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Subject: Bungie, what are you doing to this franchise?

I'm not one to get on forums, but after seeing odst gameplay I had to. How can you show a odst taking on brutes like they are Master Chief? You are making MC look like just another soldier, instead of the super soldier. Do you not read your own books? When Master Chief was 14 he killed 4 odst soldiers on ACCIDENT! You really are destroying the Halo franchise with this game. There is no way a odst could take on ONE brute by himself, let alone 3 or 4. This still run and gun gameplay will be the downfall of this game. You should have copied the cover system from Gears of War, or made it more of a stealth game like Splinter cell. Please. Tell me how you can do this? You have now made my time playing as Master Chief insignificant.

  • 08.15.2009 3:19 PM PDT

I do not want to catch pregnancy.

It is THEIR franchise.

  • 08.15.2009 3:20 PM PDT
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In my mind, Masterchief died with Halo CE. It has never been the same.

  • 08.15.2009 3:21 PM PDT

Its not like we are fighting them hand to hand. Dont tell them to make it more like other games, or it wouldnt be Halo.
You cant just run and gun, you take way more damage, but dish out as much as MC because you are using the same weapons. Your melee seems weaker though.

  • 08.15.2009 3:21 PM PDT

Hella tight jumper

calm the heck down

  • 08.15.2009 3:21 PM PDT

PwN IZ SiK

Dont buy odst then.

  • 08.15.2009 3:21 PM PDT

I think they are trying out something new other than just being master cheif, are you saying that you would rather to be a REAL ODST and not be able to get past even the first level? Bungie is making halo not totally revolve around master cheif. and i think it is a great idea.

  • 08.15.2009 3:22 PM PDT
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An ODST can kill 1 Brute by himself if he took some cover and fires an amount of his ammo

  • 08.15.2009 3:22 PM PDT
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Now that you clicked, click >>here<<

(Sorry, cool-guy-only link.)

It was obviously on easy mode. Stop your -blam!-ing.

  • 08.15.2009 3:23 PM PDT

You know, Sergeant Johnson is just a marine, yet in "Contact Harvest" he helped lead a team that fought against the brutes on Harvest. Did YOU read the books? Plus! Johnson is in all three games, as a MARINE!, and he can whoop any alien -blam!-

  • 08.15.2009 3:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: Shush
In my mind, Masterchief died with Halo CE. It has never been the same.

Yes, because you only give a crap about Halo 1 and the overpowered M6D Pistol

  • 08.15.2009 3:23 PM PDT

Actually, come to think of it, you really are a lot weaker. When you were MC, you got be shooting and getting shot at by multiple Brutes and the like all at once and still prevail.
From what Ive seen of ODST, if more than a Brute or two and a few Grunts sees you, you dont last long.

  • 08.15.2009 3:24 PM PDT

Go Rams and Missouri!

This is the dumbest thread I have seen in my entire life. You will feel vulnerable as an ODST. Everybody who has played the game has said they felt a lot different, but it still retained the awesome Halo feel. The people who work at Bungie have been saying that they are more proud of ODST than anything else. This game will be great, it's campaign will be rivaling that of Halo 1 and 2 (revealed in this video) and it has Firefight, which will add a long time to the career of ODST.

  • 08.15.2009 3:25 PM PDT

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Look at ODSTs in Halo 3. It takes more ammo than it does to kill a spartan in multiplayer to kill them. I'd say they're being pretty accurate.

  • 08.15.2009 3:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Shush
In my mind, Masterchief died with Halo CE. It has never been the same.

Yes, because you only give a crap about Halo 1 and the overpowered M6D Pistol


No not really. I loved the pistol, and yes, you had to use it to be successful in multiplayer. I am really referring to the campaign. Halo has never captured that feeling again.

  • 08.15.2009 3:26 PM PDT

why are you looking at this?

1. the difficulty in the videos are most likely on easy
2. when video game producers make videos they make the player invincible so they wouldn't accidentally die in the middle of gameplay footage

  • 08.15.2009 3:27 PM PDT
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Wait, you're saying that ODST is killing the Halo franchise by letting ODST feel like the Halo games we all love. And your solution to the problem is to suggest they take the cover or stealth system from a completely different franchise?

Okay. Just wanted to make sure we were on the same page. I'm going to go ahead and flip to the chapter where I tell you that you are taking this waaaaay to seriously and that it's just a game.

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I loved that pistol, the only part of halo3 i don't like is the spartan laser, i say put the lock feature on the rocket launcher again and take that overpowered piece of crap out. But the M6D was way overpowered.. i think even MC would have trouble shooting down a banshee or stopping a warthog with it>.<

  • 08.15.2009 3:28 PM PDT

Posted by: Macaroon
Its not like we are fighting them hand to hand. Dont tell them to make it more like other games, or it wouldnt be Halo.
You cant just run and gun, you take way more damage, but dish out as much as MC because you are using the same weapons. Your melee seems weaker though.

Firstly, what this guy said. You have the same weapons.

Secondly "their own books" were not written by Bungie, they have stated already that although the books should be taken as canon they may decide to ignore or completly alter so called "facts" from the novels. I have seen a lot of posts on these forums that seem to think Halo is a literary series before it is a video game. Bungie can do whatever they want. Their universe, their rules.

Oh and I am 100% sure that the marines and ODSTs in previous Halo games do not get massacered by the first brute or elite they come across. Have you even played a Halo game before?

  • 08.15.2009 3:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: Macaroon
You cant just run and gun, you take way more damage, but dish out as much as MC because you are using the same weapons. Your melee seems weaker though.
Actually, your using improved versions of the same weapons. ODSTs get access to the special armouries of the UNSC that not even Spartans got to.

But yeah, no shield + weaker. I dont see how its the same.

  • 08.15.2009 3:29 PM PDT

Go Rams and Missouri!

Posted by: visorak231
1. the difficulty in the videos are most likely on easy
2. when video game producers make videos they make the player invincible so they wouldn't accidentally die in the middle of gameplay footage

So now, I'm going to flashback in time and play as a guy named Dutch... *Watches cutscene*.

You see, now I have to set all these charges... Lemme just laser a Banshee here and a Wraith, and... Oops... Okay, so here's that cutscene again....

  • 08.15.2009 3:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sonic Blu
I'm not one to get on forums, but after seeing odst gameplay I had to. How can you show a odst taking on brutes like they are Master Chief? You are making MC look like just another soldier, instead of the super soldier. Do you not read your own books? When Master Chief was 14 he killed 4 odst soldiers on ACCIDENT! You really are destroying the Halo franchise with this game. There is no way a odst could take on ONE brute by himself, let alone 3 or 4. This still run and gun gameplay will be the downfall of this game. You should have copied the cover system from Gears of War, or made it more of a stealth game like Splinter cell. Please. Tell me how you can do this? You have now made my time playing as Master Chief insignificant.
That's not true it's not like you can take all the brutes all on at once dude if you actually watched the gamplay

  • 08.15.2009 3:29 PM PDT

Im trying to draw the line on it though. Master Chief is a lot more of a super soldier than a odst. He wears armor that would rip a odst's body apart. Spartans were bred for combat. I see what you are saying but if you look at it logically, this run and gun is not the way to go with a odst.

  • 08.15.2009 3:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: DK daze
Dude I don't care and my grammer is perfect.I used "Big", as you recall it to mak is specific."to not do...",is incorrect beause "do" is present tense/perfect(or future) when it was a past tense.

In the demos, bungie employees are given invincibility so that they don't die in front of all the press people watching.

  • 08.15.2009 3:31 PM PDT

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