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Subject: The Reason Why There Should Be No New Guns in Halo:Reach

Tacos rule!

There is no reason that they can't implement new weapons into Reach. Like others before me have said, Reach was the primary Military Base for the UNSC. All of their weapon designing, prototyping, and field testing would take place somewhere on the surface. They could also use the excuse that many of these weapon designs were destroyed with the glassing. Now, as Reach takes place just prior to Halo CE, these weapons would be destroyed before the Alpha Halo was even discovered. Not to mention that the Pillar of Autumn probably wasn't carrying many of these weapons in the first place. PLUS, even if it was, it is stated in the books that the Spartan's weapon lockers were destroyed. In Halo 2, seeing as In Amber Clad was a comparatively small ship (Miranda wasn't as high ranking as her father), it is doubtful her ship had any prototype weapons either. Halo 3 introduced the laser and the hornet, both of which have been proven to have existed long before the events of Reach. No broken Canon ;)

  • 08.18.2009 10:01 PM PDT

I'm sorry to break this to you all, but Halo Wars is nor canon.

  • 08.18.2009 10:13 PM PDT

Do you really care? you can't automatically see my signature anyway.

Do you have any clue how many didn't models of the same gun or even how many different guns the U.S military has? (this goes for any military) there are a crap load.
The only guns we've used in halo fps are
the BR (the only mid to long range semi auto rifle)
AR. SMG (the only 2 full auto guns)
M6 pistol (the only UNSC magnum we've seen)
there's only one type of shotgun, laser, rocket laucher and sniper, jeez if militaries had this little selection there would be no excuse for a soldier to not be above profiency with every gun.

[Edited on 08.18.2009 10:59 PM PDT]

  • 08.18.2009 10:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: Destroyers414
I'm sorry to break this to you all, but Halo Wars is nor canon.
Yes it is.

  • 08.18.2009 11:06 PM PDT

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It doesn't have to be new, just an altered version. Like ODST has: Silenced SMG, Brute Plasma Rifle (in Halo 2, but brung back in epic graphics.) ODST even has a new pistol. If ODST can do it, so can you! ; )

  • 08.18.2009 11:24 PM PDT
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do you know how many weapons are currently in service with the united states military?


the point is we have seen only a very narrow cross-section of the weaponry used by either faction in the halo universe

I'm not saying there should be new weapons, just that there very easily could be

the UNSC is in shambles, and issuing weapons would be extremely difficult across all of it's colonies simultaneously, we could see either outdated or even more advanced weaponry because of this.

  • 08.18.2009 11:44 PM PDT

I hope you get lupus

Posted by: Jedi 4
Here's a small and simple reason why what the title says^


It would be stupid to make new guns in Reach, why? They have never appeared ever in any story of Halo through the books or games, now don't you think it would be stupid for them to appear at that timeline, yet not appearing ever again?

look dude just because your not smart enough to figure out how it is possible does not mean it is impossible. several people have already given several reason why there could be new weapons in Reach. Halo wars is canon except for things that are contradictory to previous halo games or books and we have not seen many weapons or vehicles in other games.

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  • 08.18.2009 11:50 PM PDT
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Why not? Halo was still in the making as the video games where coming out.... plus, pistols with 3 shots to kill would be pretty dumb in my opinion.

  • 08.18.2009 11:51 PM PDT
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Just because the Assault rifle was in halo 1 and not in Halo 2 doesn't mean it magically got erased from the face of the Earth.

Just because we couldn't dual wield in Halo 1 and could in Halo 2 doesn't mean it wasn't possible.

We don't know everything about the Halo Universe. You don't. I don't. The folks at Bungie probably don't too.

  • 08.19.2009 1:20 AM PDT

La Vie Boheme

Posted by: dr spartan32
Posted by: Jedi 4
Posted by: KooIKidKarl2k8
They could introduce new (prototype) weapondry that was destroyed in Reaches plasma bombing.


Exactly, I mean not too ridiculious like a brand new completely different weapon. Because that would be stupid.

You mean like how they implanted the BR55 and the M7 in Halo 2, and how they implanted the Spartan Laser in Halo 3, even though it had never been mentioned in previous canon? New weapons can be retconned in easily in Reach. Halo Wars is considered canon, and there's loads of vehicles which has never appeared anywhere else.

Just because John never encountered [insert new weapon in reach] in Halo 1,2 or 3, doesn't meen it never existed.

And there's plenty of already existing weapons in Halo lore which hasn't appeared in the Halo games, like the M99 Stanchion, the confetti maker, HMG-38 etc.

He's right. For example, in Halo Wars your Spartans can have Spartan Lasers even though it took place many years before Halo 3, and it is still considered to hold accurate to the storyline.

Plus there could just be different varieties of the same weapons. Just like how Halo 3: ODST won't have a BR, but will have a silenced SMG. You had a BR at that point in the storyline, and you didn't have the silenced SMG, but that doesn't mean they didn't exist because you didn't shoot them in that one particular game.

  • 08.19.2009 1:22 AM PDT
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my gt is Godzillla....i just didnt link it properly

look at odst

a silenced smg variant was never mentioned in the books , and the books go into great detail describing the weapons


canon isnt bigger than bungie, bungie makes canon so because its a new game they'll add new stuff

  • 08.19.2009 1:53 AM PDT
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Just give me a couple of bullets and tons of hope

why cant they have proper weapons, think about it, they live in a ship as Pillar of Autumn, really really enourmous ship, I guess there is a mini factory of weapons there, the ship is kilometres and kilometres long, and its used for conquer planets (colonies), thousands of marines, thousands of vehicles, they must have an Ammo factory and gun factory (mini), the spend years and years in space, they need to make mora and mora weapons so I guess that they could make special weapons o "new weapons" or just an actual weapon Improved

  • 08.19.2009 3:24 AM PDT

I really don't get people like you that don't like good things.. why the hell would you not want new weapons? For the sake of canon? Okay, the Auto-Mag is in ODST, but were is it in Halo 3? Oh no! The Halo CE Assault Rifle was in Halo CE, but were is it in Halo 2? Oh no! The Gauss warthog was in Contact Harvest, but were is it in Halo CE?!?! OH NO!

I can keep going on and on, but I think you get it; the same can be said for vehicles, and enemies too. It's a prequel, who cares, new weapons will be implemented, along with new vehicles (and hopefully enemies?)-- I don't know why somebody wouldn't want all of that!

I care about the canon just as much as anybody else (I've read all the novels, graphic novels... everything), but there is always room for new things!


All in all, this is a "what is this I don't even-" thread.

  • 08.19.2009 4:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: GuiltySpark569
I really don't get people like you that don't like good things.. why the hell would you not want new weapons? For the sake of canon? Okay, the Auto-Mag is in ODST, but were is it in Halo 3? Oh no! The Halo CE Assault Rifle was in Halo CE, but were is it in Halo 2? Oh no! The Gauss warthog was in Contact Harvest, but were is it in Halo CE?!?! OH NO!

I can keep going on and on, but I think you get it; the same can be said for vehicles, and enemies too. It's a prequel, who cares, new weapons will be implemented, along with new vehicles (and hopefully enemies?)-- I don't know why somebody wouldn't want all of that!

I care about the canon just as much as anybody else (I've read all the novels, graphic novels... everything), but there is always room for new things!


All in all, this is a "what is this I don't even-" thread.


Some people want to keep playing the same game for years. Just with new maps.

I don't know why though. . .

  • 08.19.2009 4:54 AM PDT

Still waiting for my steak Luke... Still waiting...

I don't see why there can't be some crazy top secret weapons hidden in ONI on Reach.

  • 08.19.2009 5:03 AM PDT

we just wanna kick ass and leave a footprint

Guys, it would be stupid to add new weapons and vehicles in halo 2, I mean wtf guize its not canon.

See what I did there OP?

  • 08.19.2009 5:06 AM PDT

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you could add all the cononical weapons, such as the carbine (human), the gauss sniper, etc

  • 08.19.2009 5:10 AM PDT

Still waiting for my steak Luke... Still waiting...

Posted by: Welsh Mullet
you could add all the cononical weapons, such as the carbine (human), the gauss sniper, etc


Or better yet they should use present day fully preserved m4 carbines...0.0

  • 08.19.2009 5:19 AM PDT

Underwater Eagle.

Posted by: repic zuzary
reach is about a day before the Halo: CE started.

It actually took the Pillar of Autumn 14 months to arrive at the first Halo ring.

  • 08.19.2009 6:00 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ryan 2147
Reach is a prototype weapon testing facility and the training ground for the Spartans, and the Spartans are basically a weapon.

hmmm your right there, i didn't think about that...*facepalm*

  • 08.19.2009 6:10 AM PDT

YOu could have the combat knife
it looks like 1 spartan in the banner has one

  • 08.19.2009 6:36 AM PDT

Who cares about the canon, I want a fun game. New guns=fun

  • 08.19.2009 6:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: peppermagik
Who cares about the canon, I want a fun game. New guns=fun



THE GAMES ARE CANON.


if there is new weaponry in reach it will become a hard fact in the halo universe, simple as that, and several people have already explained how weaponry could be added within the current canon.

  • 08.19.2009 10:27 AM PDT

wasn't the missle pod new? as in new to the games and books?

  • 08.19.2009 10:33 AM PDT

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