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Subject: Bungie, what are you doing to this franchise?

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Posted by: richard58
Posted by: Macaroon
Its not like we are fighting them hand to hand. Dont tell them to make it more like other games, or it wouldnt be Halo.
You cant just run and gun, you take way more damage, but dish out as much as MC because you are using the same weapons. Your melee seems weaker though.

Firstly, what this guy said. You have the same weapons.

Secondly "their own books" were not written by Bungie, they have stated already that although the books should be taken as canon they may decide to ignore or completly alter so called "facts" from the novels. I have seen a lot of posts on these forums that seem to think Halo is a literary series before it is a video game. Bungie can do whatever they want. Their universe, their rules.

Oh and I am 100% sure that the marines and ODSTs in previous Halo games do not get massacered by the first brute or elite they come across. Have you even played a Halo game before?

And the only reason Marines/ODST don't get many kills is because it would be no fun to have every other kill stolen from you. Their AI is meant to avoid death, be smart, but not fire their weapon so much so that the player can get the kills, and the marines can feel like they are support.

  • 08.15.2009 3:31 PM PDT

Halo has always been Master Chief, so by your logic its not Halo. And also Halo has always been a run and gun, so now its going to slow down. So what you are saying makes no sense. And you dont know much about combat. If you gave a US Marine a gun and then a civilian, who would do more damage? The same applies for MC and the Odst

  • 08.15.2009 3:34 PM PDT

I fully agree with you

  • 08.15.2009 3:37 PM PDT

Posted by: Sonic Blu
Halo has always been Master Chief, so by your logic its not Halo. And also Halo has always been a run and gun, so now its going to slow down. So what you are saying makes no sense. And you dont know much about combat. If you gave a US Marine a gun and then a civilian, who would do more damage? The same applies for MC and the Odst

A couple of things. Firstly, yes it will slow down a bit, due to the fact that you cant take that many hits and need to think about a situation before you run in.
And the difference between MC and an ODST is not the same as a marine and a civ. ODST are still highly trained killers. They are accurate, resourceful and tough. Your weapons actually do more damage than the ones MC used aswell.
This is still Halo in the sense that it has the same gameplay and style to it. But now you have to take into account that you cant get hit as much. Your not a bi-pedal tank.
And the reason they dont die in the gameplay demos is because they turn an invincibility cheat on to prevent a death ruining the show.

  • 08.15.2009 3:39 PM PDT

I'm the cult of personality,
I call it like i see it, if i feel the need to be blunt and to the point, then i will, if i feel the need to be very detailed, i will, im here to stay and im here to do things my way, if you respect that or not is your choice, not mine,
and don't worry, while i don't agree with everyone's opinion, i do respect everyone's opinion.

Posted by Sonic Blu
I'm not one to get on forums, but after seeing odst gameplay I had to. How can you show a odst taking on brutes like they are Master Chief? You are making MC look like just another soldier, instead of the super soldier. Do you not read your own books? When Master Chief was 14 he killed 4 odst soldiers on ACCIDENT! You really are destroying the Halo franchise with this game. There is no way a odst could take on ONE brute by himself, let alone 3 or 4. This still run and gun gameplay will be the downfall of this game. You should have copied the cover system from Gears of War, or made it more of a stealth game like Splinter cell. Please. Tell me how you can do this? You have now made my time playing as Master Chief insignificant
get out of here your not making any since its going to be a great game and all you can do is complain? quit trashing this game and enjoy what bungie is giving us instead of complaining about a perfectly good game do you really think bungie is going to mess up the halo franchise? no bungie is just doing what they do best do you want to know what that it is?
there best at making games halo ce was great halo 2 was great halo 3 was great halo 3 odst is going to be great so stop complaining and enjoy the games bungie makes.

[Edited on 08.15.2009 3:52 PM PDT]

  • 08.15.2009 3:40 PM PDT

Im the one who takes it too serious but yet, you took out time to post something letting me know that? Sounds like you are the one whos taking it too serious.

  • 08.15.2009 3:41 PM PDT

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well first play odst before you make outrageous accusations...

  • 08.15.2009 3:41 PM PDT

THEY ARE MAKING MONEY

common sence:

You do something that gets you money, YOU MILK IT FOR ALL YOU CAN

  • 08.15.2009 3:42 PM PDT

Making it better.

  • 08.15.2009 3:44 PM PDT

1.Arkham Asylum, 2.Mass Effect, 3.Halo CE, 4.Mass Effect 2, 5.Halo 2, 6.Splinter Cell Double Agent, 7.Gears of War 2, 8.Medievil, 9.Oblivion, 10.Crash Team Racing

Game > Book. Burn the books. Chief is still "the guy"

  • 08.15.2009 3:45 PM PDT

I'm the cult of personality,
I call it like i see it, if i feel the need to be blunt and to the point, then i will, if i feel the need to be very detailed, i will, im here to stay and im here to do things my way, if you respect that or not is your choice, not mine,
and don't worry, while i don't agree with everyone's opinion, i do respect everyone's opinion.

Posted by Klumpmeister
well first play odst before you make outrageous accusations...

agreed he should play odst before saying anything stupid........ like this

  • 08.15.2009 3:55 PM PDT

Win, or dont even try

first of all, the odst soldiers are between the marines and the spartans, they created the spartans for the reasons there putting in odst. and if anyone here was even a fan of more than just the games, would understand and would love to see the main reason why we play halo, continue to be the star of the franchise, MAster Chief, not some punk wannabe odst. ya it sound like a good idea, but they make it sound like hes better than the spartan, when in fact, there sugarcoating with a black dye, the spartans. 60 bucks worth? halo 3 was. and the IDEA of odst WAS. but watching those videos, shoulda just left em spartans bungie

  • 08.18.2009 2:10 PM PDT

holy -blam!- its just a game

  • 08.18.2009 2:13 PM PDT
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I think the best reply would be a quote from the code of conduct...

"Bungie controls everything. You have no rights. Play nice.'

  • 08.18.2009 2:19 PM PDT

I can haz ur mumz

Posted by: Juggalo Heretic
You know, Sergeant Johnson is just a marine, yet in "Contact Harvest" he helped lead a team that fought against the brutes on Harvest. Did YOU read the books? Plus! Johnson is in all three games, as a MARINE!, and he can whoop any alien -blam!-


Seriously, Seargent Johnson isn't even an ODST and he survived more stuff then masterchief has. When you can see a regular marine own a lot of flood and kill a lot of brutes, then a ODST can definitely do better.

  • 08.18.2009 2:30 PM PDT

I <3 you, Shishka.

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The only time (from what I've gathered) that you'll be fighting more than one or two Brutes at a time is in Firefight, and Firefight is non-canon.

  • 08.18.2009 2:33 PM PDT

I <3 you, Shishka.

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Posted by: Sparta4Ever
Posted by: Juggalo Heretic
You know, Sergeant Johnson is just a marine, yet in "Contact Harvest" he helped lead a team that fought against the brutes on Harvest. Did YOU read the books? Plus! Johnson is in all three games, as a MARINE!, and he can whoop any alien -blam!-


Seriously, Seargent Johnson isn't even an ODST and he survived more stuff then masterchief has. When you can see a regular marine own a lot of flood and kill a lot of brutes, then a ODST can definitely do better.


Also, Sergeant Johnson is a SPARTAN-I.

  • 08.18.2009 2:34 PM PDT

M6D
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Ok i'm going to give an 2 examples on why you are wrong.

Example 1: Resident Evil 4. When the gameplay was changed for this game, people like you who seem to take their games seriously and panic when it changes said the shame crap about it. Same year RE4 one many game of the year awards.

Example 2: Metal Gear Solid 4: Same thing.

When you stop having a narrow view on life, plz feel free to post normal forum threads.

  • 08.18.2009 2:35 PM PDT

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I went Underground!

Posted by: Sonic Blu
Halo has always been Master Chief, so by your logic its not Halo. And also Halo has always been a run and gun, so now its going to slow down. So what you are saying makes no sense. And you dont know much about combat. If you gave a US Marine a gun and then a civilian, who would do more damage? The same applies for MC and the Odst

You're acting like Bungie is making you screaming and kicking to play ODST. No one is forcing you to play the game. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

  • 08.18.2009 2:38 PM PDT

Posted by: Shush
In my mind, Masterchief died with Halo CE. It has never been the same.


Really? Becasue I was playing halo 1 yesterday and I saw a totaly lame, Less inteanse master cheif.

He was totaly awsome in halo 1 but compared to halo 2 and 3. MC in halo 1 was not that great.

  • 08.18.2009 2:42 PM PDT

your not to smart

  • 08.18.2009 2:44 PM PDT

MC's guns don't do more damage just because he is a spartan. It doesn't matter who shoots a rocket a a brute, it's going down.

  • 08.18.2009 2:46 PM PDT
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Disregard.

[Edited on 08.18.2009 2:47 PM PDT]

  • 08.18.2009 2:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sparta4Ever
Posted by: Juggalo Heretic
You know, Sergeant Johnson is just a marine, yet in "Contact Harvest" he helped lead a team that fought against the brutes on Harvest. Did YOU read the books? Plus! Johnson is in all three games, as a MARINE!, and he can whoop any alien -blam!-


Seriously, Seargent Johnson isn't even an ODST and he survived more stuff then masterchief has. When you can see a regular marine own a lot of flood and kill a lot of brutes, then a ODST can definitely do better.


Seargent Johnson is a legit Spartan-III.

  • 08.18.2009 2:49 PM PDT

It's not Hip-Hop, its Electro.... prick.

Dude stop... Your rediculous.

BTW is "BY accident" not "ON accident" dummy

  • 08.18.2009 2:49 PM PDT

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