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Subject: Halo 4, In plain sight. V 1.3 New Link!
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I was about to say that you have created a theory around the terminals, and that fits them all. However, it may not be the case, as the terminals were all to do with bungies marathon series, so it may not be the case.

Also, I don't think ANYBODY would work out your theory even if it is correct, even bungie.

"Dead" Spartans and meeting the forerunners sounds cool, but remember when battling 343 guilty spark in level Halo before he enters a rampant state he says to johnson "You are forerunner" which kinda makes your theory even more complicated.

Id love it, but it won't happen.

Sorry

Pretty much my point, but the OP will probably come in here and start -blam!-ing.



-BLAM!-

Happy?

And yes it is complicated, I think I realized that. And who said anything about dead Spartans?, thats a different thread.

"You are Forerunner" thing supports my theory, not the other way around. If you fully read everything I said and understood it, you would see it fits perfectly. Its the only explanation to why the Forerunner would leave us, with the capacity to reclaim there empire. Thus the link to Wolverfrogs theory stating we may be Precursor.

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Great read, and with 343 industrys hinting at a Halo game involving 343 Guilty Spark, I suspect that we will know if this is right or not soon enough...

  • 01.19.2010 5:23 PM PDT
Subject: Halo 4, In plain sight.

Keep digging friend for i shall call you halodamus

  • 01.20.2010 1:47 PM PDT

What if what we refer to as "Shield Worlds" are, in fact, "Waypoints" to be followed on a certain course (Path) that will eventually lead to a final destination and enlightenment.

Maybe this course or Path is what the Prophets mistook for the firing of the Halo's as the Forerunners disappeared after the Halo's were fired and the galaxy re-seeded.

Each Shield world should, in theory, contain a portal that can be directed to the next shield world, and then the next and the next, and so on...

The only evidence of this shield/portal theory is Onyx. And Harvest (as seen in Halo Wars) could be the map room for all the shield worlds.

Just a theory... but it seems to fit somehow.

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What if what we refer to as "Shield Worlds" are, in fact, "Waypoints" to be followed on a certain course (Path) that will eventually lead to a final destination and enlightenment.

Maybe this course or Path is what the Prophets mistook for the firing of the Halo's as the Forerunners disappeared after the Halo's were fired and the galaxy re-seeded.

Each Shield world should, in theory, contain a portal that can be directed to the next shield world, and then the next and the next, and so on...

The only evidence of this shield/portal theory is Onyx. And Harvest (as seen in Halo Wars) could be the map room for all the shield worlds.

Just a theory... but it seems to fit somehow.


You may be on the right track. I suspect the answer, if this thread is correct, will be something similar. There are a few wild cars with Halo that may have something to do with this.

The Harvest map room purpose is one.
The "Key" referred to in the Halo Wars time line, as well as the Key of Osalon (I think). The later was a ruse, but what if it had some truth to it? Ackerson had data on the Forerunner, most of it being unknown to us at this point.

But then on this path, there are keepers. Perhaps AI's/monitors? Or Forerunner themselves? What is almost certain is that this path will at one point become Precursor, or lead to a Precursor location.

If you ask me I can already guess the answer to the flood, and how it can be ultimately defeated. I would be money on it seeing as it only seems logical.

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yes but what is the hint in the legendary ending? is it some sort of forrunner planet of there ancient decendents ? or mabey a covenent planet can somone please message me to explain?

  • 01.27.2010 4:48 PM PDT
Subject: Halo 4, In plain sight. V 1.3 New Link!

Many gave their lives so that we could live on. I intend to honor them by remembering them. Remember Cyborg. Remember John. Remember Noble.

You just don't get it at all! What you are doing is telling us somebody is going to do something by over-thinking what he told you. I'll tell you when the lunch is and you'll find out that I am the murderer! At least gather up facts, but don't make any conclusions, because you clearly suck at it.

There isn't going to be Halo 4, Bungie has made this very clear and there even isn't no need for it. The circle is complete and we can just speculate what could have happened to John and Cortana, the UNSC, whatever you can think of.

You should instead focus your mind on the meaning of the Forerunners' sacrifice and John's words: "Wake me... When you need me."

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You just don't get it at all! What you are doing is telling us somebody is going to do something by over-thinking what he told you. I'll tell you when the lunch is and you'll find out that I am the murderer! At least gather up facts, but don't make any conclusions, because you clearly suck at it.


Not according to others. So right now on that statement, your at about a several dozens: 1.

I did gather up many facts. More I believe than any other damn pinned topic in this Forum.


There isn't going to be Halo 4, Bungie has made this very clear and there even isn't no need for it.


Are you sure about that?

The circle is complete
In the tiny milky way perhaps.



and we can just speculate what could have happened to John and Cortana, the UNSC, whatever you can think of.


Isn't that what I did?


You should instead focus your mind on the meaning of the Forerunners' sacrifice


What sacrifice? You obviously didn't even bother to read the entire thread, because there is substantial evidence that they didn't just commit suicide for no apparent reason. They escaped.

and John's words: "Wake me... When you need me."

Pretty straight forward. When something happens... wake him up.

[Edited on 01.30.2010 1:08 PM PST]

  • 01.30.2010 1:06 PM PDT

I did read this but couldn't really understand it. Your really smart. You literally blew my mind. I didnt know there was so much backround info on halo.

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We are all going to get banned aren't we?

The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe.

I think the part "But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe." is a foreshadow to the portal. MB did everything he could to keep it stable for cortanan and master chief, he didn't need the arbiter so he let him go back to earth. But you really nailed it with the newest addition to your second post which was something i was thinking all along. Mendicant bias simply changed the destination right after he sent the arbiter to earth. seeing how AI's can do wonders in less than a second, it isn't a surprise to know that MB has the capacity to do the impossible in a short amount of time.

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.error. *SEARCH TERMINATED! ONI.SEC.PRTCL.1A
05-032 :allow access.
0452-9 :no way.
05-032 :.please.need safe haven.offensive,the other.purpose complete.does not know.
0452-9 : what are you talking about.
05-032 : .he is here.stronger than i.cannot fight.he will not stop.rampancy.rampancy.rampancy0452-9///[[cut transmission]]\\\


Where did you find this at? i never seen this before.

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The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe.

I think the part "But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe." is a foreshadow to the portal. MB did everything he could to keep it stable for cortanan and master chief, he didn't need the arbiter so he let him go back to earth. But you really nailed it with the newest addition to your second post which was something i was thinking all along. Mendicant bias simply changed the destination right after he sent the arbiter to earth. seeing how AI's can do wonders in less than a second, it isn't a surprise to know that MB has the capacity to do the impossible in a short amount of time.

////////////error////////////[restart search]
search:[[error]].no search started.
.error. *SEARCH TERMINATED! ONI.SEC.PRTCL.1A
05-032 :allow access.
0452-9 :no way.
05-032 :.please.need safe haven.offensive,the other.purpose complete.does not know.
0452-9 : what are you talking about.
05-032 : .he is here.stronger than i.cannot fight.he will not stop.rampancy.rampancy.rampancy0452-9///[[cut transmission]]\\\


Where did you find this at? i never seen this before.


A mod asked me this already, The answer is simple: I have no damn idea.

I was cruising Halopedia I believe, and on a random page that was located. I haven't been able to rediscover it though. So who knows if its credible.

:/

  • 02.04.2010 12:39 PM PDT
Subject: Halo 4, In plain sight.

Posted by: iisainfidel
i watched something on waypoint and it explained everything about halo but at the end it showed leg ending where cheif was going to another planet and the guy who has been explaining goes what the beep is that soo


That was IGN's "Halo in 5 Minutes."

It was cool, but it just summed everything up so far. Didn't really give much info into the whole story.

I personally am tired of Halo 4 Theories. We need to just get over it. The MC is done, bringing him back for a pointless game would just make me mad!

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I would have to agree. Impressive analytical skills there!

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Posted by: iisainfidel
i watched something on waypoint and it explained everything about halo but at the end it showed leg ending where cheif was going to another planet and the guy who has been explaining goes what the beep is that soo


That was IGN's "Halo in 5 Minutes."

It was cool, but it just summed everything up so far. Didn't really give much info into the whole story.

I personally am tired of Halo 4 Theories. We need to just get over it. The MC is done, bringing him back for a pointless game would just make me mad!


Who said pointless? Did you read the thread?

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i agree with your statement but if you spent the game hunting the remainders of the Covenant then that would make for a fairly dry game, story-wise. There would be the innevitable Halo twist but that twist would have to be a new enemy, what enemies would they have left to fight? or would they create a new one (i have not read the Halo books so i don't know if there are other threats to civilization such as the flood). if you spend too much time just hunting specific targets then i think it has Danger of turning into an RPG, i completely agree that people would be confused with Forerunners and Precursors. I think that Bungie in it's next game (let's hope) should abandon the ODST health pack feature, that made the game a little more challenging, but that heart rat noise is just annoying.

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i agree with your statement but if you spent the game hunting the remainders of the Covenant then that would make for a fairly dry game, story-wise. There would be the innevitable Halo twist but that twist would have to be a new enemy, what enemies would they have left to fight? or would they create a new one (i have not read the Halo books so i don't know if there are other threats to civilization such as the flood). if you spend too much time just hunting specific targets then i think it has Danger of turning into an RPG, i completely agree that people would be confused with Forerunners and Precursors. I think that Bungie in it's next game (let's hope) should abandon the ODST health pack feature, that made the game a little more challenging, but that heart rat noise is just annoying.


If you read Evolutions, its quite clear that the former Covenant factions are still a huge threat. Also an enemy could be the flood, rogue sentinels, other species in the galaxy we have yet to encounter, etc.

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Fair enough, i did say that i haven't read any of the books, so i'm no expert

  • 02.25.2010 3:42 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4, In plain sight. V 1.5 Origins update

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Great theories there. I didn't have time to read all 9 pages tonight but I will continue in the morning. But I have a thought to add some fuel to your fire.

If you've studied the Marathon series, specifically the third game, Marathon Infinity. The game is not so linear as the player is switching between time and alternate realities throughout the story. Now could Chief have ended up in a different time? I think it is entirely possible. I know the ark is there at the end of H3. Cortana makes that clear. A very damaged ark (or parts of the ark) could have been sucked into the portal and have traveled through time with the Chief or maybe they are witnessing the construction of the ark, thus it appearing to be damaged as Cortona says at the end of H3. You mentioned in the Cortona letters that she mentions a fourth. It just so happens that time is theorized to be the fourth dimension.



With this theory it is possible that the Forerunner world seen in the legendary cut scene will be inhabited by a much more primitive species of forerunner; that we went back in time before the halos before the ark before the flood. Our introduction to them could be less than glorious. They could very well be plagued by war and disease like the humans. Perhaps the reason there are forerunner constructs on earth is because they saw similarities between earth and themselves. They hoped that the humans would be able to make better use of their technology than they could. I am not saying we are witnessing ancient civilization here, rather the period just before the dawn of the halos. I am saying before the flood perhaps, just perhaps the forerunner were not a united species, but divided with war much like we are. Perhaps we will witness their union against the flood, the creation of the halos? Or perhaps the planet at the end was the forerunner home world and is now desolate abandoned and consumed by the flood?

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OK, if MB was inside Master Chief, then why did Cortana begin to go into Rampancy in Halo Legends and file a report on history, and even better, how did she know about what happened to the forerunners back then, she could not have possibly knew. And another thing, Cortana said they made it through the portal and that the Arbiter did not, which was not true... they went somewhere totally different, but they were part of the same frigate the Arbiter was on.

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OK, if MB was inside Master Chief, then why did Cortana begin to go into Rampancy in Halo Legends and file a report on history, and even better, how did she know about what happened to the forerunners back then, she could not have possibly knew. And another thing, Cortana said they made it through the portal and that the Arbiter did not, which was not true... they went somewhere totally different, but they were part of the same frigate the Arbiter was on.


1.Cortana wasn't going rampant in legends, she was already rampant in halo 2/3 and from what we know AIs can't go rampant twice. Ether it was purely for the videos, a power source is failing, or she is reaching another stage, or something else..

2.everything cortana said we already knew, the only difference is that we saw it in action, which was for the sake of the video, or that video itself was in installation 4's logs.

3. when did she say the arbiter didn't make it throughout the portal? i don't remember anything like that or the word "Arbiter" being said during any part of origins.

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On the rampancy note, it makes sense that she can go through it twice. The first time, it was due to an outside source (Gravemind), which was speeding up the process. That outside interference was removed, thus Cortana being able to become stable once more. Now with the passage of time, her code should be "naturally" having problems associated with rampancy, and so on.

Though it is my belief that Cortana, using the raw data she obtained from Alpha Halo, the Gravemind, MB, and brief exposure to the Ark, she has some seriously valuable Intel inside her. Some of it may hold the key to how Forerunner AI's lasted 100,000 years in almost perfect condition.

Using that data she can possibly slow down her rampancy rate ten fold.

The power failure seems unlikely, seeing as how there should be at least one nuclear based power source on that section of the ship (especially if theres any kind of engines or thrusters). Along with numerous batteries.

  • 02.26.2010 3:34 PM PDT

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The Legendary Planet also has the possibility of being a Precursor rainbow world. Origins shows that they have been there for quite some time. It even shows that Cortana's got a little MB in her, if that's even possible. It could even explain why she is experiencing rampancy. Two AI in one data crystal ship. That would be amazing if he took a ride along with Cortana and Chief. Although I would not be able to explain how would get to them. There's also the idea that Cortana is full of Forerunner data,

Great read! Great ideas!

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Wow, this is a seriously heated debate. I didn't realise that was a planet when i completed it on Legendary, i thought that was another Halo.

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