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Subject: Halo: Reach....leave it to the professionals

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Posted by: z0rgy
because you start with it. that's the problem.

in H2, a noob woud NEVER beat a pro with a br.
in H3, any noob can rush to a pro, spray bullets and press B and kill him. easily.

and I'm talking of halo 3's campaign. it's the shortest in the whole serie and has the less story.


You're funny.

Even at close range, a player with skill and a BR can beat a new player with an AR, you just need to not stand still/backpedal when they rush you.

I agree with you on H3's story, however.

  • 08.15.2009 12:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: z0rgy
I sure as hell dont.

why?
melee lunge (aka jetpack syndrome)
host based mp (aka super host soldier)
OP AR (it's a STARTING weapon, not a weapon that's supposed to beat every other weapons)
elites getting less stuff or disadvantages
HORRIBLE campaign
HORRIBLY short campaign
and a lot more I can't think of right now.
edit : bad graphics for H3, aliasing, game full of bug with armors glitching. etc.

either listen to fans a bit or co develop a game...

bungie really screwed up with H3. taking out a huge part of the story for texan rednecks that likes halo (the tall green robot, you know. he's called halo) and dont want to play with dinos and noobified the game even more than H2 was...
they'd have to try hard to make a worse game to be honest.


If you ever notice the more the game is played the more bugs are found ad exploited. You're just sucky at Halo so you do the next best thing complain about the little things.

  • 08.15.2009 1:17 PM PDT

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i thought halo ODST was gonna be the next best thing, only cause you are odsts and guess what? ODSTs dont have shields. then bungie gave them some weird adrenaline crap thing that goes out before your health, dumb, stupid, and you may as well call it shields. why even make shields, just make it different spartans :(

  • 08.15.2009 1:22 PM PDT
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It isn't our shiznit anymore.

Posted by: switch 104 sv
Does anyone else agree that the development of the game should be left to Bungie and that any real Halo fan will have faith that they will create a great game? The constant input of terrible suggestions and constant criticism is just annoying and ultimately futile. Leave it to Bungie.


You're right. Bungie should just make their games without any input from the Halo community. Great idea. But seriously, you have to have some bad ideas in order to find the good ideas that Bungie could implement. Would you rather have the community not give Bungie any ideas or would you rather have the community flood Bungie with ideas where some of those ideas are diamonds in the rough.

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I agree they have done a good job so far but it's because they take suggestions, like having less dual wielding and bringing back the ar. I think they should make the game with the intention of giving it the feel that ce had where you weren't a huge juggernaut blowing people away, you were actually in danger. I think they could make the plasma rifle a little more powerful/accurate but it's ultimately up to bungie obviously

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  • 08.15.2009 3:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: switch 104 sv
Does anyone else agree that the development of the game should be left to Bungie and that any real Halo fan will have faith that they will create a great game? The constant input of terrible suggestions and constant criticism is just annoying and ultimately futile. Leave it to Bungie.


Mad Props to you for stating what needed to be said.
Bungie knows what they are doing.
And other individual members of the community, take "Cheehwawa" for example, should shut up and go make their own game instead of telling the Bungle Community how the game should be.
I have no idea who the hell you are but you have obviously had some pent up hate on me for a long time for some reason I don't know. Maybe you just don't know that everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Stop being an elitist.

This forum is for us to theorize about Halo Reach and that may include building threads of gameplay formulas which would be fun. That's why I post what I post here. Because I like variety and options available to everyone. I want to get my ideas heard. I posted a thread on the Halo 3 forum about "Hybrid Armor" where you could customize shoulders, helmets, and chests separately. A few months later, the Halo 3 Beta comes out. When that ends, we learn of armor permutations.

Maybe our ideas are being heard by Bungie. Why don't you think of some and stop criticizing people who actually post stuff in these forums unlike you, who just flames people.

  • 08.15.2009 6:33 PM PDT

thank you! im so sick of all these kids sitting here trying to create a game for bungie. i mean, they did become video game designers and your not. leave it to them. its good to be helpful but to be annoying is another thing.

  • 08.15.2009 8:22 PM PDT

lol

I think the last time I left my complete faith in Bungie, they gave me Halo 2.

  • 08.15.2009 8:23 PM PDT

agreed, the campaign was really short

  • 08.15.2009 10:20 PM PDT

Posted by: z0rgy
because you start with it. that's the problem.


Did you complain about the pistol in Halo CE? You spawned with it quite frequently, and was the most OPed weapon in the game.

in H2, a noob woud NEVER beat a pro with a br.
in H3, any noob can rush to a pro, spray bullets and press B and kill him. easily.


Maybe that "pro" isn't a "pro", then.

and I'm talking of halo 3's campaign. it's the shortest in the whole serie and has the less story.

Halo 3 was the ending of the series. The mysteries sprouted from CE, some were answered in Halo 2 with new ones sprouting, with almost all answers being revealed in Halo 3. It was the wind down game, where you pretty much knew everything there was to know. Halo 3's campaign was still quite excellent, and definitely was not short.

  • 08.15.2009 10:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: switch 104 sv
Does anyone else agree that the development of the game should be left to Bungie and that any real Halo fan will have faith that they will create a great game? The constant input of terrible suggestions and constant criticism is just annoying and ultimately futile. Leave it to Bungie.


Yes I agree, because with all these half witted opinions saying Halo 3 sucks are just what they are opinions. I suggest that everyone who thought anything about Halo 3 (or any of the other Halo's for that matter) look at the fact that it is the most played Xbox Live game, Bungie did it right, now stop complaining. They have been making games for over 15 years, I think they know what is best for the community.

  • 08.15.2009 10:46 PM PDT

I am guessing that adding the BR was a good move?

Frankly, user input can actually be better than what the developers can produce on their own. Because in the end, it is the players that play the game more. And while they might not know the code, they certainly know what is wrong with the game, and what is good with the game.

Suggesting classes is not a stupid thing to do, nor should it just be shot down. Just because other games have classes, doesn't mean Halo will automatically become one of those games.

Although some suggestions are pretty ridiculous. NO, we cannot have 100+ player games. Even though it would be awesome.

Also, shooting down peoples opinion is worse than trying to 'make the game.' Who knows, maybe one day that person will make a video game.

[Edited on 08.15.2009 10:57 PM PDT]

  • 08.15.2009 10:55 PM PDT

Posted by: switch 104 sv
Does anyone else agree that the development of the game should be left to Bungie and that any real Halo fan will have faith that they will create a great game? The constant input of terrible suggestions and constant criticism is just annoying and ultimately futile. Leave it to Bungie.

This one speaks truth. lol

  • 08.15.2009 10:58 PM PDT
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While Bungie listens, I doubt they let any Fan input make a huge impact.

  • 08.15.2009 11:10 PM PDT

I'm sure I'll love it whatever, I'm such a fanboy!

  • 08.16.2009 3:47 AM PDT

I hail from Pittsburgh,
U iznt gonna be gettin' reconz cuz of dis nubo.

I don't even understand why most of you little children are crying about H3 anyway. While you all are eatting your lifes away with fatties and pop; Bungie is out here making a video game that is a world wide phenomenon. You lazy children try and make video games and see what happens.

[Edited on 08.16.2009 4:06 AM PDT]

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Posted by: RStuck3
Overpowered rifle that beats every other weapon? Yup sounds like a battle rifle to me.

Assault-Rush noob who hates weapons that take skill? Yup sounds like RStuck3 to me.

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How about we leave it to the professionals (aka bungie in this case) to judge if the ideas are good or bad, and include them if they like it?

  • 08.16.2009 4:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: z0rgy
because you start with it. that's the problem.

in H2, a noob woud NEVER beat a pro with a br.
in H3, any noob can rush to a pro, spray bullets and press B and kill him. easily.

and I'm talking of halo 3's campaign. it's the shortest in the whole serie and has the less story.


Saying "PRO" makes you a douche bag. Unless the person is getting payed say good player or something similar. Also using the BR doesn't make you pro, it means you were smart enough to stay away from all the broken weapons on map. The BR easily beats the AR outside of melee range and at melee range you can easily simultaneous melee the AR user. The AR and most other weapons are garbage and need to be made versatile.


You do realize that he was talking about actual professional Halo players, like T2 and Walshy, right? He's also absolutely right about what he said. In Halo CE if both a noob and a pro got into a 1v1 with the same weapon, the pro would win every time unless it was a random weapon like a shotgun or rocket.. In Halo 2 the same thing would happen.. In Halo 3 the only weapons that the noob couldn't win with would be Sniper and BR. If he had an AR he would simply trade beatdowns over and over again.

Seeing as how Bungie said they aren't making anymore Halo games after Reach, I think that they should make it like Halo: CE. Their fanbase is built off of Halo: CE and Halo is one of the greatest games ever made, so lots of people obviously liked the original.

  • 08.16.2009 6:28 AM PDT
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Not after the awful weapon balance and overall gameplay balance that plagued Halo 3. I don't want Halo Reach to have a crappy starting weapon like the AR. Besides, how do you think Bungie gets feedback? By reading peoples minds? They need our feedback to see what we want, and then try to incorporate that in some way.

  • 08.16.2009 7:50 AM PDT
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Anyone who is saying (or implying) that Bungie and Halo are perfect, are, frankly, wrong. Halo 3 isn't perfect. This forum is here for us to voice our criticisms about Halo 3, and how it could be fixed in Reach.

I very rarely ever see any proper counter-arguments here. I always see the typical "Well maybe you just suck at Halo" or something stupid like that. Does anyone here even have their own opinions, or do you just adopt whatever opinion that Bungie might have at the time?

  • 08.16.2009 8:07 AM PDT

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