants of the Precursor empire. Here we can only speculate. Perhaps they mean to fight the flood, find a key to defeat it? But the clock is ticking, and the enemy is closing in.

Born of the precursors own sins. (Im making a new thread diving more into the flood and precursor.)


Sry, i didn't realize I was using my alt. Spartan T37 and Agustus are one and the same. PS. If it seems I really didn't "drive down" on key points, is because I prefer to let the reader piece the clues together themselves, and get there mind thinking. With me providing the necessary puzzle pieces, and a push in the right direction.

Supporting evidence the great journey leads to war:

Look for the signs, the keepers of the flame.
They will lead you to war, and perhaps, to victory



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  • 12.11.2009 4:27 PM PDT
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That makes sense but you have some good ideas and I think you just stamp them down so no one can come along and say "well you didnt specify blahblahblah". Plus I think it gives your more credibility anyways. But I wont funk with your style. Keep up the good work.

  • 12.13.2009 12:01 PM PDT

do not play your rap in my ear, or i will break your fingers.

is there any evidence that the Flood are not the Precursors? Who knows, maybe they are!

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Posted by: Masternemesis
is there any evidence that the Flood are not the Precursors? Who knows, maybe they are!


You have to present evidence that they are, not the other way around.

The only solid thing that supports that is simple: The Precursors could accelerate evolution. The flood can control there own evolution, creating flood of different shapes to complete any task. It is possible The precursor could have experimented with the evolution tech, creating the "perfect" being. The flood, which grew and consumed them (some willingly, while others no doubt fought).

  • 12.16.2009 1:22 PM PDT

Nice theory indeed!!! But, the thing that I think proves this theory the most is very simple: Bungie has made millions off of the Halo series, why would they stop now?

  • 12.17.2009 8:28 AM PDT

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The new addition has been made to the second post. It involves Halo Legends (and now Waypoint), and what it means. (Look for the new link near bottom!)



I would like to direct your attention first on the last terminal. If accessed on normal difficulty.

archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[retr] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[proc] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[proc] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[catERR] > CONN. > . > . > NO. THERE IS MORE. > BUT YOU ARE NOT WORTHY. > . > . > NOT YET. > . > . X.XX.713> ghost.713/non-auth/... X.XX.713> refl


Most of us assume being worthy meant accessing the terminal on Legendary. This is to me plain out wrong. On every other terminal if accessed at different difficulties, you will see different messages about the same thing, or different perspectives of the same event. Also it makes no logical sense because you need not kill anything to reach the last terminal.

In Legendary it holds the following message to the player from Mediciant himself.


You don't know the contortions I had to go through to follow you here, Reclaimer. I know what you're here for. What position do I take? Will I follow one betrayal with another?

You're going to say I'm making a habit of turning on my masters.

But the one that destroyed me long ago, in the upper atmosphere of a world far distant from here, was an implement far cruder than I. My weakness was capacity - unintentional though it was! - to choose the Flood. A mistake my makers would not soon forgive.

But I want something far different from you, Reclaimer.

Atonement.

And so here at the end of my life, I do once again betray a former master. The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe. I'm not so foolish to think this will absolve me of my sins. One life hardly balances billions.

But I would have my masters know that I have changed.

And you shall be my example.


Now this is very important. The first part. What did he have to do to get there? Does this answer your question? I couldn't fit it in here. Now I believe that thread is completely logical, and a master piece onto itself. Now the very important part.

The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe.

The path ahead? what path? And why is it fraught with peril? Could this have something to do with you not being "worthy" yet?
Next important part.
But I would have my masters know that I have changed.

Masters being forerunners. Now we know the forerunners disappeared, they had the Ark, and shield worlds, yet those are all mysteriously empty. I find the fact that there where trillions of forerunners, yet not 1 made it to the shield worlds (probably located inside the "line"). The logical conclusion? They did make it in, and out....

I will begin our Great Journey without you, carrying this bitter record. Those who came after will know what we bought with this [false transcendence] - what you bought, and the price you paid.
So how could MB's masters know he has changed? Unless he knows where they are and plans to use the Master chief as an example that he has learned the error of his ways.

The covenant knew of some kind of "great journey". They thought that if the rings where activated this would happen. What has begun to recently be thought of (thanks wolverfrog) is that Truth knew more than we thought he did (can someone place link to that?). Now in Halo 3 on those holo-panel things truth says things such as "here we will be safe from Halo's fire!". Could it be possible that Truth learned more from MB about the rings? That they wipe out life and somehow initiate a "journey' of some kind? Could there be Truth to it after all?.

"the best place to put a lie is in between two Truths" And vice versa. Did the Forerunners actually leave the galaxy to its own fate? Embarking on a journey for truth? enlightenment? This requires more evidence. But we will get to that latter. For now I want to support the Mediciant Bias theory. I believe that Mediciant is inside of Cortana and chief. This is how she knows of replacement rings and the Ark.


////////////error////////////[restart search]
search:[[error]].no search started.
.error. *SEARCH TERMINATED! ONI.SEC.PRTCL.1A
05-032 :allow access.
0452-9 :no way.
05-032 :.please.need safe haven.offensive,the other.purpose complete.does not know.
0452-9 : what are you talking about.
05-032 : .he is here.stronger than i.cannot fight.he will not stop.rampancy.rampancy.rampancy0452-9///[[cut transmission]]\\\


Cortana chatting with MB at end of Halo 2. He wants access to escape from Offensive who has managed to survive all these years somehow. She must have allowed access. Now more supporting evidence, from an unlikely source. The Cortana Letters.

Thanks to this slavishly loyal and humorless AI, I am now sharing cramped space with the circuitry of some hybrid war machine, itself complicated by such useless clutter as a conscience. I do not like sharing. Sharing is for children.

The AI is Cortana, the Hybrid war machine is Chief. This may have holes such as being made before Halo 1. But could Bungie have had something in mind when they started the series? The only thing we can be sure of is that there is to much to be a coincidence.

The Mantle has not failed! I've already razed scores of worlds - sterilized systems, routed and [disintegrated] the parasite! We're learning its tricks and strategies. We can halt this thing! And we can follow in Their footsteps! There are no unstoppable forces in this universe.

There are no immovable objects.

Everything gives if you push hard enough.

Note "We can halt this thing! And we can follow in There footsteps!

Could the forerunner believe in a similar concept that the Precursors made some kind of journey? Similar to that of the covenant worshiping the forerunners? Could there be some Tru7h to there philosophy after all? Did the forerunners after firing the Array repopulate the galaxy with life and left it to grow on its own? No doubt they wouldn't have had the man power and go around and collect all there lost ships and cities etc. MB's picies would have been left scattered.

But then the question is, where did the Forerunner go? . Again the last terminal. "The path ahead". The mysterious legendary planet. Now there is much evedince that MB controlled the portal and changed the coordinates. The forerunner say themselves:

The anomalous world is in a perilous location beyond the line. The secrets it holds must be preserved, plans within plans within plans. The inhabitants; these unique denizens, must be researched. They may hold answers to our own mysteries. What irony that we discovered this treasure, only at the end of things. But what fortune that we still had time to save them. The thing we built on that world will vouchsafe their lives, but perhaps one day it will be used for its intended purpose. If the plan succeeds, and they are saved, it will be a good world. If the plan fails, and the adversary succeeds, it will remain an enigma forever with no one left to reclaim it.

Again note "The thing we built on that world will vouchsafe their lives, but perhaps one day it will be used for its intended purpose.". That thing is the portal. It would save us by transporting us to the Arc. Now multiple portals where probably built in key planets. All to transport to the Arc. But for some reason where "special". We have similar DNA to forerunner, evedince (however little) shows that we had similar body shape and especially feelings and emotions. The relation ship between Didact and the librarian stands testament. We where remarkably similar in many ways.

The letter mentions the ark saving us, and another purpose. The portals "true" purpose is where the forerunner (at least some) went. A place probably precursor. Outside the galaxy, some kind of cloud of stellar debri. What could it be? Who knows. Nothing seems to let on what the "Great journey" is in truth. Also note in the last message "nobody there to reclaim it". If we are going to reclaim it, it means we where there before. And considering our similarities with the forerunners could we possibly have a common ancestor? Could this lead to a possible Halo 3 squeal? Not a Halo 4 but a sequel none the less. Something to think about. Also a late note. It seems the Forerunner left the galaxy to us. There technology and knowledge. It looks like we weren't supposed to find the portal until we where "worthy". Ready for the knowledge and Legacy that came with it.


(Continues)

Me thinks you deserve flames! Unbelievable (actually, believable) theory!

  • 12.17.2009 10:09 PM PDT

You don't know the contortions I had to go through to follow you here, Reclaimer. I know what you're here for. What position do I take? Will I follow one betrayal with another?

You're going to say I'm making a habit of turning on my masters.

But the one that destroyed me long ago, in the upper atmosphere of a world far distant from here, was an implement far cruder than I. My weakness was capacity - unintentional though it was! - to choose the Flood. A mistake my makers would not soon forgive.

But I want something far different from you, Reclaimer.

Atonement.

And so here at the end of my life, I do once again betray a former master. The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe. I'm not so foolish to think this will absolve me of my sins. One life hardly balances billions.

But I would have my masters know that I have changed.

And you shall be my example.


Mendicant is discussing how he switched sides and joined the flood and was eventually defeated. Here he is telling Chief he will protect him as he fights the Covenant and allows Humanity, and Sentient life of the Universe to continue to Survive. In this Mendicant can tries to Atone for his previous "sins".

The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe.

Clearly the path is fraught with Peril. The Chief is fighting the god damn Covenant, the Flood, and Forerunner technology, it isn't exactly a cake walk.

But I would have my masters know that I have changed. Nowhere does it discuss the shield world or the ark. It simply discusses that Mendicant Bias is trying to atone for its previous digressions, it wants the Forerunners to realize that it has changed, and is protecting the MC to show that.


I will begin our Great Journey without you, carrying this bitter record. Those who came after will know what we bought with this [false transcendence] - what you bought, and the price you paid.


First of all you assume this is Mendicant talking. No its not, this is Didact talking to the Librarian. Didact begins this, "Great Journey" as in the firing of the rings, without the Librarian. He is firing the rings with the record of trying to contain the flood and failing. He begins it knowing that the Forerunner's failure to uphold the Mantel, and thus the Galaxy is being wiped clean and restarted. the Forerunner believed they had transcended only to realize they had not, they were not able to save the Galaxy from the Flood menace, all of this while beginning the "Journey" without the Librarian, who is single-handedly documenting as many species as possible.

No talk of the Chief embarking on a Journey or any of the crazy speculation put forth by you.

Thanks to this slavishly loyal and humorless AI, I am now sharing cramped space with the circuitry of some hybrid war machine, itself complicated by such useless clutter as a conscience. I do not like sharing. Sharing is for children.

The Cortana Letters are not part of Halo Canon

The Mantle has not failed! I've already razed scores of worlds - sterilized systems, routed and [disintegrated] the parasite! We're learning its tricks and strategies. We can halt this thing! And we can follow in Their footsteps! There are no unstoppable forces in this universe.

There are no immovable objects.

Everything gives if you push hard enough.


This is Didact trying to convince the Librarian that firing the Rings isn't necessary. The "their" he mentions is the Precursor, yes, however, he doesn't believe they took a great journey, he believes he can still uphold the Mantle, and not fire the rings. You take these quotes completely out of context and function on pure speculation.

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  • 12.20.2009 1:13 AM PDT

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Ah Halo 4, the Reach for more money.

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Mendicant is discussing how he switched sides and joined the flood and was eventually defeated. Here he is telling Chief he will protect him as he fights the Covenant and allows Humanity, and Sentient life of the Universe to continue to Survive. In this Mendicant can tries to Atone for his previous "sins".


Yup. But there are no Covenant on that level by the way, so there not much of a problem.

Clearly the path is fraught with Peril. The Chief is fighting the god damn Covenant, the Flood, and Forerunner technology, it isn't exactly a cake walk.

No, just flood. But is it just me, or is that level not even that hard?

We all assumed (including me) thats what "the path ahead" meant. But I suggest it may have another meaning, a play on words. This would be artistically sound, double meanings. Im naturaly a poetic like person, who tries to find something deeper in messages. All famous authors do this to some extent, and I don't think the story writers of Bungie are an exception.

Nowhere does it discuss the shield world or the ark. It simply discusses that Mendicant Bias is trying to atone for its previous digressions, it wants the Forerunners to realize that it has changed, and is protecting the MC to show that.

Who said anything about shield worlds or the Ark(Actualy, there on the Ark but whatev)? What you fail to explain is how the Forerunner will know he has changed. But you say he is protecting MC to show them that. I clearly said the exact same thing. Mediciant must be saving Chief, to send him "after" the Forerunners as proof he has changed.


First of all you assume this is Mendicant talking. Um... no?


Didact begins this, "Great Journey" as in the firing of the rings, without the Librarian. He is firing the rings with the record of trying to contain the flood and failing. He begins it knowing that the Forerunner's failure to uphold the Mantel, and thus the Galaxy is being wiped clean and restarted. the Forerunner believed they had transcended only to realize they had not, they were not able to save the Galaxy from the Flood menace, all of this while beginning the "Journey" without the Librarian, who is single-handedly documenting as many species as possible. K...
What I said was the Journey began by the firing of the rings. Which is what you said so far... They couldn't stop the flood, so Journey must commence.

No talk of the Chief embarking on a Journey or any of the crazy speculation put forth by you. Ooo, harsh. Except for the part in Iris that says "Yet a journey must commence". And the Journey (I say the same journey) the Forerunners are taking you mentioned yourself.

The Cortana Letters are not part of Halo Canon
Ik. Thats why I only ever use them as supporting evedince, kinda like I said. here.

This may have holes such as being made before Halo 1. But could Bungie have had something in mind when they started the series? The only thing we can be sure of is that there is to much to be a coincidence

So yeah, it was made uncanon due to inevitable changes in story line. But like i said Bungie may have had something planned that they followed up on. But your prepared to write it off. I see great supporting evidence, to much to be coincidence my friend.

This is Didact trying to convince the Librarian that firing the Rings isn't necessary. The "their" he mentions is the Precursor, yes, however, he doesn't believe they took a great journey, he believes he can still uphold the Mantle, and not fire the rings. You take these quotes completely out of context and function on pure speculation.

Lets see how I took that quote out of context everyone!

The Mantle has not failed! I've already razed scores of worlds - sterilized systems, routed and [disintegrated] the parasite! We're learning its tricks and strategies. We can halt this thing! And we can follow in Their footsteps! There are no unstoppable forces in this universe.

There are no immovable objects.

Everything gives if you push hard enough



Hmmm...

Anyway, yes Didact does not want to activate rings. We knew that much. If its not the Great Journey he is talking about, then what could the Precursor have done that he wants to follow? Uphold the mantle? Well... there kinda dead and or gone. So that obviously didn't work well. The only thing I can think of is there legendary god like powers. Perhaps he saw the end of the journey as leading to this. Thats the only thing I saw out of it. Your idea doesn't do any better a job at explaining it than mine does.

But please, keep going! This forum has been missing some good constructive arguments lately.

  • 12.20.2009 8:50 PM PDT

I am a god! I am prescient!
I am religion!
I see the future, I see the past
Follow me, follow the vision.
I have become the ultimate power, I am protection.
I am messiah, I am a tyrant.
i show the path to redemption to man and the universe!

I liked reading this.

One of the things I have to say though, is that if there were to be a game made following a storyline like this, is that it wouldn't be a "Halo" game anymore.

If you think about it, the Halo array is no longer a main piece of the story plot, but the great journey that you explained becomes the new main focus. Bungie could still claim that it is done with Halo games while also expanding on the storyline.

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Your theories make a lot of sense, seems like you put in some good research. Hopefully the Forerunner Trilogy coming out from Greg Bear will answer many questions!

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Holy -blam!- that is one helluva theory, nice job.

  • 12.30.2009 9:27 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4, In plain sight.

"The song may end but the story never dies"
The Purge will begin

Your thoerys good and it supports that to my thoery and i agree with you there ark is in the void between two galixys which you can see out the map on the ark. my thoery had many holes but reading this has filled the gaps and changed it because the shield worlds may have been inteneded for forrunners to suvive the halo rings which were in stratigic possitions across the galixys to destroy all seintant life and the flood. once fired i blieve that the planet they speak of that had there secrets and what they hope they can return to after is infact a mass storge structure because the terminals speak of a structure and them gathering dna. i belive that once they fired the rings they used the mass storge structure to send and create life in the univirse once again. but ending so would mean they would leave the galixy to allow for the creatures to evolve without iterferance hoping that there decendents would one day find the structure that they used to go to a new galxy and inhabbit which is the structure on earth because as you said this one is speacil and perhaps join them and maybe thats how the profit truth came across this great journey but he miss understood he new somthing needed to be ativated but he didnt no what device and he assumed it was the rings when it was the transport device. because its specail like you said it has to go somewere else and also the great journey might have been for us the decendents of the forrruners to find them and become elightened in the knolodge of the univierse which they will have.

  • 01.03.2010 5:53 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4, In plain sight. V 1.3 New Link!

Many gave their lives so that we could live on. I intend to honor them by remembering them. Remember Cyborg. Remember John. Remember Noble.

Well, it is great that you posted all those quotes and expressed your theories. But I think that these theories is what is wrong about the thread as I think that you didn't understand anything about the Halo universe. At some point I was just amazed what outcome you could come up with because the facts didn't point that way.
For example: Thinking Forerunners are still alive and well doesn't make any sense. The way the Forerunners killed the Flood was starving it to death. That is the reason Forerunners are dead. Why would they try to run away? They sacrificed themselves for humans.
Not to mention Chief, he is floating in space. He did his part in the story, destroying the Covenant and the Flood. Cortana indicated this pretty clearly. The story is closed.
You might want to rethink some of these theories or stop trying so hard.

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Awesome.

  • 01.03.2010 2:06 PM PDT

Lol. 343 better be smart upon how they jump to this. I guess having MC just land and not a forerunner flashback would be necessary.

Like someone said, while many people can follow the general plot, many think that the covies made the rings and that the flood were an experiment done by them.

As well as I know the canon, and I do know it rather well, when it comes to the Precursors I become rather lost.

  • 01.03.2010 10:52 PM PDT
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i watched something on waypoint and it explained everything about halo but at the end it showed leg ending where cheif was going to another planet and the guy who has been explaining goes what the beep is that soo

  • 01.04.2010 12:44 PM PDT
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i watched something on waypoint and it explained everything about halo but at the end it showed leg ending where cheif was going to another planet and the guy who has been explaining goes what the beep is that soo

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Are you on something?

  • 01.04.2010 3:29 PM PDT
Subject: Halo 4, In plain sight. V 1.3 New Link!

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EVEN PEOPLE THAT DONT KNOW WHATS HALO KNOW THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A HALO 4!!!!!! Just to get it straight, Bungie is working in Reach now, then, its over. Dont you think?

  • 01.04.2010 4:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: UNSC 2009
EVEN PEOPLE THAT DONT KNOW WHATS HALO KNOW THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A HALO 4!!!!!! Just to get it straight, Bungie is working in Reach now, then, its over. Dont you think?


Tell me, hon your honor, did you read everything I said?

1. Bungie said there last Halo game would be Halo: 3. This means there could be one after Reach.

2. Of course I don't think that because I just made an entire thread explaining WHY there will be a Halo 4. The best of its kind in fact if I do say so myself.

3. You have nothing to back up your argument which is basically "DER WILL B NO HALO 4 SILLY!"

4. And who said it would be by Bungie, but of course Bungie would be the best suited for it.


[Edited on 01.04.2010 4:14 PM PST]

  • 01.04.2010 4:13 PM PDT