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Posted by: joey1859
Halo has always been its own unique shooter, Bungie isnt going to make it a mundane shooter like the rest.

Halo 1 and 2 were "mundane shooters" as well by your logic because in their day, more FPSes were not based around classes as they are today. But no, the logic is flawed. Halo was unique because it was Halo, even if it had the same gameplay formula (spawn equal, fight over weapons placed on map)... Halo would still be unique even if it has the same gameplay formula as another batch of games (spawn as a class, fight over key points in the map).

  • 08.16.2009 7:26 PM PDT
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I just dont thick classes will do Halo any good

  • 08.16.2009 7:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: joey1859
Halo has always been its own unique shooter, Bungie isnt going to make it a mundane shooter like the rest.

Halo 1 and 2 were "mundane shooters" as well by your logic because in their day, more FPSes were not based around classes as they are today. But no, the logic is flawed. Halo was unique because it was Halo, even if it had the same gameplay formula (spawn equal, fight over weapons placed on map)... Halo would still be unique even if it has the same gameplay formula as another batch of games (spawn as a class, fight over key points in the map).


Even though many games werent class based Halo CE and Halo 2 were still uniqe, thats why they were both very popular, and now because there are alot of classbased games bungie will definetly not make halo Reach class based, because its uniqe by the standards of today.

  • 08.16.2009 7:35 PM PDT

Posted by: Buzz Killingtin
I just dont thick classes will do Halo any good

This

  • 08.16.2009 7:35 PM PDT

It is what it is.

My real gamertag is Boomerf16.

I just think Halo should keep it's basic kind of gameplay where how well you do depends only on your skill and teamwork. This doesn't make it a completely unique game but it is what makes Halo Halo (that and the story line). Anything else, I think, is subject to change. Bungie can and will make it work. The main problem I have with people saying "Don't make Halo like COD!" is that they say that to any little change anyone suggests or when anyone references another game while talking about Halo. It's fine with me if Bungie incorporates features from other great games.

  • 08.16.2009 7:50 PM PDT
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Classes introduced to a Halo game would shake the structure and sandbox - all maps would have to be very non-linear having very many different areas that have indoor/outdoor areas, varying sightlines, and height levels. Customization in gametypes and arenas would drop somewhat - if you want to create a FFA race gametype, and didn't want any mayhem due to explosion damage, you would have to somehow force everybody to play as a set class.

It wouldn't work with the level of customization offered in Halo 3.

  • 08.16.2009 7:56 PM PDT

Burn in the flame of my passige

well i dont realy like the fact the cod has classes(all because there is like 50 diferrent guns) because it can be unfare one team my be made of people that dont have good wepons and the other team may have uber wepons + halo has like 15-20 wepons in the game. + if halo had classes like cod it would take the fun away halo is a game were both side start with the same wepons in multi-player(not inculding infection). also Bungie would probaly loose a lot of fans because if halo fans dont get halo like its bin in the past they would be pissed...

  • 08.16.2009 8:03 PM PDT

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This is going to be the beginning of all "Don't say 'don't turn Halo into CoD'" threads. hello clone threads.

  • 08.16.2009 9:18 PM PDT

Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
... and all variations, such as "don't turn Halo into Battlefield" or "this is Halo Reach, not Star Wars Battlefront Reach!!!"

It's just poor logic. Seriously.

If adding classes would turn Halo into Call of Duty, then NOT having classes has already made Halo into a Quake/Doom/all other similar, older FPSes clone.

Furthermore, if adding something from another game would turn Halo into that game, wouldn't enough stuff from Halo carrying over (controls, weapon functions, shields, equipment, motion sensors, etc.) wouldn't that make the game into Halo?

I mean, since adding one thing from game A into game B would make game B into game A, wouldn't adding enough stuff from game B into the game A formula (classes/large scale) wouldn't that automatically make that game Halo?


Lol. I think Call of Duty 4 plays like a slightly faster pace Halo seeing how they went with separate buttons for melee and grenades. Not to mention they went with a slower aim sensitivity similar to that found in Halo Combat Evolves default setting.

I really don't see a problem with classes as long as they add a classic style option where I can force people to play as certain character models with weapon settings etc. Even then I can just go back and play Halo 1-3 if they don't add a classic option. It would be nice if they added a classic option though so we could play with better weapon balance settings.

[Edited on 08.16.2009 9:47 PM PDT]

  • 08.16.2009 9:45 PM PDT
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I hope they do turn Halo into CoD. CoD is a much better game than Halo.

  • 08.16.2009 9:47 PM PDT

Posted by: Randy Moss
I hope they do turn Halo into CoD. CoD is a much better game than Halo.


Why because you can actually get a kill in a couple bullets?

  • 08.16.2009 9:48 PM PDT
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I agree and Disagree.

Agree-It is kinda lame to think Halo is some kinda original game. It uses things used in other games all the time. Few of it is original, Yet COD is just as un-original.

Disagree-COD is not that fun. Counter Strike is better. A lot better, pretty much anything Valve makes is better then COD games, G-Mod baby. Anyway back to Halo. Classes would ruin Halo IF it was made as it's default mode. If Classes were an option it would be good....If it was like "Shove this Class #$#$$# in your mouth" it would suck.

  • 08.16.2009 9:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: Randy Moss
I hope they do turn Halo into CoD. CoD is a much better game than Halo.


Why because you can actually get a kill in a couple bullets?

Just because it's more fun to play. If you aren't good at CoD, you get wrecked. If you aren't good at Halo, you can do just fine because the game was designed to be easy for people with less skill. CoD was designed so that the better players come out on top. If you've never played CoD then don't talk like you know what I mean. I've played both games extensively, and CoD is an overall better gaming experience.

  • 08.16.2009 9:53 PM PDT
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If you want skill, Counter Strike, -blam!-, In CS noobs get raped, in COD4 dont, they can win, it's "lol who can shoot faster and get the cheapest perks"

I played my friend in Cod4, he had like months of experience (online) I had ZERO, He only won by like 1 kill or w/e the hell.....Yea, in Halo I whooped his ass without dieing once.

COD4 is not more skilled. It's a ton of automatic guns that take 1-5 hits to kill. It's like playing Halo with no shields and 200% damage.

  • 08.16.2009 10:04 PM PDT

Its a trap!!!

Posted by: Randy Moss
Posted by: disgruntledfan2
Posted by: Randy Moss
I hope they do turn Halo into CoD. CoD is a much better game than Halo.


Why because you can actually get a kill in a couple bullets?

Just because it's more fun to play. If you aren't good at CoD, you get wrecked. If you aren't good at Halo, you can do just fine because the game was designed to be easy for people with less skill. CoD was designed so that the better players come out on top. If you've never played CoD then don't talk like you know what I mean. I've played both games extensively, and CoD is an overall better gaming experience.


Actually i see it the other way around. I went into my first cod game with no experience and came out second place in the match. My first Halo game was a different story. Now I am good at Halo but it took me a lot more dedication then it took COD. COD is about machine guns and basically one hit kills. Any n00b can spam and automatic weapon and see a + number over the guys head. You think halo is easy? If a new person played me now I would probably 15 and 0 them in a 1v1 match. The levels of skilled people on halo have a wide range. In call of duty i dont feel like there is as much wide of range in skill.

As for halo, they have some 1 hit weapons like the shotty but you need to have a consistant aim to win in a Battle rifle fight. I like in Halo that you have to rely more on your analog to aim as opposed to COD relying more on the left trigger to automically put the person in your sights. To add it has cheesy perks like mortardom. You think thats skill when you gun someone down but they get a cheap auto grenade kill when they die?

  • 08.16.2009 10:09 PM PDT
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well my 2 cents

change halo some, why not?

halo 3 is still great online

why not add some changes for Reach and then have halo 3 online and Halo Reach online

2 games, 2 styles

if u prefer Halo 3 without classes etc.... play halo 3
if you would enjoy the idea of classes and new add ons play Halo Reach

its win win people

what i dont get is why not change it?
what do you want?

halo 3 2 or something?

  • 08.16.2009 10:10 PM PDT

what on earth is class based?

  • 08.16.2009 10:12 PM PDT

Its a trap!!!

back to the topic at hand though. I think this is the greatest proposal for the class option

My proposal is that they seperate the class games into a playlist. See how the playlist does. Keep it if it has enough people who play it....

I mean we have the fiesta playlist everynow and then why not class. I like traditional halo better then class system but if i want to change it up for a while I would play the class list.

If not keep it as a custom game option.

In this scenario its a win win for everyone no one can lose anything and people only can gain from it

  • 08.16.2009 10:18 PM PDT

Posted by: Calum57
what on earth is class based?


Seriously? Easiest Way is look up Team Fortress 2.

  • 08.16.2009 10:19 PM PDT

Its a trap!!!

Posted by: Synder Cloud V2
well my 2 cents

change halo some, why not?

halo 3 is still great online

why not add some changes for Reach and then have halo 3 online and Halo Reach online

2 games, 2 styles

if u prefer Halo 3 without classes etc.... play halo 3
if you would enjoy the idea of classes and new add ons play Halo Reach

its win win people

what i dont get is why not change it?
what do you want?

halo 3 2 or something?



I was thinking like you at first but i think with my idea no one could complain

  • 08.16.2009 10:20 PM PDT

Posted by: Randy Moss
Posted by: disgruntledfan2
Posted by: Randy Moss
I hope they do turn Halo into CoD. CoD is a much better game than Halo.


Why because you can actually get a kill in a couple bullets?

Just because it's more fun to play. If you aren't good at CoD, you get wrecked. If you aren't good at Halo, you can do just fine because the game was designed to be easy for people with less skill. CoD was designed so that the better players come out on top. If you've never played CoD then don't talk like you know what I mean. I've played both games extensively, and CoD is an overall better gaming experience.


Say that to my cousin who can't get a single kill in Halo, but loves to spray people in 2 bullets with COD.

  • 08.16.2009 10:35 PM PDT

Its a trap!!!

and honestly I rarley hear people who are good at Halo trash. Usually its the people who are bad at Halo trash it

I think COD is a good game and its fun. But I like Halo a little better and think it takes more skill

  • 08.16.2009 10:49 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

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I want what made Halo special to not be lost in the fabrication of this new installment. That is all I want.

  • 08.16.2009 11:06 PM PDT
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both great fbs but i really think it would ruin the online and campaign if there was classes cuz lik eim used to picking up what i need on the go. but i agree with what the point of this therad stated

  • 08.16.2009 11:09 PM PDT

Don't turn Halo into CoD!

In all seriousness, I roll with this. Mostly with the classes.

To me, having classes would just be un-Halo like. It just wouldn't feel right, you know?

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  • 08.16.2009 11:31 PM PDT

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